Maya and the Prophecies - Page 4

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

I don't think anybody's burning her in the show. 🤔
Idk if this comment is targeted at me or in general but if it is at me I have never exactly believed or endorsed the whole pandit thing. I do judge Maya. I judge every single character in the show. So do you. So does everyone else. We are supposed to do that. In a constructive, healthy manner. I'm bound to also blame a character for something I strongly feel they've done wrong.
Also again the whole social stigma with the word 'psychiatrist' what is wrong with going to a psychiatrist? You do know that you're using it like it's a gaali? That people who go to psychiatrists or such hospitals are somehow wrong or vile? Have you ever visited one? Because I have. And there's NOTHING wrong about mental hospitals that look after a patient's well-being.
I don't think Maya needs one though. She needs constant psychotherapy. And it's a medical term. She needs help. That is again for her psychotic episodes--she's mentally disturbed. She lives in constant fear. She does things in her extremities.

My topic was about how such superstitions are validated by this show. Not about what fate Maya deserves.

Originally posted by: Laska

There is a difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist. A huge difference. Out of psychiatric clinics, healthy people don't go out. Never. If a person wasn't mad and gets into such a clinic, then he will become mad. And you say that Maya needs treatment. Do you think for what you are ready to doom a person? Do you know what restraint jacket is? How does the treatment by electrocution lead to? What happens in general with people in such clinics?

If you judge all equally. And not so, that here Arjun's mistakes can be forgiven and let him go free with a clear conscience. And Maya's mistakes can't be forgiven. They need only be treated in a psychiatric clinic. Or in prison. Or only in the another world, she can receive redemption

Originally posted by: sumz_d

No I am in no way justifying toxic relationship. But my point is the situation that ArYa are facing is due to both of them being at fault. Arjun is no saint either. Both are wrong in their parts.

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

I have served as an intern in a psychiatry department and sought medical help from a psychologist which means I'm in a better position to understand these terms. Your comment is very ignorant and I really suggest you look up into psychiatry vs psychology.
The main difference between them is simply that one is a hard science and the other is a soft science. Which means that if you go to a psychiatrist for let's say hallucinations, depression, any of the mental problems, a psychiatrist will most seek to treat it medically with medicines and other scientific methods.
Wheras a psychologist will seek to help you through therapy sessions. They both interwine and exchange a lot.
Your comment on what a psychiatrist's domain or a mental hospital is very archaic and based on pop culture references. It reeks of what you've seen on tv shows and movies. Maya will not be electrocuted if she choses to go to a psychiatrist. Man you need to read up on the subject.😆
Maya obviously suffers from a mental disorder. Why is it so wrong or blasphemous to accept that people can suffer from mental disorders? It is because of comments and views like you that suggest that asylums and even psychiatry or mental problems are some sort of extreme thing or something. Do you see the social stigma surrounding such things? That people are so afraid of seeking help because they think people around them will talk and make fun of them?
A mental ward is mainly for patients who choose to stay in or need extensive monitoring. They're are also all kinds of centres where more privileged people chose to stay for just a few weeks or otherwise to 'detox' in a mental kind of lingo.

Arjun obviously has issues but he definitely doesn't suffer from the kind of problems Maya does so I don't see why he should get the same treatment as her?

Originally posted by: Laska

You have not seen all the psychiatric clinics to easily send people with problems there. Psychiatric clinic, this isn't a walk through the clouds

No, you are handpicking a single few and generalizing them. Most psychiatric procedures are nothing like what you're talking about. You're talking about the anomalies not the real ones. Why should we even assume Maya will be sent--or go to one? And nothing is exactly a walk through the clouds, but does it mean it shouldn't be done?

The same thing is done by some people sending children to schools for difficult teenagers, and not all of these institutions lead to the result that would be desirable

There are gaps--problems--in the systems. Not all foster homes are good. Not all schools are great. It's a system fault. Govermental fault. But the ones which are proper far exceed the exceptions. What do you suggest? We don't send children to such schools or adults to such institutions based on social stigma and fear? Again you're feeding into the social stigma of this. There's nothing wrong with these institutions.

There is nothing wrong with recognizing existing problems. It's bad to judge people without knowing their entire history. It's bad to send people out where they don't need to be. You need to think a million times before treating a person, and from what to treat person and how to treat

This can cause much more harm than good

I don't have to know a person's entire history to know whether a person needs help or not. Does knowing whether a person's a patholigical liar, or an abuser, or let's say a normal innocent victim affect their current mental health or the fact that they do need help? I don't know what you're suggesting? In fact we need to encourage mental health protection. We need to encourage the welfare of our minds as we do for our bodies. We need to spread awareness of mental problems, diseases and in fact eradicate the social stigma surrounding these. This has progressed so much better in the west than here. You're talking as if it's a problem--a blasphemy. It's this kind of attitude that elevates the problem. Bottomline is you need to treat the person. and not us the doctors. What do you suggest? They go without treatment until they keep worsening?

Why does Arjun's problem need no such treatment? He can become a tyrant who beats his wife. He is already on this path. Before he painfully grabbed Vandana, Dusky and now Maya

He doesn't need to learn to control his anger in a psychiatric clinic and not cause harm to surrounding people?

Vandana doesn't need to be treated in a psychiatric clinic because of her obsessed with poor prediction? Does Dusky not need to treat the control of her righteous anger that leads her to rummage in other people's things or to push a person off the ladder?

Let me get this straight. So let's say a person suffers from depression. Another from ADHD, another just from a gastric problem and another from what you call the meddling syndrome.
So basically all of them should receive the same treatment? Your words just flew over my head. Why on earth would Arjun need the kind of treatment Maya needs? He has DIFFERENT ISSUES. She has different issues. Do you understand the difference between bhavioral issues and mental issues? She probably suffers from a psychotic disorder of some kind. Why would we treat Arjun for that if he doesn't suffer from it? And why would we even think of treating Saanjh for a psychotic disorder or other of such kinds? Just because you've a bone to pick with them? Saanjh needs a good rattling and somebody to tell her to respect herself. Arjun definitely needs therapy after the three years. But how are they all deserving of the same treatment?😕

Originally posted by: Lilac_N_Maple

^^ will you sit at home and try to treat yourself by only good food if you have malaria? No right? You will see a doctor asap. Same should be done with mental illness. One can't treat it with love and care. Jhanvi's love didn't improve her, nor will Arjun's.
I am sorry but you are glorifying the stigma against mental illness. She doesn't need electrocution or anything. She is not bat shit crazy as of yet - but if she's not treated medically, she will be.

Originally posted by: sindu_gurti

I hate that part and when vandana shouted with her shrieking voice that Maya is upshagun...I didn't like it at all rida...my heart really felt how Maya if was real would have felt,she would have died thousand times in herself..Maya is ill,mentally sick., she is Luke a boat which got stranded in an island because the sailors failed to drive it in a right direction...she is not evil, but just sick...but I was 100% sure and even mentioned in shruti's post that cc's will try to prove vandana and her fears are correct and they did so!!! What to say rida!!!

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

No, you are handpicking a single few and generalizing them. Most psychiatric procedures are nothing like what you're talking about. You're talking about the anomalies not the real ones. Why should we even assume Maya will be sent--or go to one? And nothing is exactly a walk through the clouds, but does it mean it shouldn't be done?

There are gaps--problems--in the systems. Not all foster homes are good. Not all schools are great. It's a system fault. Govermental fault. But the ones which are proper far exceed the exceptions. What do you suggest? We don't send children to such schools or adults to such institutions based on social stigma and fear? Again you're feeding into the social stigma of this. There's nothing wrong with these institutions.

I don't have to know a person's entire history to know whether a person needs help or not. Does knowing whether a person's a patholigical liar, or an abuser, or let's say a normal innocent victim affect their current mental health or the fact that they do need help? I don't know what you're suggesting? In fact we need to encourage mental health protection. We need to encourage the welfare of our minds as we do for our bodies. We need to spread awareness of mental problems, diseases and in fact eradicate the social stigma surrounding these. This has progressed so much better in the west than here. You're talking as if it's a problem--a blasphemy. It's this kind of attitude that elevates the problem. Bottomline is you need to treat the person. and not us the doctors. What do you suggest? They go without treatment until they keep worsening?

Let me get this straight. So let's say a person suffers from depression. Another from ADHD, another just from a gastric problem and another from what you call the meddling syndrome.
So basically all of them should receive the same treatment? Your words just flew over my head. Why on earth would Arjun need the kind of treatment Maya needs? He has DIFFERENT ISSUES. She has different issues. Do you understand the difference between bhavioral issues and mental issues? She probably suffers from a psychotic disorder of some kind. Why would we treat Arjun for that if he doesn't suffer from it? And why would we even think of treating Saanjh for a psychotic disorder or other of such kinds? Just because you've a bone to pick with them? Saanjh needs a good rattling and somebody to tell her to respect herself. Arjun definitely needs therapy after the three years. But how are they all deserving of the same treatment?😕