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Posted: 8 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh

Viji..lovely review😊

and Half Empty Fanta Bottle😆..good one..

just saw the Ishra scene ..

so according to Mr RKB it is Ishu's actions that have elicited such extreme reaction from him..great👏 got reminded of Newtons Law..
but reactions where you drive your wife to suicide?..does he even remember it..all forgotten ..wow
so Iam to understand that for all his vicious and abusive behaviour the other person has to be at fault..
so all the slaps that he gave Adi.humiliated him in public ,threw Mihir out at the insistence of His sister Rinky..and ofcourse all the abuses hurled at Ishu..are all because they deserved it ?that what I am getting to understand.from Mr RKB dialogues..

btw who is the dialogue writer ..she/he needs to be sued for such trashy dialogue

And ishu well what do I say ..

as mentioned by me earlier she has lost a golden opportunity to put forth her emotional upheaval in front of Raman ..In fact the premise in which the whole situation played out was itself wrong ..it started with Taking the kids ..wrong decision..it should have been between husband and wife...
so I still maintain I am disappointed with Ishu as a woman.
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she and she herself is responsible for letting Raman walk all over her ..

and Raman well he is in denial ..all his apologies have no meaning to me as a viewer but seems like It has started to mean something to Ishu..so who am I to complain ..

"MIya Biwi Raazi Toh kya Karega Kazi"

anyways my views dont matter to the cvs... but yes I rue the loss of a beautiful track..




Hi Sumi,

Newton Law😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Diya.mukherjee

Nice review viji. I saw the epi. Ishra scene was cute . but yes they are not going deep into this matter. Though the first two epi of this track were really good .but they need to keep the comedy thing in the track in order to engage trp audience .apart from ishra loved romika scene. Though raman is apologizing nd makinf efforts .that's really cute , byr still he hasn't understood the main thing. Nd I have no further expectations from him in this regard . but hope he never repeats his previous mistake . though I like emotional nd meaning full epis ,I equally love funny cute nd light hearted ones . so the epi was fine to me. Anyway when is miss gulabo coming !?


Hi Diya,

CV cannot write a track without making either one of IshRa do mistakes or stupid things but the only expectation I am hoping is if at all a problem comes they should stop Raman from uttering callous words to IShita ,questioning Ishita on her motherhood and snapping of their relationship in a heartbeat.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Lacustris

"Too much of anything is bad".

With that I will start my rants for today.

To CVS: While your too much love for Shagun is understandable but as a viewer the way we were promised a story from a unique concept of three broken souls coming together as a family that heal each other is totally lost so is my connect to this story. As I didn't sign up for this crappy story of an adulteress, selfish and narcissist and a criminal woman who is nothing but a bio hazard for the story I refuse to sit and take it. Only TRPs will save this torture for the sensible viewers. So keep digging and good luck. You definitely need it.

Adi's embarrassment of Shagun being pregnant when he is ready to get married is perfectly understandable. So I can see this as CVS justification for not giving Ishita pregnancy track or to show the difference where she may feel embarrassed if she becomes pregnant thinking about Adi being at a marriage age? also now that we saw how Adi reacted to Shagun's pregnancy are we going to see a different reaction from Adi if it's Ishita?

And I honestly failed to understand them all distributing sweets and celebrating Shagun pregnancy as if it's a miracle. Although it's funny how she is very fertile every 7/8 years and that explains why she couldn't make Ashok a Papa...

And as I can see the Bhallas never learn their lessons, why do I feel that Ruhi may be hiding something. But then again I didn't watch so I could be wrong.

Raman apologizing to Ishita for whatever he did is wrong and he is sorry didn't cut it for me. When one is apologizing it has to be from the realization of what he did wrong. And his apology sounds like a selfish one as he couldn't live without her. "Selfish apologies aren't apologies" and him blaming her you create the situation and I take it to extreme is totally showing Raman as insensitive and selfish person. So he knows he said something extreme to her but he is not genuinely ashamed or guilty or anything. Throw a sorry at her face because if there is no realization behind it it's just a five letter word and tell her he loves her and can't live without her and she will come running to take the next verbal assault from him.

So other side Romi and Mihika feel the emptiness of missing or not having a child in their life? I wonder who will be the "Vicky the donor" here??? Or are the CVS trying to show if you love a person genuinely having a child or not doesn't make a difference. If that is the case I applaud them. Then that makes Mihika love for Romi is pure and genuine and Raman's love for Ishita is nothing but selfish even after having two kids he cheated her with surrogacy without considering her feelings?

Once again oldies proved that they are very selfish and self-centered as they care about their happiness only but expected Ishita to bend backwards to keep the family happy... very nice.

Simmi and her marriage makes no sense. not that she shouldn't settle but I am failing to see what Simmi wants from her life and why Gaurav is after her as he doesn't come across as a genuine person.

Precap is once again to reiterate the fact that Bhallas are once again selfish and they care nothing about anyone irrespective of how much that person sacrifice for them. The "Me syndrome" is thickly coated in their DNA especially in Toshiji and Raman.

Nice Review Viji!! Once again I appreciate you are doing this. You are such a sweetheart!!


Hi Raji,

Loved your analysis today too especially who is going to be vicky donor😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: swa6

Viji

Liked the episode... again you may find me weird for some thing I m gonna talk😉 lol

- So puttar tried to kidnap teacher... but instead of teacher, Principal came out of sack...that too of age 60s n is bp-sugar-heart patient😆

- He tried to convince Ishu...and she started melting, after all as we all(even RKB) know she is the one who loves him more than he loves her😆

I still didn't give up on the track that address their (her) issues...Shoot me wt a gun, but I m still optimistic 😳

- The ishRa scene is very cute, only if we don't know the magnitude of her hurt!

- Shagun's pregnancy news is out and everyone is happy for that(except Adi)... I knew no other kid didn't suffer because of her more than Adi...yet I really really find those words harsh n insulting n those shouldn't be coming from a "Son"..No matter what, she is his mother and I don't like someone insult their own mother like this...(about husbands n then pregnancy). He should have been more sensible! (I hope he would understand once Ishitha makes him understand)...
- Why, is it a crime to get pregnancy in the age of 40s?! I don't think so! As it is shagun we are not good with this, otherwise it would be a biggest happiest news for anyone else..
After all its Mani's life too n Mani's baby too!

- Then I can see Ishitha is genuinely very happy for shagun...All I understood is, as she doesn't have this capability, she knows its value than anyone else! (Along with it, as shagun has overdose of the same, she doesnt know its value). Especially when it is shagun (the one who gave her three kids), she is extra happy like if it is her own sister's pregnancy...She loves pampering, taking care of preggies...
She is happy seeing Shagun n I m happy seeing her😆 lol😆

- Something fishy is up wt her pregnancy this time yar! I seriously doubt iron coating is gone at pihu's time😉

- Romi Mihika...today it is a mature talk... But I don't anymore believe in Bhalla Khandaan's maturity levels... Pakka it will be a special track😉 with another conspired baby...😆

- Simmu-Gaurav-Parents : He is one piece of shit who just wants to sit in Bhalla's life...Dont know this time, if Raman's grand grand ma promised his grand grand dad that she will get Raman married to his sister, n bcz of Shagun they need to cancel that match n if his Grand Grand dad committed suicide not able to take it!!😲)

He seems to be in some plan...Param ji.. Jaldi aavona n crack this puzzle plz😉 before our Jagga Jasoos starts doing jasoosi n before another big fight between Ishra bcz this!!

- Toshi!?😡 Why so desperate?! Its like when we have soo much of dump at home, we will look for dustbins n dump it as soon as we find one!!!
Is it like simmu is burden or that she wouldn't get any matches?!
Why sooo desperate, cheap! I hate her!!🤬

- I liked Bhallaji today...liked his line too...I did leave the house but not family!

- Toshi n Amma are love sick puppies of today's episode...so despo to go n talk to their hubbies.. (however it would be cute again if we dont know ishu's hurt's mag...thats what i could say)

And the reason is "Shagun's pregnancy"...he he🤣 Mummyji & Amma ji...Ishu will forget what ever bad happened to her bz of Shagun, but what about you?! Atleast Amma, are you real mom of Ishu, or simply brought her up?


Precap: How I wish that I can make that pain true by punching her on left n rgt cheeks😡 Already pumpkin lagthi hain, phir hybrid pumpkin jaise dikhegi😆

(Did I miss anything?)


Hi Swarna,

😆 This is what I did reading your review😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi Maya..wonderful comment..boy you covered yesterday's and today's episodes.
@ purple...your comment on Raman...interesting.,I never thought of that...so you are saying he's aware a but knows how to make her melt and make her feel guilty..you know what you maybe right..cuz he always kept saying,,she loves me more than I love her...she doesn't say it..but she loves me a lot..wow Maya.
About ishita's pregnancy..lol you covered every loop hole,,,...😆😉
I liked all your 10 points ..but your comment in ishuta being the gulabo..makes sense...it could be possible..and shagun baby creating a havoc...i don't know...
And what do you think ruhi is hiding..yes it was bizarre to see her sitting inside the car ...even Raji said the same thing..now I'm wondering what did I miss?!


Hi Viji,


When you love a person you know their strength as well as weakness sometimes we use those weakness to hurt the person we love and then feel guilty for it but then our mind blocks it saying we did this only because they pushed me without any option that is what Raman is doing. Yeah he knows what words will hurt her when he wants to hurt her but when everything is well his mind blocks it out saying that because of her mistake only I did I have no other option. I did not do it willingly.

Yeah I wanted to cover all aspects since we wanted Ishita pregnancy they gave 2 episodes for it and then showed her miscarriage then showed Shagun pregnancy so I wanted to be clear I expect Ishita to carry the kid and deliver it😆

Ruhi its just a feeling based on her sitting in the car. If she was worried about her parents only she should be sitting in a room or a bench in the compound no one goes gets into a car to sit and think. I felt like she came from somewhere in the car and was worried about it when Adi came she switched it to their parents.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: swa6


Waw Maya...your compliment is special to me😳
and I liked your review...no loved it😊

And about Pihu... its because her recent health issues...trauma of witnessing murder, getting afraid of fighting(Even when MrBhalla n Raman were fighting also, she was afraid)...worried about her parent's separation...especially her fear of blood since that night... probably because of these? I thought so...otherwise why would she get afraid of Drunk Raman as this is what she has seen since she born...(upto 7 years)


Hi Swarna,

You might be right about Pihu but the trouble is I can never connect to her character because she being a surrogate baby, over attachment to Shagun, disregard for Raman love and ruthless behavior towards Ishita.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: mayasun

Hi Viji,

Sorry Viij and Swarna - I did not see yesterday episode till today so could not say what stood out for me in yesterday episode I will try to write about both days today.

Note: I am going to be little busy till May so I won't be able to write reviews as usual most of the days but will try to comment on what stood for me if I get time.

Coming to Yesterday episode

What the hell Raman was wearing yesterday. He is dressing up like typical teenagers showing biceps and tight shirt. I never liked this dress style but thought since it is a soap they should get leeway so I never mentioned it but I kind of lost it yesterday for god sake he was going to get a business men award he should be dressed appropriately at least for the function instead of dressing like a man who is in mid-life crisis. KP should seriously consider who he is keeping as his fashion designer.

Who the hell goes to a function where you are honored stone drunk. 😡 (Raman should stop drinking that is the not the solution to all problems) He hits a car and gets into a fight the men ask him to apologize and he taunts them saying have you met my wife(This was uncalled for there was no need to bring Ishita into his roadside brawl and if CV thought this would be a funny scene they failed it big time because it was just another insult to his wife) Ishita is shocked when she sees Raman fighting she immediately sends Ruhi to bring Romi, Adi and Bhallaji to stop the fight(I thought this was a correct decision instead of going in between a group of men fighting with her stone drunk husband in which many things could have gone wrong for herself if she interfered she chose the best option she had to call the men of her house to break up the fight) Ishita keeps Pihu (Which is a wrong decision on my part she should have sent Pihu also with Ruhi) Pihu tries to stop the fight and gets hurt in the process the fight is stopped by Bhallaji,Adi and Romi.

Pihu - I never connected with this kid and never could understand her reaction. I was not sure why she was afraid of Raman when he came to met her. If she is afraid of Raman fighting then why did she interfere to stop the fight why was she not afraid at that time. If it was not about fighting then why was she afraid of Raman because I thought she was glued to Raman after the Australia trip. Total confusion for me with this character.

Ishita/Raman - The water pouring could have been avoided it was so distasteful for me. I agree you need to pour water on a person who is stone drunk for him to come back to his sense but the same confrontation could have been done when he was sober. Ishita was right in telling that Alcohol is not the answer for stress.

Pihu fever - Raman comes to meet Pihu but she gets afraid of him (I don't know why) but then family seeing Pihu reaction asks Raman to go mildly at first and then forcefully. This was a direct rehash of hospital scene where Raman stripped Ishita of being a mother for Pihu the second time. He sits outside the door crying. (This scene would have had a greater impact if they had given a FB scene of Raman remembering this is what he did with Ishita from there they could have explored him realizing the hurt of Ishita for the first time but alas they left that opportunity)

Mihika/Romi scene was cute both were missing each other but Mihika blames Ishita for breaking the family apart.

Simmi/Param/Gaurav - All bhallas have the same problem they take decision in anger and suffer the consequences later. Simmi was angry with Param, Gaurav instigated her and she fell in his trap in her anger against Param and accepted his proposal.

Mani/Shagun - They are the new IshRa are they are staying together for a kid and slowly we will see their love developing only difference here is since it is Shagun it is a biological child not a borrowed child.

Coming to today episode


Raman mistakenly kidnaps Shagun in place of Ishita and when he opens the blanket Shagun faints because she was suffocationg for 20 -30 sec under a blanket. What nonsense 😡 Ishita and Raman are happy (There might be two reason for it

1. Shagun got another bakra to play her favorite custody game so she might leave the bhalla kids alone

2. Ishita genuinely might be happy for her best friend becoming a dad for real) The whole family knows about her pregnancy and everyone is happy. Adi is not happy as he is thinking about being a elder brother when he is an adult. (I guess this is the answer they are going to give for not giving Ishita pregnancy that Adi is an adult and he is going to feel embarrassed for this but if that is the case let me tell you CV make Ishita pregnant after sorting out IshRa issue you don't even have to ask for TRP we fans would rain TRP on you. Oh NO Let me make it clear so that you don't misunderstand Ishita pregnant means not through proxy but Ishita actually carries the baby for full 9 months and delivers the baby. Raman pampering her that is when you will be rained with TRP)

Neelu - The elder ladies wants to share the news with her husband so they try to say Neelu is lazy. Neelu gives back to them If you wish to see your husband go see for that don't call me lazy. Way to go Neelu👏 The elders are blushing as their lie has been caught.

Ruhi/Adi - Ruhi is feeling guilty and Adi was consoling her that was such a nice scene.

Gaurav/Simmi - Simmi says to him that this not the right time. Gaurav monologue states that the game is at the right time and he needs to get married to Simmi at any cost at this time so he takes the Shagun to Bhalla house Toshjii is immediately happy and wants to accept it but Bhallaji is more sensible he says that if that is the case Simmi would have told us Toshjii keeps harping about Simmi life Bhallaji shuts her up saying this is not serial this is Simmi life and he would need to ask Simmi he just has left the house for principal but still he is the head of the house. Simmi comes there and is upset with Gaurav and asks him to go and she is embarrassed with the family but Bhallaji assure her that she can take any decision. (My guess since the time we have seen Gaurav he has been wearing full sleeve so what if he is related to Nidhi hiding his tatato. Today his monologue confirmed that he doesn't love Simmi but he needs Simmi for a purpose in life and he needs to get married to her in a particular time frame. )

Mihika/Romi - A matured conversation between these two. I cannot believe this is the same Romi who was wild he has matured with age. Mihika also understood his pain and supported him as a wife the scene was nicely done. (I have one question though if Mihika can understand Romi pain then how come she is unable to understand Ishita whom she saw crying buckets for her inability to conceive)

Ishita/Raman - Raman goes behind her to talk but Ishita is avoiding him finally he gives a promise on Pihu and she stops to listen. Raman tells her that he is sorry for whatever he did but it was not his mistake but she pushes to him to the extreme. Ishita is not giving him finally he says okay its all my mistake I won't repeat it come back home I cannot live without you. I promise I won't do this again. (Couple of days I thought Raman never even realized the hurt he is giving to her but I realized in this conversation today Raman exactly knows what he did to her. He also know how to get around her hurt giving him a clean state by making her feel guilty for her actions since the mistake was done by her in the first place now that he is successful in making her feel guilty we will see Ishita melting towards him without any talk between these two)

Neelu comes and calls Raman but he refuses to come then Ishita asks the person to bring him to the house as soon as the person walks in Raman gets hyper and takes him out. He has asked to put a flyer promoting Ishita job. Ishita is impressed and tells him that he did not even put correct qualifications for her. Raman is thinking this plan also flopped.

Precap: Stage is being set for Raman breaking his promise throwing Ishita out of the house due to Simmi marriage fiasco.

Things stood out in the episodes fore me.

1. Raman loves Ishita but its conditional as long as everything is fine he is okay with her.

2. Ishita loves Raman but cannot take a stand for herself as she is always guilty of one thing or the other.

3. Toshjii needs Ishita to make Simmi agree to this marriage so she is doing drama.

4. Since Ishita is back in Bhalla house and now cannot go back to Iyers house to make her stand after she finds out about Toshjii fake illness so she is going go to Shagun house(This is my guess base on the segments as both the segments Ishita was wearing the same pink sari)

5. Simmi life is once again going to be in a mess because of Toshjii and Ishita will be blamed for it.

6. I loved Bhallaji today. He was correct regarding Simmi state of mind and he clearly told marriage is not a solution to all the problems.

7. Garav is related to Nidhi.

8. Ruhi is back to hiding something.

9. Shagun baby is going to create havoc in IshRa life once again.

10. Gulbso looks like Ishita to me now. Mani is being blackmailed, Ishita is going to Mani house, Nidhi is going to be out with Mani help so she might plan to kill Isitha in the process Ishita might lose her memory and become Gulbso. This whole Ishita walking out track the one thing which was constant is Raman telling that Ishita loves him more and he cannot stay to be separated for him so if she loses her memory than she would forget that she loved Raman then wooing of her starts.


Sorry everyone - I know I am all over the place today but wanted to tell what I thought about today episodes, coming episodes and segment since I am not sure whether I would get time to do reviews till May.





Maya loved your take on both episodes..
So you also think that Ruhi is up to no good.. the way Viji wrote when Adi questioned her regarding N&S and the way she brushed and turned the focus to her parents and her being the reason for their separation and her guilt didn't fool me.. since I didn't watch i could be missing the nuances but the tactic she used is the escapist tactic...hope just like her Daadi she is not seeing another stage for her mother to be blamed once again..
The dialog Raman said you push me to extreme made me realize he knows his extreme anger issues and how he dumps all on Ishita.but hadn't realized the amount of crap he dumps on her.. But if you think he is aware of the extent of the hurt he caused her but refused to acknowledge it and not only that by him making it light don't you think it puts Raman in a bad light? He knows he abused her and still not taking the responsibility to it and still blaming her even for that behavior and making it very insensitive by focusing only on his pain of missing her..makes him inhuman/beast in one word.
All your points are valid.. i don't trust gaurav as I haven't watched any of his interaction with Simmi other than him calling her when ishita walked out... But he is not giving any positive vibes...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun


Hi Viji,


When you love a person you know their strength as well as weakness sometimes we use those weakness to hurt the person we love and then feel guilty for it but then our mind blocks it saying we did this only because they pushed me without any option that is what Raman is doing. Yeah he knows what words will hurt her when he wants to hurt her but when everything is well his mind blocks it out saying that because of her mistake only I did I have no other option. I did not do it willingly.

Yeah I wanted to cover all aspects since we wanted Ishita pregnancy they gave 2 episodes for it and then showed her miscarriage then showed Shagun pregnancy so I wanted to be clear I expect Ishita to carry the kid and deliver it😆

Ruhi its just a feeling based on her sitting in the car. If she was worried about her parents only she should be sitting in a room or a bench in the compound no one goes gets into a car to sit and think. I felt like she came from somewhere in the car and was worried about it when Adi came she switched it to their parents.


So in simple terms ..he's blocked it as per convenience.!.?..that's even worse...to me
Did you add a happy healthy baby..born..alive...we don't want any mishandling there...!
Mmm ..ruhi...makes sense..but can she drive at 17?! In India...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun


Hi Diya,

CV cannot write a track without making either one of IshRa do mistakes or stupid things but the only expectation I am hoping is if at all a problem comes they should stop Raman from uttering callous words to IShita ,questioning Ishita on her motherhood and snapping of their relationship in a heartbeat.

yes its high time . I really hope raman sticks to his words this time. The CVS r trying hard to show raman guilty but still missing the main point. I don't think they think so deep,like us whenever they write any scene or dialogue .so u have stopped taking the tracks nd show too seriously . btw lovely revw Maya Di. Totally agree with u. But the precape was well confused me .so I will comment on it post tmrws episode
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun


Hi Raji,

Loved your analysis today too especially who is going to be vicky donor😆

Thank you Maya... Have no stomach to watch another surrogacy as they really violated the rights of a mother and the way they handled it makes me so angry..I rather prefer adoption to surrogacy...no need to spread those vile genes anymore..I would've loved to see Ishita adopting that baby that Saarika pretended to give birth to..atleast that child would've gotten a loving mother...

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