WHO AND WHAT IS ISHITA? AND EXPECTATIONS...2/6/17

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Posted: 8 years ago
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A tie between the titles...choose what you see fit...

At the iyers
So raman brings shagun to the bedroom thinking it's ishita and our shagun fainted due to lack of air ?!.😲.. she survived the worst in her previous pregnancy..she couldn't survive less than 30sec walk to the bedroom?!...anyways..
Raman lifts the quilt, he's shocked to see shagun ..he apologizes to her for the mistake in identity..she faints..

At the parking lot
Adi sees ruhi in ishu's car...and they talk about sohail and Nidhi ..and wonders if they are trying to contact her but ruhi brushed it aside and says she's worried for the family...everybody are separated...all coz of me..I'm guilty ...adi asks her not to feel guilty and it's a temp phase and everything will work out. And not to stress herself
Aaliya calls adi she wants to share the good news.

The doc checks her...mani is also there..the doc says it's not good..as her BP is way too high..raman steps in and says it's due to him that shagun is in this situation..he wanted to talk to ishita, and apologizes
The doc says it's dangerous ..shagun pregnancy is revealed. .all are shocked ...
Ishu is very happy, so is ruhi and they all congratulate them ...
Adi is disturbed..he feels that he's almost getting married, now his mother is pregnant with her third no wait technically chaute pati KE Saath is expecting a baby..people will laugh..

At bhallas
Aadiliya says it's her dad's first child..I'm so happy ..he deserve it
A..he is your uncle but shagun mumma is my mom..at this age? You seriously expect me to carry a baby and play with it?..
He's thoroughly pissed
Aadiliya feels that this baby is very important to them..
So the entire bhallas come to know about the pregnancy
Toshiji and amma want to go to iyers to meet their hubby's
and send neelu away to cook.😆neelu..caught them red handed..why can't you tell me straight that you want to feed your husbands sweets?!...best line

Simmi and Gaurav ...Gaurav is a selfish person he wants to break the news to her parents...but she wants. Time...so garurav decides to take action.

Bhallaji, toshiji, and and Mrs. Iyer and talking..and Bhallaji says not to expect anything from them, in walks Gaurav with marriage proposal the women are happy, the men are shocked ..and Gaurav says simmi has given her consent..
Bhallaji is upset with this but toshiji is stating her case...bhallas says he wants to hear it from simmi herself...for toshiji marriage is the mother of all solutions..but that's not the case with Bhallaji ...in the mean time simmi appears..Bhallaji lol.." keep,your serial mentality to,yourself".. bestest line ...😆
Simmi gains their attention..she's upset with his move...and asks him to leave..
Simmi apologists to Bhallaji..asks her to think about it..but toshiji is nit giving up ..

At iyers ..sharam scene
Shagun asks raman how can he be so childish
Raman says sorry but his fate is not with him..and tells her not to stress herself. Ishita enters with a glass of lemon juice ..says not to stress herself , As Raman would never change and its better to ignore him...mani walks in with some multi vitamins...shagun feels better after having Lemon juice..and asks mani to keep keep an eye on shagun she gives her the dos and the dont's...
She leaves to give them privacy ..raman follows her ..and says his plans went wrong

Ishra scene
Ishu is busy in the kitchen and raman comes there..
I..when I don't want to talk to you what's the reason for him being there
R..fine if you don't want to talk you can atleast listen
I..i have to take milk for shagun ...if you don't leave I will leave..
She is not giving any chance for him to talk and tries to leave
Raman holds her and stops her from leaving by swearing on ruhi
She quietens after that
R..hadd hei , listen to what I have to say..first listen I have to talk and don't interrupt me..whatever I did ..I'm sorry for that..but it was not entirely my fault ...you create situation..so I have to go to the extreme..what can I do..
Ok fine..everything is my faults,,I'm and, I'm an ass, I'm stupid..folds his arms and says sorry ...come back yaar, I can't live without you..don't leave me, please..I will never do this again..I promise..please come back..
Just then someone knocks the door..it's neelu...tells raman that someone has come to meet him..raman says not now..but neelu says it's urgent ..ishu says it's urgent so leave...raman says " what can be more important than this ( them)., please.
So ishu asks neelu to get that person here
Raman tells ishu.." sorry yaar..maanjaonaa yaar", why are you doing this?
And neelu brings in that person..
The person has brought some samples of fliers that raman requested..
So ishu is wondering ..so she starts going Behind
Ishu confronts Raman..
She sees the flier ..it's a publicity flier asking people to visit bhatras clinic for their dental needs and Ishita will treat them. Ishita feels there's no need for the promotion ...she cutely complains..that even her qualifications is incorrect..and leaves
Raman feel whatever he does is a problem...sulking

Miku feeds Romi kheer..to celebrate shagun's pregnancy...she says..she is genuinely happy for them..it's nice to have a baby around...Romi can sense her pain..and Mika didn't get that Romi is hurt...Romi says he's sorry that they can't have a child..miku says...she's happy to see them from afar..she says she's fine and feels they are there for each other and that's more than enough.

Precap..
Toshiji fakes her pain ...asks ishita to come back home

My thoughts
Toshiji..never understood ishita's pain..I feel she has her own agenda...she wants ishta back..and now Bhallaji as stopped the proposal temporarily..if it goes wrong ..blame game starts..
Mrs. Iyer ..more worried and missing her hubby ..than worried for her daughter being disrespected and finger pointed..she's a lost case for me..
Bhallaji...perfect..he was very firm and said he cannot support them and stood up for ishita. As a father to simmi he was right in giving simmi the space and time to make the right decision.

Raman...I saw it as him justifying his words and actions..yes you took me to the extreme..what can I do..so I burst out...so what? so I fingerprinted on your mother hood, dissolved our relationship, but you put me in spot it was you?..sorry everything is my default etc etc...is enough to know he's not understood the severity of his accusations...so basically it's ishita's fault..he held her responsible for his words and actions.got it..
This guy will never understand the pain. Yes he cannot live without her..but atleast talk to her..try to understand what is it that hurt her the most. Just coz he cannot live without her he cannot force her to come..it means only one thing..he has no respect for her and is coming across a selfish person...its all about him..me, me , me me...
so he has not control over his anger and tongue..he has not understood at all..there's no point ..so he promised he will not repeat it. Lets c for how long...

Ishita...its high time she talk to him and make him understand Like you would do,to,a kindergarten kid...she's aware what raman is trying to do ..convince her...she's aware that he's not understood her pain. I'm going to wait to comment on her.

But who and what is ishita to the bhallas and iyers?
I'm beginning to think..do people see Ishita as a caretaker only?!..to run the family on smooth wheels ? A good manager ?
All have high expectations from ishita but none wants/ cares ...what ishita expects and wants...
Even after ishita openly saying still none got her hurt?!
Romika...can we see another surrogacy track in the making ?
Adi ..he was not at all happy that shagun is pregnant...are cvs showing this, is what will happen if ishita gets pregnant?! Are they testing the waters, viewers reaction by giving shagun's pregnancy ?..based on that ishita's pregnancy will be shelved or brought up? Coz viewers will definitely feel..pregnant t this age? Hope you guys got the point...
Neelu...even she could read the senior ladies...
Again ruhi KE kasam...

So all of ishita's hurt and pain and ishra relationship issues will never be addressed..all swept under the rug...ok then ...very big disappointment...

I'm so sorry ..I'm seeing scenes differently ...please do not let my take influence you in any way.

Btw..Raman was looking like a can of orangey soda...no offense...
Please change his wardrobe ...


Overall..ok

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Viji,
Sorry Viij and Swarna - I did not see yesterday episode till today so could not say what stood out for me in yesterday episode I will try to write about both days today.

Note: I am going to be little busy till May so I won't be able to write reviews as usual most of the days but will try to comment on what stood for me if I get time.

Coming to Yesterday episode

What the hell Raman was wearing yesterday. He is dressing up like typical teenagers showing biceps and tight shirt. I never liked this dress style but thought since it is a soap they should get leeway so I never mentioned it but I kind of lost it yesterday for god sake he was going to get a business men award he should be dressed appropriately at least for the function instead of dressing like a man who is in mid-life crisis. KP should seriously consider who he is keeping as his fashion designer.

Who the hell goes to a function where you are honored stone drunk. 😡 (Raman should stop drinking that is the not the solution to all problems) He hits a car and gets into a fight the men ask him to apologize and he taunts them saying have you met my wife(This was uncalled for there was no need to bring Ishita into his roadside brawl and if CV thought this would be a funny scene they failed it big time because it was just another insult to his wife) Ishita is shocked when she sees Raman fighting she immediately sends Ruhi to bring Romi, Adi and Bhallaji to stop the fight(I thought this was a correct decision instead of going in between a group of men fighting with her stone drunk husband in which many things could have gone wrong for herself if she interfered she chose the best option she had to call the men of her house to break up the fight) Ishita keeps Pihu (Which is a wrong decision on my part she should have sent Pihu also with Ruhi) Pihu tries to stop the fight and gets hurt in the process the fight is stopped by Bhallaji,Adi and Romi.

Pihu - I never connected with this kid and never could understand her reaction. I was not sure why she was afraid of Raman when he came to met her. If she is afraid of Raman fighting then why did she interfere to stop the fight why was she not afraid at that time. If it was not about fighting then why was she afraid of Raman because I thought she was glued to Raman after the Australia trip. Total confusion for me with this character.

Ishita/Raman - The water pouring could have been avoided it was so distasteful for me. I agree you need to pour water on a person who is stone drunk for him to come back to his sense but the same confrontation could have been done when he was sober. Ishita was right in telling that Alcohol is not the answer for stress.

Pihu fever - Raman comes to meet Pihu but she gets afraid of him (I don't know why) but then family seeing Pihu reaction asks Raman to go mildly at first and then forcefully. This was a direct rehash of hospital scene where Raman stripped Ishita of being a mother for Pihu the second time. He sits outside the door crying. (This scene would have had a greater impact if they had given a FB scene of Raman remembering this is what he did with Ishita from there they could have explored him realizing the hurt of Ishita for the first time but alas they left that opportunity)

Mihika/Romi scene was cute both were missing each other but Mihika blames Ishita for breaking the family apart.

Simmi/Param/Gaurav - All bhallas have the same problem they take decision in anger and suffer the consequences later. Simmi was angry with Param, Gaurav instigated her and she fell in his trap in her anger against Param and accepted his proposal.

Mani/Shagun - They are the new IshRa are they are staying together for a kid and slowly we will see their love developing only difference here is since it is Shagun it is a biological child not a borrowed child.

Coming to today episode


Raman mistakenly kidnaps Shagun in place of Ishita and when he opens the blanket Shagun faints because she was suffocationg for 20 -30 sec under a blanket. What nonsense 😡 Ishita and Raman are happy (There might be two reason for it

1. Shagun got another bakra to play her favorite custody game so she might leave the bhalla kids alone

2. Ishita genuinely might be happy for her best friend becoming a dad for real) The whole family knows about her pregnancy and everyone is happy. Adi is not happy as he is thinking about being a elder brother when he is an adult. (I guess this is the answer they are going to give for not giving Ishita pregnancy that Adi is an adult and he is going to feel embarrassed for this but if that is the case let me tell you CV make Ishita pregnant after sorting out IshRa issue you don't even have to ask for TRP we fans would rain TRP on you. Oh NO Let me make it clear so that you don't misunderstand Ishita pregnant means not through proxy but Ishita actually carries the baby for full 9 months and delivers a healthy and alive baby. Raman pampering her that is when you will be rained with TRP)

Neelu - The elder ladies wants to share the news with her husband so they try to say Neelu is lazy. Neelu gives back to them If you wish to see your husband go see for that don't call me lazy. Way to go Neelu👏 The elders are blushing as their lie has been caught.

Ruhi/Adi - Ruhi is feeling guilty and Adi was consoling her that was such a nice scene.

Gaurav/Simmi - Simmi says to him that this not the right time. Gaurav monologue states that the game is at the right time and he needs to get married to Simmi at any cost at this time so he takes the Shagun to Bhalla house Toshjii is immediately happy and wants to accept it but Bhallaji is more sensible he says that if that is the case Simmi would have told us Toshjii keeps harping about Simmi life Bhallaji shuts her up saying this is not serial this is Simmi life and he would need to ask Simmi he just has left the house for principal but still he is the head of the house. Simmi comes there and is upset with Gaurav and asks him to go and she is embarrassed with the family but Bhallaji assure her that she can take any decision. (My guess since the time we have seen Gaurav he has been wearing full sleeve so what if he is related to Nidhi hiding his tatato. Today his monologue confirmed that he doesn't love Simmi but he needs Simmi for a purpose in life and he needs to get married to her in a particular time frame. )

Mihika/Romi - A matured conversation between these two. I cannot believe this is the same Romi who was wild he has matured with age. Mihika also understood his pain and supported him as a wife the scene was nicely done. (I have one question though if Mihika can understand Romi pain then how come she is unable to understand Ishita whom she saw crying buckets for her inability to conceive)

Ishita/Raman - Raman goes behind her to talk but Ishita is avoiding him finally he gives a promise on Pihu and she stops to listen. Raman tells her that he is sorry for whatever he did but it was not his mistake but she pushes to him to the extreme. Ishita is not giving him finally he says okay its all my mistake I won't repeat it come back home I cannot live without you. I promise I won't do this again. (Couple of days I thought Raman never even realized the hurt he is giving to her but I realized in this conversation today Raman exactly knows what he did to her. He also know how to get around her hurt giving him a clean state by making her feel guilty for her actions since the mistake was done by her in the first place now that he is successful in making her feel guilty we will see Ishita melting towards him without any talk between these two)

Neelu comes and calls Raman but he refuses to come then Ishita asks the person to bring him to the house as soon as the person walks in Raman gets hyper and takes him out. He has asked to put a flyer promoting Ishita job. Ishita is impressed and tells him that he did not even put correct qualifications for her. Raman is thinking this plan also flopped.

Precap: Stage is being set for Raman breaking his promise throwing Ishita out of the house due to Simmi marriage fiasco.

Things stood out in the episodes fore me.

1. Raman loves Ishita but its conditional as long as everything is fine he is okay with her.

2. Ishita loves Raman but cannot take a stand for herself as she is always guilty of one thing or the other.

3. Toshjii needs Ishita to make Simmi agree to this marriage so she is doing drama.

4. Since Ishita is back in Bhalla house and now cannot go back to Iyers house to make her stand after she finds out about Toshjii fake illness so she is going go to Shagun house(This is my guess base on the segments as both the segments Ishita was wearing the same pink sari)

5. Simmi life is once again going to be in a mess because of Toshjii and Ishita will be blamed for it.

6. I loved Bhallaji today. He was correct regarding Simmi state of mind and he clearly told marriage is not a solution to all the problems.

7. Garav is related to Nidhi.

8. Ruhi is back to hiding something.

9. Shagun baby is going to create havoc in IshRa life once again.

10. Gulbso looks like Ishita to me now. Mani is being blackmailed, Ishita is going to Mani house, Nidhi is going to be out with Mani help so she might plan to kill Isitha in the process Ishita might lose her memory and become Gulbso. This whole Ishita walking out track the one thing which was constant is Raman telling that Ishita loves him more and he cannot stay to be separated for him so if she loses her memory than she would forget that she loved Raman then wooing of her starts.


Sorry everyone - I know I am all over the place today but wanted to tell what I thought about today episodes, coming episodes and segment since I am not sure whether I would get time to do reviews till May.





Edited by mayasun - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mdwst

Btw..Raman was looking like a 1/2 empty Fanta bottle


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Hi Viji!

I'm so disappointed that yet again CVs are not tackling IshRa's relationship issues with maturity! I don't know what's their problem! Why are they so inept in regards to Ishita?

They could be bothered to show a mature convo between Romi & Mihika but it's all a joke between IshRa?

Wth 😵
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bulleya


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Hi Viji!

I'm so disappointed that yet again CVs are not tackling IshRa's relationship issues with maturity! I don't know what's their problem! Why are they so inept in regards to Ishita?

They could be bothered to show a mature convo between Romi & Mihika but it's all a joke between IshRa?

Wth 😵

Hi
Me too...I'm so frustrated and disappointed..yet again their core issues are swept aside...like you I'm wondering why is ishita's character not explored at all ..this may be it ..the Tim who delve deeply into things character...again brushed aside..
Seriously the wardrobe needs to be addressed...raman as a CEO...the wardrobe is not..perfect.

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Viji..lovely review😊
and Half Empty Fanta Bottle😆..good one..

just saw the Ishra scene ..

so according to Mr RKB it is Ishu's actions that have elicited such extreme reaction from him..great👏 got reminded of Newtons Law..
but reactions where you drive your wife to suicide?..does he even remember it..all forgotten ..wow
so Iam to understand that for all his vicious and abusive behaviour the other person has to be at fault..
so all the slaps that he gave Adi.humiliated him in public ,threw Mihir out at the insistence of His sister Rinky..and ofcourse all the abuses hurled at Ishu..are all because they deserved it ?that what I am getting to understand.from Mr RKB dialogues..

btw who is the dialogue writer ..she/he needs to be sued for such trashy dialogue

And ishu well what do I say ..

as mentioned by me earlier she has lost a golden opportunity to put forth her emotional upheaval in front of Raman ..In fact the premise in which the whole situation played out was itself wrong ..it started with Taking the kids ..wrong decision..it should have been between husband and wife...
so I still maintain I am disappointed with Ishu as a woman.
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she and she herself is responsible for letting Raman walk all over her ..

and Raman well he is in denial ..all his apologies have no meaning to me as a viewer but seems like It has started to mean something to Ishu..so who am I to complain ..

"MIya Biwi Raazi Toh kya Karega Kazi"

anyways my views dont matter to the cvs... but yes I rue the loss of a beautiful track..



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Posted: 8 years ago
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So all of ishita's hurt and pain and ishra relationship issues will never be addressed..all swept under the rug...ok then ...very big disappointment
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That is the big takeaway from today's episode. One flyer and Ishita almost gave in?! So much for self respect.


Toshiji has remained in character though - she is always concerned about her kids and grand kids AND thinks marriage is the solution to all problems - hence her excitement about Simmi's 😆 plus they need to have Ishita back to convince Simmi to get married - else who would they blame when things go wrong?🤢

So much joy for Shagun's baby?! Seriously? 😲 I can see (not) why Ishita would rejoice though - this the first one of Shagun's babies for whom she does not need to become 'Ishimaa' to - time to celebrate! 😊

Thanks for the detailed review.
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Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi
Me too...I'm so frustrated and disappointed..yet again their core issues are swept aside...like you I'm wondering why is ishita's character not explored at all ..this may be it ..the Tim who delve deeply into things character...again brushed aside..
Seriously the wardrobe needs to be addressed...raman as a CEO...the wardrobe is not..perfect.


I believe Raman is an MD because Mihir is the CEO thus ... but neither does his clothing, neither his conduct represent him as a businessman. I doubt he even goes to office! Who wears such clothes to work!

They aren't taking it seriously at all and the talk of that gulabo track makes it all the more worse for me because that means solidifying this as a comedy track!

Ishita has a certain condition, Raman keeps pressing onto it and then this is how they treat the hurt Ishita is subjected to? They are incompetent and I swear to god, if I was the writer ... I would have elevated this storyline to a next level; there's still, DESPITE all the crap they dish out, a LOT of potential for good, meaningful, IMPORTANTLY IshRa centric tracks. However, that would have to have them exclude their favourite few but wouldn't that be disrespectful #ifyouknowyouknow to a few people 😉

Ishita has her own problems to deal with and here she's serving lemon watet to Shagun, advising her like a doctor!

The IshRa scene was cute, I wouldn't deny but that just cements my belief of the CVs being totally useless because the gravity of the matter is too huge to just be shoved down our throats as 'roothna manana'

Overall, CVs treatment of IshRa leaves a very distasteful taste in my mouth and that just makes me so sad

Sorry for rambling, I wrote what I felt 😳 no offence meant!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice review viji. I saw the epi. Ishra scene was cute . but yes they are not going deep into this matter. Though the first two epi of this track were really good .but they need to keep the comedy thing in the track in order to engage trp audience .apart from ishra loved romika scene. Though raman is apologizing nd makinf efforts .that's really cute , byr still he hasn't understood the main thing. Nd I have no further expectations from him in this regard . but hope he never repeats his previous mistake . though I like emotional nd meaning full epis ,I equally love funny cute nd light hearted ones . so the epi was fine to me. Anyway when is miss gulabo coming !?
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I guess KP uses his own clothes for thee show. Whatever clothes he comes in from home, he just wears it in his scenes too. Its kind of weird. His top notch acting is commendable, but I think he should be a little careful of his wardrobe choices as he is shown to be a CEO not a college boy 😆😆
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Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh

Viji..lovely review😊

and Half Empty Fanta Bottle😆..good one..

just saw the Ishra scene ..

so according to Mr RKB it is Ishu's actions that have elicited such extreme reaction from him..great👏 got reminded of Newtons Law..
but reactions where you drive your wife to suicide?..does he even remember it..all forgotten ..wow
so Iam to understand that for all his vicious and abusive behaviour the other person has to be at fault..
so all the slaps that he gave Adi.humiliated him in public ,threw Mihir out at the insistence of His sister Rinky..and ofcourse all the abuses hurled at Ishu..are all because they deserved it ?that what I am getting to understand.from Mr RKB dialogues..

btw who is the dialogue writer ..she/he needs to be sued for such trashy dialogue

And ishu well what do I say ..

as mentioned by me earlier she has lost a golden opportunity to put forth her emotional upheaval in front of Raman ..In fact the premise in which the whole situation played out was itself wrong ..it started with Taking the kids ..wrong decision..it should have been between husband and wife...
so I still maintain I am disappointed with Ishu as a woman.
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she and she herself is responsible for letting Raman walk all over her ..

and Raman well he is in denial ..all his apologies have no meaning to me as a viewer but seems like It has started to mean something to Ishu..so who am I to complain ..

"MIya Biwi Raazi Toh kya Karega Kazi"

anyways my views dont matter to the cvs... but yes I rue the loss of a beautiful track..



Hi Sumi
@ bold...the dialogue was like that..due to their actions..they deserved everything that came out of his mouth ...period...yup, they are responsible not him...he got a clean slate..he always does..so no point in talking about it. Everything is forgotten Sumi...that did not sit well with me. Sumi rightly said..wife is ok..so who are we ?!...this could've been a beautiful track..well they have different vision..so yeah...

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