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Posted: 11 years ago
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Vyas,
If "everything with every show made sense" why would networks cancel or end shows?
Shouldn't all the shows be in the Top TRP slot?
Shouldn't there be a 36 way tie?

BIaddict is right, it will sooner or later stop making sense, Vyas.
Then the bean counters will have to decide what to do with it


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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: redwine1



Hello ..

Dunno if u made sense to anyone else .. but u made immense sense to me ... like u i have not yet focussed on the character called Mani ... coz i think the PH / Star have no clue about what to do with this guy ... i think maybe on fri / sat episodes some first line structure was given to this guy .. but its still wishy washy .. there have been to many iterations on this guy ..

So i for one would like to hold before i speak about this guy at all ..
Its similar to Suraj character .. before he came on scene he was supposed to be elder bro .. then he became younger bro .. now god knows .. even his character is not fleshed out as yet .. but he is clearly insignificant & is here for a short duration ..

Raman or Ishita's character or for that matter all the support characters in the show have spent 10 months with us .. thats how we know them & their lot in the serial .. this guy has been here for a week .. & that to without any long term agenda .. how can we KNOW about him ..

Any character needs time for the writer to flesh .. & for us to understand ..



On bold I think this exactly is the problem, throwing a character in without really having a plan on how to use him and giving him some dialogues that makes no sense. And how everybody reacts to him is also not well thought out in my opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1


Hello ..

Dunno if u made sense to anyone else .. but u made immense sense to me ... like u i have not yet focussed on the character called Mani ... coz i think the PH / Star have no clue about what to do with this guy ... i think maybe on fri / sat episodes some first line structure was given to this guy .. but its still wishy washy .. there have been to many iterations on this guy ..

So i for one would like to hold before i speak about this guy at all ..
Its similar to Suraj character .. before he came on scene he was supposed to be elder bro .. then he became younger bro .. now god knows .. even his character is not fleshed out as yet .. but he is clearly insignificant & is here for a short duration ..

Raman or Ishita's character or for that matter all the support characters in the show have spent 10 months with us .. thats how we know them & their lot in the serial .. this guy has been here for a week .. & that to without any long term agenda .. how can we KNOW about him ..

Any character needs time for the writer to flesh .. & for us to understand ..



Thank You.

@Bold

and therein lies my problem. For a character that has just been brought in, and hasn't been flushed out thoroughly, they are changing some of the established characters' behavioral traits.

Although we cannot really imagine how Ishita would be with someone who is her 'childhood' friend, it is difficult to digest that we got a character who hasn't been well thought of. And from the looks of it, he is very important to IshRa's relationship.

They can take time to establish him, yes, but they shouldn't make everyone else suddenly look different to accommodate that character





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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan



ZD... I don't know if the timeslot change is to be blamed for this or not. But their sudden introduction of Mani is what pricks me most.

If he is her best friend and was there on the show from day 1, we wouldnt have minded it at all... honestly it doesnt matter if its a man or a woman. She shares such a good equation with Bala... we (and Raman) would have gotten used to it by now with Mani too. Every one can have the best friend they want and need. But because they throw him in after 200 episodes and declare that they are langotiya yaars and all, her sudden and constant mani jaap is irritating...


lucky
I never objected her interaction with bala. infact I have always liked their interaction. i have seen bala also calling her gorgeous and all . but I don't feel it awkward that I feel in mani 's case and yes constant jaap and again comparison is height of immaturity.

in galiyan dance, people were so angry that raman compared ishu to shagun why now no objection? just because raman is jerk and mani is best?


Mani's track is sudden and overnight as per starting story !! that was never on card.

Proof: bala's mom said in very starting episode that ishita does not have any option that s why she is adopting child . could not bala call mani at that time to bring new life in ishita 's life, we have seen bala is very much concerned about Ishita's happiness. Now suddenly bala says to raman that tum bich me tapak pade!! I mean really ? it was 1 complete year gap between break up and they got married. bala ke dimag me tab kyu nahi aaya mani if mani was too much mad for ishita ? and where were all rest men who were waiting for ishu to get clear line?

@ leo, you are actually on right point
if raman has declared that shagun is out of his life and his heart ( clearly means he has no emotions for her no love no hate) still ishita can think that he still loves shagun, raman also should be allowed to think that ishita still loves subbu declaring subbu is out of her life and system.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan


Thank You.

@Bold

and therein lies my problem. For a character that has just been brought in, and hasn't been flushed out thoroughly, they are changing some of the established characters' behavioral traits.

Although we cannot really imagine how Ishita would be with someone who is her 'childhood' friend, it is difficult to digest that we got a character who hasn't been well thought of. And from the looks of it, he is very important to IshRa's relationship.

They can take time to establish him, yes, but they shouldn't make everyone else suddenly look different to accommodate that character






TV fan, you said exactly what I feel. Bottom line they are messing with the characters we love because they brought in a character that they are yet to figure out how to use.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

lucky
I never objected her interaction with bala. infact I have always liked their interaction. i have seen bala also calling her gorgeous and all . but I don't feel it awkward that I feel in mani 's case and yes constant jaap and again comparison is height of immaturity.

in galiyan dance, people were so angry that raman compared ishu to shagun why now no objection? just because raman is jerk and mani is best?


Mani's track is sudden and overnight as per starting story !! that was never on card.

Proof: bala's mom said in very starting episode that ishita does not have any option that s why she is adopting child . could not bala call mani at that time to bring new life in ishita 's life, we have seen bala is very much concerned about Ishita's happiness. Now suddenly bala says to raman that tum bich me tapak pade!! I mean really ? it was 1 complete year gap between break up and they got married. bala ke dimag me tab kyu nahi aaya mani if mani was too much mad for ishita ? and where were all rest men who were waiting for ishu to get clear line?

@ leo, you are actually on right point
if raman has declared that shagun is out of his life and his heart ( clearly means he has no emotions for her no love no hate) still ishita can think that he still loves shagun, raman also should be allowed to think that ishita still loves subbu declaring subbu is out of her life and system.



arre haan ZD... i am also saying the same thing...

if Mani was shown to be her friend for some time, then fine... but its like suddenly ek dost paida ho gaya, and they are all trying too hard to prove to us that yes Mani was always a part of her life...
arre where was he when her Amma was looking for alliances, when she was struggling to adopt a child???

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Posted: 11 years ago
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ishita mani jap is as irritating as raman insulting & rude 1 liners.ishita is clear abt her feeling for raman & also want love frm him.bt wat raman want?ishita married raman for ruhi,manage his home &relation,forgive adi for hurting her mom,helped raman in adi matter despite continuous insult frm shagun,der r many instance where she stood like pillar for raman.cant raman respect her or talk her without moking her.also shouting & mocking several time in front of other ppl.he is taking ishita for granted.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan



arre haan ZD... i am also saying the same thing...

if Mani was shown to be her friend for some time, then fine... but its like suddenly ek dost paida ho gaya, and they are all trying too hard to prove to us that yes Mani was always a part of her life...
arre where was he when her Amma was looking for alliances, when she was struggling to adopt a child???

Always a TV fan,

They EXPECT you to have a thing called "selective amnesia", case in point what we have with Rinki😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Always a TV fan,

They EXPECT you to have a thing called "selective amnesia", case in point what we have with Rinki😆


I am sorry... Rinki who ???? 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan


Thank You.

@Bold

and therein lies my problem. For a character that has just been brought in, and hasn't been flushed out thoroughly, they are changing some of the established characters' behavioral traits.

Although we cannot really imagine how Ishita would be with someone who is her 'childhood' friend, it is difficult to digest that we got a character who hasn't been well thought of. And from the looks of it, he is very important to IshRa's relationship.

They can take time to establish him, yes, but they shouldn't make everyone else suddenly look different to accommodate that character





Here are some real facts about TV land ...

When i say well thought out .. it means .. how well the audience takes to a character .. will this character make sense to be in for long term .. will the audience accept him

sometimes the PH brings in an actor simply to move the plot from one end to the other ( case in point sanjana) .. so deep thinking is not required .. if the character takes well u FLESH & BUILD On it .. but if not ..u move on ... use & drop ... sometimes even when u have the character for a long term agenda .. the viewer rejects the character totally .. & u slowly phase out the actor .. so while we may sit here & talk & debate for hours .. its not easy running a show .. for YEARS ON END ..

People who talk about Paki shows & Hollywood shows shud know .. those shows have a season format .. they don't have to put out more than 300 episodes a year ... how can consistency be maintained ... imagine seeing a crying sad mahaan ishita day in & day out .. UGH .. i would rather get breaks of a giggly one from time to time ..

When they have the luxury of 20 episodes in a year ONLY . believe u me all indian telly shows will show logic will show depth in thot & will show fleshed out perfect characterisations .. theres enuf talent for that ..

I am a great fan of a series called HOMELAND ... the show really has a very real to life look .. but at the end of the day .. wheres the logic .. there just seems to be ONE CIA OFFICER . CARRIE MATHISON .. who is capable of solving every US problem with middle east ..

Thats why it is called story telling if it was REAL . it would be a DOCUMENTARY ...

The only iteration is Ishita ..
as u said .. we really don't know how Ishita was when she was in school & how she was with manI or for that matter Subbu .. how she behaves now .. how can that be inconsistent .. i would say the writer is adding another dimension to the character .. this girl can also let go .. & not always be a "BAHENJI" in thot .. but was once young & youthful ..



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