Inconsistent and comprised story writing and characters-DT NT Pg7 - Page 13

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

See

This post is not about what Raman does

Raman has been nasty

And needs to stop insulting her if she is serious about her I agree

But my post is about inconsistency in writing

About how different ishita comes across from her core character

Ishita has always been shown mature and aware of things around her

And this constant mani jhaap does not match with her character atleast to me

Having fun does not mean losing perspective of things

To me around mani she looks starstruck

And to be fair

Even ishita said Raman had affair with sanjana in front of everyone without confronting Raman first

Yes Raman did not tell her anything

But to make a public spectacle on a big day for her sister was a bit too much

Ok, joining in a little late but here's my two cents on the topic.

Originally posted by: sunny303

A very interesting topic.

I agree that consistency is important in a tv show...I've said it before, if you're a fan of any soap opera, whether an American or an Indian one, then you have to tolerate some level of illogic to thoroughly enjoy some tracks lol...

You have To accept the story for what it is...I see there are many sci-fi lovers on here...I'm a huge GoT fan (I used to love True Blood circa everything before season 4 brough the craptastic flavour)...when I watch the show I fully accept the narrative of the story in the world that it's being told in...the characters are awesome, they grow, they go through a lot of shit and change (case in point Sansa), but their essence remains the same...the essence of the story remains the same...there is consistency in the characters...the react to the changing situations as themselves...their very essence isn't altered to suit the shifts in narrative.

That's what makes a story good for me.

YHM is a soap, not a 10 Epi show on HBO with that crazy ass budget...but it tells a great story and the characters are awesome...the only times I've been really annoyed is when the characters are
Altered to fit a track...I.e. Majboor Raman...and "Mahan Ishita-brings Param home" wack track...

I agree with those that say the character of Mani doesn't seem to be fully developed and did kind of pop out of thin air...but Ishita's reaction to him doesn't seem Inconsistent to me...I'm a ll gushy gushy with my uni friends too if I have t seen them for a while...there's a lot of squealing that happens when we meet lol! Mani needs to be flushed out a bit...but I don't mind the track...Raman needs a little kick in the butt to get the ball rolling so to speak...his reacion to Mani is quite mild to what it could have been if he was dangerously jealous...Vyas, you mentioned this in your mini scene quite well...he trusts Ishita but he's watching. Mani.

As long as they keep the characters as themselves and keep the story progressing, and have no more missing people (poor Rinki) that aren't ever mentioned again...the. We're all good!

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita

Ok, joining in a little late but here's my two cents on the topic.

Firstly, both our leads are flawed and that's what made us fall in love with them - that and the way their characters were written. However, right now the main frustration is inconsistency and in a lot of ways poor writing (bringing in unnecessary characters that are absolutely boring to watch - who do not have any backstory to support their entry - the CV's could have easily focused on the many existing characters that they have)

Secondly (and I'm looking at Ishita and Raman's relationship as a whole), yes - in a way they relationship has progressed but that progress has been shown poorly. Raman and Ishita have been through a lot together - their decision to get married, Ruhi's custody, the whole Param fiasco, Amma's accident and with that came Shagun and Adi's role in their life. Yet, other than the few occasional times - have they actually sat and talked about it ... NO. Has there been a major change in their behavior towards one another ... NO... Raman's taunts and one-liners have turned from being funny and well-placed to insulting and irritation. Ishita is being turned into one of those "I need to think about everything and everyone and only I can make the right decision." In other words, they are trying to fit her into the "perfect-bahu ideal" whereby she puts everyone else before her that we have seen time and again - and personally, I don't identify with that.

Also, this is something I mentioned in another post - I feel that Ishita's realization of her feeling towards Raman has been rushed. We (the 11pm watchers especially) have seen Raman's progress in his attraction towards Ishita but with the change of slot, the CV's have made it look like Ishita was the one who has been falling in love the whole time and Raman is just starting too - which makes everything look a little out of place and somewhat annoying to me.

Now, coming to Mani - for being the best of friends, they do not come across that way. And here is why and I am not basing this on the fact that Ishita giggles and goes "Mani, mani, mani" all the time (if anything in some ways it seems to imply that at some point, she had a crush on him and doesn't know how to hide that fact - if I was completely oblivious to the fact that she was married and these two are best friends, that's what I would see as an outsider). I am basing my thought on how my relationship is with some of my best friends, we can talk about anything and everything under the sun, yet that aspect seems to be missing in Mani and Ishita's relationship - it seems forced, out of place, and something just doesn't sit right.

Yes, the writing is inconsistent and bringing new characters with no planning whatsoever definitely doesn't help matters.

I just came across this thread of yours Vyas. Very different from your daily rantings thread but I have to say that I get to read some very interesting posts. The title of the thread is very apt since the recent jealousy track seems to be put together in a rush in order for the leads to admit that they have started feeling for each other. I would have said confessed but after the writer's interview it may be after another 250 episodes. I am going to ask the same question that I asked in another poster's thread. Why Raman and Ishita have to admit their feelings out of fear of losing each other? Is it wrong for them to take their own sweet time to confess when to me they have already started having deep respect, trust, care, concern and most of all the friendship. In a matter of time left alone, they would get around to doing that themselves without Mani or Shagun or anyone's intervention for that matter. What they had prior to Mani was they both were aware of their physical attraction to one another and actually self evaluating as to what is happening to them. With Mani in picture, they have let that slide and are fighting as to who is better and who is sensitive. That's inconsistency in writing there when viewers are asked to accept what is shown currently and ignore what was shown in the past. To me this lacks flow and coherency and as a viewer of the previous slot it does not go down well with me and as a new viewer they might misinterpret the whole thing that was presented to them. The idea should be retaining old viewers while gaining new ones.

Originally posted by: kt25

I just came across this thread of yours Vyas. Very different from your daily rantings thread but I have to say that I get to read some very interesting posts. The title of the thread is very apt since the recent jealousy track seems to be put together in a rush in order for the leads to admit that they have started feeling for each other. I would have said confessed but after the writer's interview it may be after another 250 episodes. I am going to ask the same question that I asked in another poster's thread. Why Raman and Ishita have to admit their feelings out of fear of losing each other? Is it wrong for them to take their own sweet time to confess when to me they have already started having deep respect, trust, care, concern and most of all the friendship. In a matter of time left alone, they would get around to doing that themselves without Mani or Shagun or anyone's intervention for that matter. What they had prior to Mani was they both were aware of their physical attraction to one another and actually self evaluating as to what is happening to them. With Mani in picture, they have let that slide and are fighting as to who is better and who is sensitive. That's inconsistency in writing there when viewers are asked to accept what is shown currently and ignore what was shown in the past. To me this lacks flow and coherency and as a viewer of the previous slot it does not go down well with me and as a new viewer they might misinterpret the whole thing that was presented to them. The idea should be retaining old viewers while gaining new ones.

Originally posted by: kt25

I just came across this thread of yours Vyas. Very different from your daily rantings thread but I have to say that I get to read some very interesting posts. The title of the thread is very apt since the recent jealousy track seems to be put together in a rush in order for the leads to admit that they have started feeling for each other. I would have said confessed but after the writer's interview it may be after another 250 episodes. I am going to ask the same question that I asked in another poster's thread. Why Raman and Ishita have to admit their feelings out of fear of losing each other? Is it wrong for them to take their own sweet time to confess when to me they have already started having deep respect, trust, care, concern and most of all the friendship. In a matter of time left alone, they would get around to doing that themselves without Mani or Shagun or anyone's intervention for that matter. What they had prior to Mani was they both were aware of their physical attraction to one another and actually self evaluating as to what is happening to them. With Mani in picture, they have let that slide and are fighting as to who is better and who is sensitive. That's inconsistency in writing there when viewers are asked to accept what is shown currently and ignore what was shown in the past. To me this lacks flow and coherency and as a viewer of the previous slot it does not go down well with me and as a new viewer they might misinterpret the whole thing that was presented to them. The idea should be retaining old viewers while gaining new ones.

Perfect priya

Nothing more to say

Ishita is over subbu long back before marriage it self and she has stated that subbu is out of her system...and coming to er behaviour when she meets mani is common between frnds that too childhood frnds bcoz however mature u r u cant be the same infront of a child hood frnd...even my mom behaves like a child even though she is mature but when she meets her siblings or her childhood frnds i find it cute...