Inconsistent and comprised story writing and characters-DT NT Pg7 - Page 3

Originally posted by: mnr123

Well clearly u r not liking this Ishita's Mani jaap n thats y u made this post.

I do agree with u on this. Sometimes I feel stories need not have a deeper meaning all the time. Sometimes to make the story look special it feels like devoid of any logic. Simple things like Mihika putting coffee on Ashok's legal papers cant ashok make another copy 😆 Cant she tell at least Mihir about it to avoid the confusion later, but she chooses to remain quiet so that we can see an intense drama later. 😆 Then Ashok spilling coffee on Mihikas phone (I found it so juvenile. 😆) nMihika crying that her phone is damaged n she cant show that Monica clip 😛. Well this story when EK launched she said its for " matured Indian audiences" 😆 😳. Any urban person wud know what happens when coffee or water spills on ur phone 😆.

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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Vyas,

When the writers DONT want to move the story along, they both are said to be wallowing in self pity of hurt and pain, at times when she has to gush over Mani like a love sick teenager she is supposed to have gotten over Subbu "looong ago"

I did mention in my posts various times the last week or so, when it comes to accepting or admitting Raman's advances CVs want us to believe she is supposed to be hurting immensely but when it comes to gushing over Subbu, she seems beyond silly to me.

I think with YHM becoming the slot leader and with Sonali admitting people will quit watching after a confession, I DONT think a confession is coming any time soon. They basically do not know how to proceed

This Forum might be excited to watch the after confession track... Raman win against Shagun/Ashok or Ishita winning over Aadi's love, etc.

But MOST audiences Producers bank on will abandon the ship when Raman and ishita consummate. Its a slippery slope they are walking on right now. Theyve been handed a huge prize also, of winning the slot leader ratings. They are completely confused about two things:

"what to do with the mature ISHRA story built over 9 months on a different time slot"

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"Trying to cater to sanskaari audience, while maintaining the "love" flavor and holding on to the wins of the new time slot"

Originally posted by: mnr123

Well clearly u r not liking this Ishita's Mani jaap n thats y u made this post.

I do agree with u on this. Sometimes I feel stories need not have a deeper meaning all the time. Sometimes to make the story look special it feels like devoid of any logic. Simple things like Mihika putting coffee on Ashok's legal papers cant ashok make another copy 😆 Cant she tell at least Mihir about it to avoid the confusion later, but she chooses to remain quiet so that we can see an intense drama later. 😆 Then Ashok spilling coffee on Mihikas phone (I found it so juvenile. 😆) nMihika crying that her phone is damaged n she cant show that Monica clip 😛. Well this story when EK launched she said its for " matured Indian audiences" 😆 😳. Any urban person wud know what happens when coffee or water spills on ur phone 😆.

As Madhubala said Humour if devoid of any logic looks silly. Its the same tracks devoid of logic looks silly. Maybe this sillyness has creeped in for 7.30 slot I think No we saw same illogical stuff when Ishita went n got Param home alone or when she got drunk Shagun home.

I guess the makers want to portray that a woman who is falling in love with Raman (as they showed n 22nd n 23rd Sep )prefers to spend more time with her best friend over the person with whom she wants to fall in love with (i.e Raman). Y coz any woman in her place wud do that I find this argument again silly.
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Ishita ok initially started Mani Jaap by saying ki I want to make Ravan jealous n admit his jealousy or love but clearly now it is not working. If this is a track to make Raman understand that its ok to be sensitive sometimes u need not b the so called alpha male, sometimes u need to use ur heart instead of ur Brain n anger (showing him n example f Mani) then also its a wrong track. 😆 Raman has so many times shown his sensitive side.

Ishita's refusal towards Mani's so cAlled carrying a torch for u statement. First time in party she says I m married lemme find u a nice girl here (trying to brush aside the topic) second time in coffee shop when asked her if she lovers her husband she says its not necessary to have love in marriage it can still work again not clearly saying I am happy in my marriage. Third time on bench she says u have no copyrights over me n laughs off. If somebody is ur best friend n if u say something to them seriously they will not get hurt but be happy that u came clean wid uf issues ( if I tell my best friend ki the topicu r discussing with me I am not liking please we will not discuss this she will understand) This is called maturity, somebody with whom u have gone to school n shared homework n played with is not ur best friend.

Maybe Mani didnt wanted to come in between Ishita n subbu hence he was not there in Ishitas life n went abroad but y did Ishita not share her pain with him then? What r best friends for only happy times ? Even Mani asks her Subbu k baad itna sab hua u cud hv called me I wud hv come to u she has no answer to that.

Hence this Ishita Mani relationship does not feel like two best friends but just good frirnds chatting n remembering gud old days. Clearly Ishita finds no emotional anchor in Mani n then when she spends quality time with him giggling n laughing she comes across as silly nothing else.

I know some people r liking it but m reAlly not liking this track n if this continue m thinking f not watching YHM. It currently looks like Ishra story is not progressing although both r asking each other valid questions. I guess i will give it a break for 2 -3 days.

Originally posted by: appuss

Hi... there is major inconsistency in ishra relation progress and the time slot change has added to it. One day you feel raman loves her., next day it is ishita, the next day both and the very next day cvs show both are not intrested. It is just commonsense to realise that they want to prolong the confession. I find it very silly, confession can come with the flow of the story. Cvs need not make it seem like at last they fall in love left with no other choice... now i'm not interested in their painful past at all... high time to finally move on, especially raman. Prolonging confession does not make sense to me anymore... 250 epi over and still the cvs want to keep us guessing. cvs will show them falling for each other when they are convinced that ishra is the last male and female remaining on planet earth and they are left with no choice than finally fall in love. Too much dragging kills the essence of the show. My opinion...

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

Leo

amma ke accident track ka side effect beti pe >> ishita ki matt mari gai he

In realistic way, no mature married woman would spend time with her bestie in night on bench doing khi-khi -khi-khi. some word is called "laxman rekha" even if she is clear by heart.

Mani jaaap is annoying and boring.itna to ruhi ka jaap bhi nahi kiya tha the little cupid who gave her another chance to live life

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

Hey Leo ... how are you... third time we meet today 😆 Sunday must really be boring for both of us

so... be patient with me... I will try and reply to your post, but may look like I am going off on a tangent. Also, you know I havent even seen Mani's face, so if I say something blatantly stupid, please correct me.

Once upon a time, we all wrote about how complex Raman's character is, and how many facets it has. Raman was (and may be still is) one of the most 'multi-layered' characters on TV.

You remember how we used to discuss that Ishita, comparatively, has not been explored by the writers at all. The only side of Ishita we saw was that of an infertile woman instantly connecting with a child next door. At some point, that started changing, and I don't remember if it was the accident track or even before that, where Ishita started doing things that we had not seen before.

Honestly, I gave them benefit of the doubt as much as I could. Because, in my eyes, they were just trying to build that character, when I was already in love with another established character. There were quite a few times I was disappointed, but I blamed my tolerance level for my impatience. So, to be fair to the CVs, they did try... with Ishita's character.

Now coming to the topic you chose... Subbu...

Her lines about Subbu had always been consistent. Till Mani arrived, my view was that she has moved on from Subbu. Her hurt and anger over losing the love of her life reduced over a period of time... the final scene that I remember where Subbu was being discussed was when Raman asked her (in his office) if she was happy... and she couldn't have given a clearer message.

My problem is with Mani's 'role' and background now.

IF Mani is her childhood friend... I am assuming he has been in touch with her throughout all the ordeals she has been through ? He knows about Subbu + Prateek + her inability to bear a child?

IF Mani is such a close friend... and if he knows her whole life story, he wouldn't bring up Subbu casually and repeatedly. Because even if she has moved on now, and is happily married, there was a time when Subbu was her life. and if I were her friend, I'd be sensitive to that.

IF Mani is a close friend and Ishita is so comfortable with him, then if he does bring up Subbu, then I'd expect a tinge of something in her eyes. Not because she still remembers Subbu... But because she remembers the pain she had shared with Mani when Subbu left her...

I think Ishita's behaviour seems inconsistent because of the Mani character and the lack of depth in his story, not hers... did I make sense ???