Inconsistent and comprised story writing and characters-DT NT Pg7 - Page 2

Hi... there is major inconsistency in ishra relation progress and the time slot change has added to it. One day you feel raman loves her., next day it is ishita, the next day both and the very next day cvs show both are not intrested. It is just commonsense to realise that they want to prolong the confession. I find it very silly, confession can come with the flow of the story. Cvs need not make it seem like at last they fall in love left with no other choice... now i'm not interested in their painful past at all... high time to finally move on, especially raman. Prolonging confession does not make sense to me anymore... 250 epi over and still the cvs want to keep us guessing. cvs will show them falling for each other when they are convinced that ishra is the last male and female remaining on planet earth and they are left with no choice than finally fall in love. Too much dragging kills the essence of the show. My opinion...

I dont agree! I am loving this track. Mani is brought in the show with a purpose and he will serve it. Ishu and Mani's friendship is at that level that she gets happy when he is around. When we feel so much happy and connected when we do online chatting with our friends. Isnt is obvious how would you react when you meet in person? This chirpiness of Mani & Ishu is no where related to their maturity level. Do you mean ppl who are mature should just say hi and sit even though they are meeting after ages? Ishita has gotten over Subbu long back! Even when Raman asked she didnt feel hurt instead she openly convincingly said Subbu is out of her system. The fact that she cant conceive hurts her the most and not Subbu!!

Originally posted by: redwine1

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Aaah dude ... ur one disgruntled customer ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Well lets c .. the first time Ishita spoke about getting over Subbu . its in the episode where she convinces Tandon to Let Neel & Trisha get engaged .. her words ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">I also lost my first love ... & it took me a long time to get over that first love</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Note she says .. GET OVER ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">in the next sentence she says ... Raman has not yet gotten over his first love .. so she was very clear where she stood ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Next scene ... when she speaks to Raman about Subbu .. she cudnt have put it more equivocally about the fact that she is over Subbu . she says that man is OUT OF ME ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">now i know ur a man .. so let me explain this as a woman .. when a woman says .. i HAVE TAKEN THIS PERSON OUT OF ME .. it means .. i am over that person .. this person has no sway over any of my emotions . whether happy or sad .. one becomes indifferent to that person .. it means that chapter of the life is OVER ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Now the writer has dedicated a 2 very important & LONG scenes to Ishita getting over her past .. for a character who has NO ACTUAL PHYSICAL PLAY in the story .. but as a mythical past .. i think its a scene to many ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Now about .. Ishita gushing around Mani ... whoa dude .. have u ever met a school friend after years & years ... girls are exactly like this .. u rediscover ur youth .. a time when u giggled instead of smiled .. a time when u gushed instead of clenched ur words .. a time when u talked a mile instead of thot before uttering a single word ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">This is what Ishita is rediscovering .. she is rediscovering her youth .. & any viewer who has ever reconnected with his / her past friends specially school kinds would be able to identify with it ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Just a kostin .. since i am one of the people to gush over "layered writing" .. did u by any chance wonder what is layered writing ... ? lemme know maybe i cud help throw light on it ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">lemme try helping u here what is layered writing in reference to what uhave written about Ishita being "mature & level headed" well heres awoman who isclearly over themoon to meet abest friend since childhood ...she is gushing giggling et all .. just like a young girl ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">the next scene they show this same woman single handedly handle all the rituals of her household .. rituals she has noclue about ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">the next scene they show this woman talkingto her husband about anissue pertaining to his ex .. which could potentially impact their 2 kids ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#000066">Thats called layered characterisation ... this is a complete woman . she is an everyday woman .. one who wears many faces .. she is fun when theoccasion demands ..she is responsible whenresponsibility is on her shoulders & she is the PERFECT PARTNER when the need arises ...</font>

I am not disgruntled

I like to point out what I see

Well I still don't agree

In same way Raman has said that multiple times to her that he is over Shagun

She still believes he loves her in latest episode

Now in same way I say that she is not over subbu

Atleast in her conversations with Raman it seems so

She has said multiple times she knows hurt and pain of being abandoned

Which means she clearly has not somewhere forgotten the pain and in short reason of that pain subbu

Now coming to meeting her friend after years

I agree she is excited

But now she has been meeting him continuously for past 3-4 days now that should be enough to calm her down

And to me as a guy it looks slightly over the top and out of character

And to me layered writing is compromised when she fails to recognise anything other than mani like in last night episode where she gave credit of finding out Romi was drunk to mani when clearly it was Raman who also found out by himself

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

Very well said

But do you think she really has moved on

Many times in conversation with Raman she has said that it is not easy to forget hurt n pain subbu have him

Vyas,

She is way over Subbu. She had decided to move on with that guy (forgot his name) she almost got engaged to.

Vyas,

I am not disgruntled

I like to point out what I see

Well I still don't agree

In same way Raman has said that multiple times to her that he is over Shagun

She still believes he loves her in latest episode

Now in same way I say that she is not over subbu

Atleast in her conversations with Raman it seems so

She has said multiple times she knows hurt and pain of being abandoned

Which means she clearly has not somewhere forgotten the pain and in short reason of that pain subbu

Now coming to meeting her friend after years

I agree she is excited

But now she has been meeting him continuously for past 3-4 days now that should be enough to calm her down

And to me as a guy it looks slightly over the top and out of character

And to me layered writing is compromised when she fails to recognise anything other than mani like in last night episode where she gave credit of finding out Romi was drunk to mani when clearly it was Raman who also found out by himself

Well clearly u r not liking this Ishita's Mani jaap n thats y u made this post.

I do agree with u on this. Sometimes I feel stories need not have a deeper meaning all the time. Sometimes to make the story look special it feels like devoid of any logic. Simple things like Mihika putting coffee on Ashok's legal papers cant ashok make another copy 😆 Cant she tell at least Mihir about it to avoid the confusion later, but she chooses to remain quiet so that we can see an intense drama later. 😆 Then Ashok spilling coffee on Mihikas phone (I found it so juvenile. 😆) nMihika crying that her phone is damaged n she cant show that Monica clip 😛. Well this story when EK launched she said its for " matured Indian audiences" 😆 😳. Any urban person wud know what happens when coffee or water spills on ur phone 😆.

As Madhubala said Humour if devoid of any logic looks silly. Its the same tracks devoid of logic looks silly. Maybe this sillyness has creeped in for 7.30 slot I think No we saw same illogical stuff when Ishita went n got Param home alone or when she got drunk Shagun home.

I guess the makers want to portray that a woman who is falling in love with Raman (as they showed n 22nd n 23rd Sep )prefers to spend more time with her best friend over the person with whom she wants to fall in love with (i.e Raman). Y coz any woman in her place wud do that I find this argument again silly.
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Ishita ok initially started Mani Jaap by saying ki I want to make Ravan jealous n admit his jealousy or love but clearly now it is not working. If this is a track to make Raman understand that its ok to be sensitive sometimes u need not b the so called alpha male, sometimes u need to use ur heart instead of ur Brain n anger (showing him n example f Mani) then also its a wrong track. 😆 Raman has so many times shown his sensitive side.

Ishita's refusal towards Mani's so cAlled carrying a torch for u statement. First time in party she says I m married lemme find u a nice girl here (trying to brush aside the topic) second time in coffee shop when asked her if she lovers her husband she says its not necessary to have love in marriage it can still work again not clearly saying I am happy in my marriage. Third time on bench she says u have no copyrights over me n laughs off. If somebody is ur best friend n if u say something to them seriously they will not get hurt but be happy that u came clean wid uf issues ( if I tell my best friend ki the topicu r discussing with me I am not liking please we will not discuss this she will understand) This is called maturity, somebody with whom u have gone to school n shared homework n played with is not ur best friend.

Maybe Mani didnt wanted to come in between Ishita n subbu hence he was not there in Ishitas life n went abroad but y did Ishita not share her pain with him then? What r best friends for only happy times ? Even Mani asks her Subbu k baad itna sab hua u cud hv called me I wud hv come to u she has no answer to that.

Hence this Ishita Mani relationship does not feel like two best friends but just good frirnds chatting n remembering gud old days. Clearly Ishita finds no emotional anchor in Mani n then when she spends quality time with him giggling n laughing she comes across as silly nothing else.

I know some people r liking it but m reAlly not liking this track n if this continue m thinking f not watching YHM. It currently looks like Ishra story is not progressing although both r asking each other valid questions. I guess i will give it a break for 2 -3 days.

To me this whole Mani gushing and Mani's love smitten cheesy dialogues are like suddenly chewing on gravel in the middle of a good meal. I won't say YHM has lost its charm or anything. But often when they bring in new characters they go to extremes to hi light a certain point without paying attention to the character sketch. Same thing happened with Param, Sanjana and now Mani. They end their tracks quite nicely but the way they try to bring out a certain aspect in a track mess up with their original characterization. I think the reason is unlike viewers like us who fell in love with the original concept and the strong character build up they gave us on Ishita and Raman, they only focus on that particular track and TRP is their only goal. In the race for TRP, they know jealousy track will work because the majority wanted that. So even if that butchers the characterization of the characters they will go with that. After all it is about quantity (TRP) not about quality.