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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: bwvianna

Viji,
Beautifully written sequel.! The SwaSan scene in the beginning with Ragini's jealous thoughts, the SwaSan and Ragini confrontation, the arrival of a guest -Kaveri, Ragini-Kaveri first meeting, RP's reaction, RP-Kaveri confrontation, Sanskaar's emotional turmoil leading smoothly towards SwaSan passion filled romance. It was so well written and then I scrolled down for more and zilch.! I did not want to stop reading. That was some really intense and emotional update.! Really loved it.

Eagerly awaiting another update. :)

-V

P.S.: Happy New Year.! :)


Hey Vrinda 🤗 🤗

Wish you and yours A Very Happy New year. May 2016 bring you all that you desire. 😊

Thanks so much for your lovely words about this OS. Was very happy to know that you'd liked it so much.

Am working on the next part of Karna Parva (Day 17). Hope you have it up soon after I return home from my vacation.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: foresight

I begin the year with a story from you and Saku...what can i say, amazing start to the year! 🤗

Loved how you started this Parva.

Ragini still at her games and now SwaSan fighting her together and one team and not playing their own games. The subtle love and care in there relationship that you brought out was beautiful. This is what real relationships are all about.

You have portrayed Ragini well...unable to have her own happiness, jealous of the happiness she didnt wish for her sister who wins everything she wants, in a way. trying to hurt others for her pain, and failing miserably at it and then trying to hurt them harder.

i loved how they were doing detectivegiri together 😆. They mistook Kaveri to be referring to Ram earlier, but you kept the confusion alive wonderfully. Sanskar ended up being haunted by it, mistaking his father to have committed the mistake.

ohhh the family is teasing the love birds...nice add...though what was supposed to be a lie actually turned out truer that swara thought it to be 😳 😳. loved their sweet moment where he wasnt sure how to ask for the company and she understood it and gave it to him. it shows a wonderful level of understanding between them. i really liked that.

you know how we both think ram prasad is under utilised in the show. i loved how you showed him to the the strength that kept the family grounded.

i am looking forward to the next part already...why couldnt this have been in the show instead. both your Parva's for that matter.

i am so so happy you have kept Kavita off this by the way. I like how it focuses on SwaSan, Ragini to some extent and Ram...at least for now.








Hey Sapna...first of all, thanks so much again for your very analytical comment. I've been wanting to reply comprehensively for a couple of days now, but with my travel on holiday, I've been getting dark looks from family for spending so much time on IF. 😆

That's why I gave a brief reply from my phone the other day, and I finally got some lappie time today. 😉

Coming to Ragini...now that the serial seems to have frittered away a good many possibilities to gradually and convincingly redeem her, I wanted to envision her as a wily, cunning and machiavellian antagonist. She has become so embittered at her happiness having eluded her, she's just intent on blighting any happiness and peace of mind of others, whom she deems to have wronged her.

What I wanted to show here was, that she has wiles and cunning on her side, but she's coming up against the much wider perspective, the strategic thinking, and ---for want of a better word---wisdom, with which Sanskaar counters every plot of hers. I think he can literally run circles around his ex sishya and her hired hacks. 😆

About Swara and Sanskaar, I did want to show that gradual rapprochement between them, the steady restoration in the trust Sanskaar always felt for her. Swara has gone all out to win his trust back, assuage his pain by demonstrating her love and faith through her actions. I am so very glad that you liked that portrayal of understanding and care between them.

Your conclusion about the substance of the Ram---Kaveri conversation is very interesting. 😊 I'll tell you the same thing I told Saku: to borrow a sentence which Remus Lupin tells Harry Potter "Your instincts are good and nearly always right" 😉

As regards Kavita...I am never going to write any fic which involves her. Apart from as a pleasant memory of a past love, in Sanskaar's mind. Nothing more.

Thanks again Sapna. 🤗 Wish you and yours A Very Happy New Year.




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Posted: 9 years ago
Perfect viji just perfect
I loved it keep it up

I always wanted ragini to be jealous like this by seeing Swasan
I fail to understand this sudden transformation of ragini's character overnight, she should have suffered then realised and then finally redemption, in the serial it seems rushed to me but your os is lovely
Swasan 😳 was so romantic and intensely passionate
Great great great work

I am not watching swaragini currently - i don't like this Kavita track
Just see the Swasan scenes and skip the rest
At one point of time I was so disappointed that I was not reading the os/ss/ff also but now atleast I am active on forum therefore sorry for late reply

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: luvakanksha

Perfect viji just perfect

I loved it keep it up

I always wanted ragini to be jealous like this by seeing Swasan
I fail to understand this sudden transformation of ragini's character overnight, she should have suffered then realised and then finally redemption, in the serial it seems rushed to me but your os is lovely
Swasan 😳 was so romantic and intensely passionate
Great great great work

I am not watching swaragini currently - i don't like this Kavita track
Just see the Swasan scenes and skip the rest
At one point of time I was so disappointed that I was not reading the os/ss/ff also but now atleast I am active on forum therefore sorry for late reply


Hey Akanksha. ..🤗 🤗

Thanks so very much, this feedback means a lot, coming from you. So very glad to hear you liked this. Your warm compliments really made my evening.

As we've discussed before, I also find Ragini's character really fascinating. I would have liked to see a gradual, sensible redemption track for her. Perhaps her realization after the kidnapping episode. But the serial took it to another track altogether.

I also hate this Kavita track, it makes no sense to me at all. Its so futile and illogical. I am also keeping my spirits up by watching the SwaSan scenes, and writing my desired "alternate reality" of the serial canon. And of course, visiting the forum to read the discussion and fics here.

Can I make a request? Please don't discontinue your SwaSan FF yaar. I liked it so very much. I loved the character of Komal you had created, and it was poised at such a nice stage. Please do continue it.

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Posted: 9 years ago
Hi Friends. ..😊
Have begun catching up with individual replies to all your lovely comments, and should be through by tomorrow. Thanks again for the amazing and very thoughtful feedback. Its really made the dawn of my New Year very special. 🤗 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hiii Viji! Wish u a very very Happy New Year! ! Sorry ive really taken my time in reading the 2nd part and replying to it...Kids on holiday mode is 1 thing and school restarting is a different ball game altogether! !
Anyway coming now to Karna Parva (sorry i misnamed it in my earlier reply) ... needless to say u hv outdone yourself! Firstly i wanted to say tht u write so beautifully and reading ur ffs is like im in a book and the story just flows on its own...thr is no part tht is forced or out of place...each line is just right.

I loved the beginning establishing how well the rapport has developed btwn swara and sanskaar and how with each action of hers she proves her love and care fr sanskaar.

Smart intelligent and business conscious Sanskaar...how does someone with no business acumen whatsoever like Ragini stand a chance against him...tho in her foolhardiness she is trying her best...or rather i would say avengeful evilry.

I also liked how u hv tried to explain the transformation of ragini frm the sweet innocent to the evil witch and the possible reason fr tht tho i feel nothing justifies evilry so it would be just a matter of her choice of path.

RamPrasad!!! Again u bring him to the limelight and yes he is such an integral part of Sanskaar's life whatever Sanskaar felt in terms of agony n disillusionment i could completely relate to him. I feel tht even tho he looks upon Bade papa as a revered figure in his life his own father is his ideal fr all his values and in anticipating something clandestine with Kaveri his values and ideals seemed to be going down the drain with him. But the best part was when swara helped him talk out his feelings and he confessed tht he feared betraying her ... and swara gives the example of her own father's multiple betrayals to her mom and proving to sanskaar tht its not always like father like son ... what a sense of acceptance sanskaar would hv felt then...really viji u portray emotions so deeply one can actually feel the agony or ecstasy of each character!

And aah!!! The much awaited consummation scene...amazingly described. ... fully manages to convey the deep love of both Swara and sanskaar and whatever the final part will bring...m sure all will b well

N u hv given us hope with our quote...plus u cant let down our respect fr RamPrasad just yet...m sure the twist is round the corner!

Really loved this part and i don't knw how u manage it but m sure the final part will outdo all my expectations this time too!

Hope u r having a lovely vacation!

Love Tas
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: maaneetfan

Hiii Viji! Wish u a very very Happy New Year! ! Sorry ive really taken my time in reading the 2nd part and replying to it...Kids on holiday mode is 1 thing and school restarting is a different ball game altogether! !

Anyway coming now to Karna Parva (sorry i misnamed it in my earlier reply) ... needless to say u hv outdone yourself! Firstly i wanted to say tht u write so beautifully and reading ur ffs is like im in a book and the story just flows on its own...thr is no part tht is forced or out of place...each line is just right.

I loved the beginning establishing how well the rapport has developed btwn swara and sanskaar and how with each action of hers she proves her love and care fr sanskaar.

Smart intelligent and business conscious Sanskaar...how does someone with no business acumen whatsoever like Ragini stand a chance against him...tho in her foolhardiness she is trying her best...or rather i would say avengeful evilry.

I also liked how u hv tried to explain the transformation of ragini frm the sweet innocent to the evil witch and the possible reason fr tht tho i feel nothing justifies evilry so it would be just a matter of her choice of path.

RamPrasad!!! Again u bring him to the limelight and yes he is such an integral part of Sanskaar's life whatever Sanskaar felt in terms of agony n disillusionment i could completely relate to him. I feel tht even tho he looks upon Bade papa as a revered figure in his life his own father is his ideal fr all his values and in anticipating something clandestine with Kaveri his values and ideals seemed to be going down the drain with him. But the best part was when swara helped him talk out his feelings and he confessed tht he feared betraying her ... and swara gives the example of her own father's multiple betrayals to her mom and proving to sanskaar tht its not always like father like son ... what a sense of acceptance sanskaar would hv felt then...really viji u portray emotions so deeply one can actually feel the agony or ecstasy of each character!

And aah!!! The much awaited consummation scene...amazingly described. ... fully manages to convey the deep love of both Swara and sanskaar and whatever the final part will bring...m sure all will b well

N u hv given us hope with our quote...plus u cant let down our respect fr RamPrasad just yet...m sure the twist is round the corner!

Really loved this part and i don't knw how u manage it but m sure the final part will outdo all my expectations this time too!

Hope u r having a lovely vacation!

Love Tas


Wow Tas...🤗 🤗

Thanks so much for your amazingly lovely comment. I just got back home from vacation about 10 minutes back, and was kind of having a holiday hangover. And then I read your comment and I felt so very happy. Thanks for making my evening. 🤗

I will pakka reply in more detail tomorrow from my lappie, your comment was so analytical and lovely it needs a comprehensive reply. For now, just wanted to say that I am so very glad you liked this OS as well as the previous one (Dyuta Parva). Will do my utmost to ensure the 3rd part lives up to your expectations.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Sakura24

Hi again Viji dear,

Since I wanted to discuss our mutual fascinations in a better long note I had delayed replying to this one, forgive me, I wanted to come home and find some free time to write a long reply here.

I had initially wanted Ragini redeemed too, as in the earlier days of the show Ragini had captured much of my attention, she was a character with so much potential...but as I saw that hope flatted I had turned towards seeing her as a cold, icy villain only to be disappointed again.

That's why I so enjoyed the Ragini you've portrayed here. She had stepped out of my dreams for her!

I enjoy the concept of gray shades too much, not that I admire evil, but the brainy and cunning villains sort of thrills me. So you can see how much I wanted Ragini to be much more dangerous than what she is in the show at the moment.

Coming to Mahabharat. Your thoughts I completely agree with. In fact I've seen so many touches of Mahabharat within the Maheshwari family, their entangled pasts, behaviors and relationships.

As you see Sanskar a combination of Karna, Arjuna and Sri Krishna, I see the same characters taking in turn to flash themselves out of him. It also has a certain string connected to the way they build up the inter-relationships of the characters.

As I have touched upon the winter series, Sanskar becomes Arjuna for Durga Prasad's Drona (Being the ideal son of a certain past), or Bhishma, he becomes Karna to Bhisma again (by Durga Prasad's certain choices that almost outcasts Sanskar) or at a time to Drona (I'm referring to his considerable partiality towards Lakshya here.) Then again Sanskar has a tiny fault on his side, of loving someone not accepted by his family and Durga Prasad being the lord Parshuram on the incident curses him in to utter destruction!

I have seen the Sri Krishna side of him mostly in the missions he involved for Swara, the planing, the wit and as you said the correct guidance he offered due to his perceptiveness certainly marks as a Krishna route to Swara's Arjuna role at that point.

As you have said, I've never envisioned Swara as Draupadi either. She is not that, but on some notes Subhara and Chitrangada can be paralleled with her. Going by the current one on the show, I guess Yudishtira's female version is also apt somewhere. Trying to do the greater good even at the cost of all one has...is that kind of a quality...good but utterly self traumatizing too.

Oh, had you read the frost knight completely when you posted this. You would have known how much I agree on Sanskar's pain, and his self fear with your portrayal. You know SQ has left him with some of the same insecurities...

you're right about the ending, it was needed, the most natural at the way things proceeded. And I did enjoy it a lot!



Saku dear...🤗 🤗

Literally rubbing my hands in glee at the Mahabharat analogies. 😊 You know my fascination for those, so am going to discuss the ones in my post and your reply, in more detail with you tomorrow. 😊 Dearly hope I won't bore you. 😉

Just stepped into home about a half hour back, after a week long holiday. Kinda in a holiday hangover mood, and tomorrow the Monday morning blues to boot. But pals like you on the forum make me feel better. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hi Friends...🤗 🤗
Back home from my vacation and will catch up with my detailed replies to the last 5 comments or so within the day. 😊

Shru, Shruti, Sakshi, Kaku & Tas...thanks guys for the amazing comments. I wanted to reply comprehensively when I had lappie time, and hence the brief replies from my phone earlier. (OK maybe not so brief, but not as comprehensive as I would normally like to do 😊). Shall revert today.

Lots of Love

Viji
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: tootiefrootie11


Res dearest Viji!

Happy New Year!!
Unres:

🤗 For this sis,

As we have discussed, desperately need sustenance in these "dark" times of the actual show. Co-incidentally I also just posted my part 3 update to the Restitution Series and also explored the Kaveri angle there, taking a different but somewhat similar track in terms of dealing with the paternity of one of the Maheshwari sons! Soul connect at play again?!

Coming to this excellent chapter, Karna Parva was as compelling as its predecessor part but in an entirely different way, which is always a delight to the reader. I have never been a huge "fan" of Karna in the MB, despite finding him fascinating. I agree that with Sanskaar there are some striking parallels that can be drawn for the parts of Karna's character that I do admire and thankfully the ones I don't, Sanskaar is free from in my opinion. By the latter I refer to the blind loyalty which isn't discerning enough to pull him back from grave wrong, evil even. But here, the parallel is masterfully drawn and works perfectly as it is linked to his potential paternity and to the more attractive traits, such as his steadfastness, his resolve and his grit in doing what needs to be done without seekinh sympathy or credit. A hero who doesn't demand the title. I may be spoiling the suspense but I get the feeling from the way this was constructed and your note at the end that the next part will help restore matters and Sanskaar's fear won't come true to hound him.

I liked the further development of Ragini's jealousy and spite as that flowed so well from Dyuta Parva. Also loved the business aspects detailed and set out logically and realistically, some thing that we just don't get in the mindless drama we are forced to watch!

What can I say about the SwaSan scenes?! The whole continued journey of Swara proving her love so effectively, just like Sanskaar did before is my dearest wish for the so this is soothing balm to me. The scene at the end l the way from that kiss to the love making which was the best healing for Sanskaar's hurt soul and psyche was magical and my New Year overall got improved reading this. Needless to say each of the descriptive elements especially in the gardening scene were superb.

Another wonderful offering, very gratefully received. I would have made this even longer but like you am on a leash due to already spending hours on reading and writing instead of spending time doing stuff and going out:). Love how we sit here hiding from families writing these on holiday! Love you and wishing for a wonderful 2016 for you and the family xoxo



Hey Shru... 🤗 🤗

Back to home base and got time on my lappie for a comprehensive reply to your lovely comment. 😊 As I mentioned in my earlier short revert from my phone, I was seriously getting visual daggers pointed in my direction, especially from Hubby & Bro, for spending so much time on IF, whilst on family vacation! 😆

Hahaha when I read "recompensed" I was really marveling at the soul connect. There has to be one, for we hadn't even discussed this Kaveri angle really, and there was a fair degree of basic similarity in our exploration of how she fits into the Maheshwari family saga. 🤗 🤗 But luckily the details and the way we have each decided to flesh out the plot is very different, loved your take, and when I update my next part (Karna Parva---Day 17), would love to know your take on it as well.

Glad you liked the parallels and analogies between select traits of Sanskaar's, and those of Karna in the Great epic. Oh I agree with you completely, I don't think Sanskaar is exactly cast in the Karna mold. Where I think the parallels play out, is in his courage, valor and loyalty. But as you said, the loyalty isn't blind in the sense of countenancing deceit and trickery.

I also do feel Sanskaar is a mix of select attributes of Karna, Arjuna and Shri Krishna.

Arjuna, for his qualities of focus, unwavering dedication, single mindedness and devotion.

Shri Krishna, for his broad perspective and ability to see the bigger picture. And for his ability to take difficult, unpalatable decisions for the greater good, even when these detrimentally impact his own interests.

I won't delve into further details of the Ram Prasad---Kaveri conversation here, but I will borrow a phrase from the Harry Potter novels, something which Remus Lupin tells Harry "Your instincts are good, and nearly always right". 😃 😉 Will reveal all in the next chapter. 🤗

I was so happy that you liked the business aspects of this chapter, and how Sanskaar checkmates Ragini's attempts to force a liquidity crisis on the firm. I do think of Ragini as a wily, cunning antagonist. But after all, she is confronting Sanskaar, her erstwhile guru, the expert in strategic planning and execution, the prodigy who has become one of the finest entrepreneurs of Kolkata. He would be able to run circles around her and her hired minions. 😊

And dozens and dozens of 🤗 🤗 to you for those lovely, amazing words about the SwaSan scene towards the end. I had poured my heart and soul into that, Shru, literally. I wanted to show their mutual tenderness, the way she reassures him of her absolute trust in him, the way he is bravely attempting to handle this blow on his own, but relies on her to heal the wounds to his soul, his sense of identity, his psyche.

And of course, given their inextricably linked souls, the fact that their love is really so passionate, so intense, so pure---well the consummation just felt right at that stage. I was so overjoyed that you liked it---felt assured that it had come across the way I wanted it to.

Waiting for "Rewarded" from you now. 😊 You said it would be up in a day or two? I am targeting putting up Day 17 by the end of this week.




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