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Posted: 6 years ago
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Although I don't support kunal s actions of trying to bring mauli and ishan together by pulling himself down , but I see where he is coming from . The character cannot be wrong here because after coming back, he noticed that mauli is still not over him , not over their past so he is only trying to help her ..He is guilty , he was always guilty for betraying mauli and spoiling her life so from his end he is trying to sort it out... Ishans mom had put a condition and mauli cancelled the engagement. When kunal got to know that he and his family is the reason , he did the needful . Mishti wants ishan as her father and ishan is a great guy for mauli but kunal himself is the hindrance . The problem here is that he is not realizing that love and emotions cannot be forced . Mauli can't be forced to love ishan and accept him . Instead of this drama the three of them can have a mature conversation and decide. But since this is a tv serial , and they have to shoot the episodic story , here we are..I don't hate kunal like I used to ..Made peace with all the characters..

Ok..From here on if I think how kunal and maulis equation will be, it's not complicated ..Kunal may not love mauli but he respects her ..Mauli still loves kunal..Both may find a middle ground for the sake of their children ..But I would still root for mauli ishan if and only if mauli accepts him wholeheartedly ..Both the scenarios are somewhat similar..In the first mauli , pari will be happy , in the second , ishan mishti..What mauli means to kunal is what ishan means to mauli . How to decide ?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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If Kunal was in love with Nandini before leap (I see it as obsession because he really didn't get a chance to think about his feelings, Nandini and Rajdeep kept pushing him to the end, Nandini was like a drug addiction for Kunal), he was also in love with Mauli for 7 years...

There is a reason there was no effort or deep love emotions from Kunal towards Nandini, he fell for her watching her dance in rain, KuNan were always about attraction not love. I will never accept KuNan's relationship as love...

I don't know what Kunal is going to say or not, I am saying that I will accept Maunal in a condition where he says that he didn't love Nandini, he couldn't come back because Nandini was pregnant

I don't like this branding of relationships here...

Mauli choosing Ishaan = Progressive Mauli choosing Kunal = Regressive

Mauli is a successful, educated woman this is her prerogative to choose what she wants in her life, she has every right to make a choice and progressive means not judging women for making their life choices...


Self esteem = Confidence and satisfaction in oneself

How will Mauli lower her self esteem, if she is confident in her choice and satisfied with a life she is having?

Same goes if she chooses Ishaan, it's her decision and whatever she decides for herself is the best for her, it may not be the best for me and that's fine because I am not her...
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


If Kunal was in love with Nandini before leap (I see it as obsession because he really didn't get a chance to think about his feelings, Nandini and Rajdeep kept pushing him to the end, Nandini was like a drug addiction for Kunal), he was also in love with Mauli for 7 years...

There is a reason there was no effort or deep love emotions from Kunal towards Nandini, he fell for her watching her dance in rain, KuNan were always about attraction not love. I will never accept KuNan's relationship as love...

I don't know what Kunal is going to say or not, I am saying that I will accept Maunal in a condition where he says that he didn't love Nandini, he couldn't come back because Nandini was pregnant

I don't like this branding of relationships here...

Mauli choosing Ishaan = Progressive Mauli choosing Kunal = Regressive

Mauli is a successful, educated woman this is her prerogative to choose what she wants in her life, she has every right to make a choice and progressive means not judging women for making their life choices...


Self esteem = Confidence and satisfaction in oneself

How will Mauli lower her self esteem, if she is confident in her choice and satisfied with a life she is having?

Same goes if she chooses Ishaan, it's her decision and whatever she decides for herself is the best for her, it may not be the best for me and that's fine because I am not her...


he was in love with both at different times. i also saw it as attraction till a particular time.. but the point is attraction doesnt lead to a marriage and then a kid and the most important thing is now nandini is dead..

what kind of person is kunal this whole scenario makes kunal?? his wife is dead so he is seeing mauli as an option..
even if he says nandini was his mistake then also how can u say this is his true feeling and he isnt seeing mauli as an option??

he always believed that nandini was his true love and now he may believe mauli is his true love . tomorrow he may regret it again!!

how to believe that guy if he keeps fluctuating like this.. if nandini was alive then probably the scene would hve been different..

i am telling u this for one more time, that if kunal says nandini was his mistake then i feel mauli may maaro a chanta to him kas ke..!!
all drama, so many tears and so much pain he gave to mauli and his own family and kid for his attraction??

that will make kunal a horrible person..!! and its not me who has this opinion.. wait and watch if he says so then what will be the outcomes of that..


and about choosing ishaan or not is something not related to going for kunal or not.. i see ishaan as a hope and her happiness and that has nothing to do with mauli going for kunal..

if she chooses kunal (which i believe very strongly that she will not) after all this then she is definitely a weird example of regressiveness.. actually i dont want to elaborate it again, as i have already did in previous reply to u that IT IS NOT ONLY CHEATING but also many other things which makes me feel that mauli will not choose him.. so i think i shouldnt waste my energy on something which i feel isnt gonna happen..
lets discuss this point when the right time comes..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettywomaniya


he was in love with both at different times. i also saw it as attraction till a particular time.. but the point is attraction doesnt lead to a marriage and then a kid and the most important thing is now nandini is dead..

what kind of person is kunal this whole scenario makes kunal?? his wife is dead so he is seeing mauli as an option..
even if he says nandini was his mistake then also how can u say this is his true feeling and he isnt seeing mauli as an option??

he always believed that nandini was his true love and now he may believe mauli is his true love . tomorrow he may regret it again!!

how to believe that guy if he keeps fluctuating like this.. if nandini was alive then probably the scene would hve been different..

i am telling u this for one more time, that if kunal says nandini was his mistake then i feel mauli may maaro a chanta to him kas ke..!!
all drama, so many tears and so much pain he gave to mauli and his own family and kid for his attraction??

that will make kunal a horrible person..!! and its not me who has this opinion.. wait and watch if he says so then what will be the outcomes of that..


and about choosing ishaan or not is something not related to going for kunal or not.. i see ishaan as a hope and her happiness and that has nothing to do with mauli going for kunal..

if she chooses kunal (which i believe very strongly that she will not) after all this then she is definitely a weird example of regressiveness.. actually i dont want to elaborate it again, as i have already did in previous reply to u that IT IS NOT ONLY CHEATING but also many other things which makes me feel that mauli will not choose him.. so i think i shouldnt waste my energy on something which i feel isnt gonna happen..
lets discuss this point when the right time comes..


Attraction does lead to marriage and kids...
In India, people don't even date each other and their marriages are arranged, ie they don't even get a chance to get attracted to each other and marry but they have kids... He married Nandini in weird circumstances

Kunal's marriage to Nandini was not a well thought out decision, what led to his marriage was Rajdeep trying to kill Nandini, Rajdeep played a catalyst in their relationship, they never had a breathing room, they didn't get time to think about their relationship...

Nandini was in love with Kunal, the greatest husband but was he who she thought he was? Kunal got enamored of Nandini's beauty, her Saree and the fact that she needed him, it was a new experience for him, all his life he was surrounded by strong women, a weak needy Nandini was a new thing in his life, he kept helping her and he was attracted to her...there really wasn't any depth in their relationship, it was all very superficial...

Kunal seeing Mauli as an option after Nandini's death - Isn't that why I am saying that I want to see a scene of flashback where Kunal realizes that he can't live without Mauli but he can't leave Nandini because she is pregnant...

That negates the whole point of Kunal wanting Mauli back because Nandini is not with him anymore, he wanted to be with Mauli all along, he came back to India, he sees that Mauli has moved on and he did not meddle in her relationship...

If Nandini was alive.. She would have been an insecure wife, Maunal reunion was the story all along, even in promo they never hinted at Maunal not being together, in mock shoot videos, there was one video where Kunal tells Nandini that he can't live without Mauli, you can read the early interviews of channel or producer, they always stated that KuNan was an attraction, recently producer said in an interview that Mauli's one and only love is Kunal...

The story was always about Maunal finding their way back to each other, channel meddled and they had to change the story here and there


I don't understand what's regressive about a woman choosing a man she loves, if he is repenting and regretting his life choices?

Chalo change the genders of characters..

If Mauli was the one to cheat and Kunal the one to accept her back, it would have been progressive?

Do understand that Mauli is NOT accepting his cheating, she is not accepting his lies, his deceit,... She is accepting his apology, she is accepting that he has changed and he won't do this again...

Kunal won't do it again, didn't you see Mehek hitting on Kunal and Kunal saying that he has had enough?


If Mauli chooses to live with Kunal or Ishaan, it's her choice, there's nothing progressive or regressive in a relationship

Regressive would be Mauli accepting Kunal's cheating, but that's what I don't want her to do, that's why I want Kunal to say that he never loved Nandini, he simply never had the time to think this through, his relationship with Nandini was pushed by Rajdeep and Nandini, that's why I want him to regret and repent...

Even if they don't reunite, I want him to repent leaving Mauli

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Attraction does lead to marriage and kids...
In India, people don't even date each other and their marriages are arranged, ie they don't even get a chance to get attracted to each other and marry but they have kids... He married Nandini in weird circumstances

Kunal's marriage to Nandini was not a well thought out decision, what led to his marriage was Rajdeep trying to kill Nandini, Rajdeep played a catalyst in their relationship, they never had a breathing room, they didn't get time to think about their relationship...

Nandini was in love with Kunal, the greatest husband but was he who she thought he was? Kunal got enamored of Nandini's beauty, her Saree and the fact that she needed him, it was a new experience for him, all his life he was surrounded by strong women, a weak needy Nandini was a new thing in his life, he kept helping her and he was attracted to her...there really wasn't any depth in their relationship, it was all very superficial...

Kunal seeing Mauli as an option after Nandini's death - Isn't that why I am saying that I want to see a scene of flashback where Kunal realizes that he can't live without Mauli but he can't leave Nandini because she is pregnant...

That negates the whole point of Kunal wanting Mauli back because Nandini is not with him anymore, he wanted to be with Mauli all along, he came back to India, he sees that Mauli has moved on and he did not meddle in her relationship...

If Nandini was alive.. She would have been an insecure wife, Maunal reunion was the story all along, even in promo they never hinted at Maunal not being together, in mock shoot videos, there was one video where Kunal tells Nandini that he can't live without Mauli, you can read the early interviews of channel or producer, they always stated that KuNan was an attraction, recently producer said in an interview that Mauli's one and only love is Kunal...

The story was always about Maunal finding their way back to each other, channel meddled and they had to change the story here and there


I don't understand what's regressive about a woman choosing a man she loves, if he is repenting and regretting his life choices?

Chalo change the genders of characters..

If Mauli was the one to cheat and Kunal the one to accept her back, it would have been progressive?

Do understand that Mauli is NOT accepting his cheating, she is not accepting his lies, his deceit,... She is accepting his apology, she is accepting that he has changed and he won't do this again...

Kunal won't do it again, didn't you see Mehek hitting on Kunal and Kunal saying that he has had enough?


If Mauli chooses to live with Kunal or Ishaan, it's her choice, there's nothing progressive or regressive in a relationship

Regressive would be Mauli accepting Kunal's cheating, but that's what I don't want her to do, that's why I want Kunal to say that he never loved Nandini, he simply never had the time to think this through, his relationship with Nandini was pushed by Rajdeep and Nandini, that's why I want him to regret and repent...

Even if they don't reunite, I want him to repent leaving Mauli

when a man or woman really love each other and are married ..you don't want to leave your spouse ..even if you are married many years ..but if you really love your spouse you will not want to end the marriage ..and yes it's possible to find another person attractive ...sometimes even to the extent of having an Ema ..but when you really love someone you don't want to lose that person,.thats why sometimes even when there's a Ema the cheating spouse tries to hide it from their partner because they don't want to end the marriage . But with Kunal he wanted an end to his marriage ..he wanted out ..and that only happens when a man doesn't love his wife anymore ,he loves his new woman. Remember Kunal was desperate to leave Mauli..he didn't even want to touch her after he met nandu ,. If it was was just lust or attraction or carnal desires ..he still wouldn't have been so desperate to leave Mauli after having a sexual relationship with nandu..As his desires would have cooled down a bit ..but no he only wanted nandu ...and this only happens when a man has fallen in love with the other woman..if he hadn't and still wanted his wife ..he would have tried to hide the Ema to save his marriage .


















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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira1211

when a man or woman really love each other and are married ..you don't want to leave your spouse ..even if you are married many years ..but if you really love your spouse you will not want to end the marriage ..and yes it's possible to find another person attractive ...sometimes even to the extent of having an Ema ..but when you really love someone you don't want to lose that person,.thats why sometimes even when there's a Ema the cheating spouse tries to hide it from their partner because they don't want to end the marriage . But with Kunal he wanted an end to his marriage ..he wanted out ..and that only happens when a man doesn't love his wife anymore ,he loves his new woman. Remember Kunal was desperate to leave Mauli..he didn't even want to touch her after he met nandu ,. If it was was just lust or attraction or carnal desires ..he still wouldn't have been so desperate to leave Mauli after having a sexual relationship with nandu..As his desires would have cooled down a bit ..but no he only wanted nandu ...and this only happens when a man has fallen in love with the other woman..if he hadn't and still wanted his wife ..he would have tried to hide the Ema to save his marriage .




















There are 7 billion people on planet earth, we are socially, physically and psychologically diverse species, there is no hard and fast rule on how people behave in a relationship..

For me it is very simple, if you love someone then go for it, be damn the society, they have restricted us enough, there have always been rules about how women should behave and how they should be act, these restrictions are regressive.. It's not wrong as long as you are happy, your partner is happy and you are not hurting or deceiving anyone in the process..

Going back to Kunal is a fall from grace for Mauli but what if she realizes that Ishaan took Kunal's help to woo her? Is he telling her the truth? Did he tell her that he was somehow involved in a plan which led to her heartbreak?
Even Ishaan is happy deceiving and manipulating Mauli as long as he gets her, but taking help from Mauli's husband who cheated on her, is not fall from grace for Ishaan because the same rule is not applied to him, rules and restrictions are for women
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dilbole_ShiOmRu



P.S If CV's were really interested in progressive and bold concept then they could have shown Mauli doing EMA and Kunal accepting her after that 😆. As Husband EMA's and wife accepting them back has been done from the 1950's Era in all B&W movies we can see that😳


I too agree. It would look progressive if the wife had the EMA and hubby accepting that or proving himself "sati". 😆. Why 1950 ...husband doing EMA is one of the oldest concept of history. 😆 Man has the right to polygamy. Where ppl get shocked if wife have a EMA. or bachpan ki payar 😆 It would look more progressive if Mauli marry both Kunal and Ishan. 😆😆 Chalo bahut hi bold and original concept. 😆 It would also look progressive if somehow Mauli gives punishment to Kunal for his cheating. As society is all about "woman forgives...like Mauli is doing to Kunal and accepting Pari". 🤢 Woman is like goddess. They can't say "uff" even if someone strangles them. It would look progressive if Mauli kicks Kunal out from this house and start to live there.

Nothing bold in this serial. Same old nagging and shedding tear of woman. The problem is now instead of Gopi bahu they are using an independent girl. Story is still the same one...new wine in old bottle. 🤢🤢
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


There are 7 billion people on planet earth, we are socially, physically and psychologically diverse species, there is no hard and fast rule on how people behave in a relationship..

For me it is very simple, if you love someone then go for it, be damn the society, they have restricted us enough, there have always been rules about how women should behave and how they should be act, these restrictions are regressive.. It's not wrong as long as you are happy, your partner is happy and you are not hurting or deceiving anyone in the process..

Going back to Kunal is a fall from grace for Mauli but what if she realizes that Ishaan took Kunal's help to woo her? Is he telling her the truth? Did he tell her that he was somehow involved in a plan which led to her heartbreak?
Even Ishaan is happy deceiving and manipulating Mauli as long as he gets her, but taking help from Mauli's husband who cheated on her, is not fall from grace for Ishaan because the same rule is not applied to him, rules and restrictions are for women


kunal didnt tell mauli he slept with nandini behind her back!!
mauli didnt tell ishaan that his mother wanted her to break her ties with her family.
ishaan didnt tell mauli kunal helped him..

what is common between all of these situations??
deceiving?? nope!!
ishaan isnt a person who will deceive mauli.
u also know that!!
may be he will tell her when the time is right.
may be he thinks he will end up hurting mauli more.. may be makers are taking a cinematic liberty here and will disclose this later.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


There are 7 billion people on planet earth, we are socially, physically and psychologically diverse species, there is no hard and fast rule on how people behave in a relationship..

For me it is very simple, if you love someone then go for it, be damn the society, they have restricted us enough, there have always been rules about how women should behave and how they should be act, these restrictions are regressive.. It's not wrong as long as you are happy, your partner is happy and you are not hurting or deceiving anyone in the process..

Going back to Kunal is a fall from grace for Mauli but what if she realizes that Ishaan took Kunal's help to woo her? Is he telling her the truth? Did he tell her that he was somehow involved in a plan which led to her heartbreak?
Even Ishaan is happy deceiving and manipulating Mauli as long as he gets her, but taking help from Mauli's husband who cheated on her, is not fall from grace for Ishaan because the same rule is not applied to him, rules and restrictions are for women

lol I think when you've been married many years like I have , when you've seen many friends and family's marriages ...and basically when you've seen a lot of life ...you gain knowledge ...because experience is knowledge ...so this is just my point of view from someone whose experienced and seen marriage for many years..and got to know what happens in many other people's marriages as well. so my viewpoints are just based on real life experiences of what I've seen work and do not work in marriage ..not only mine but many other people's as well.. 😊 and yes there are 7 billion people around the wiorld but when it comes to love and marriage ..across all cultures , across all races and economic status etc...something things stay common to help,create a happy marriage ...I.e. love , respect and fidelity/ faithfulness and trust ..😊
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There are 7 billion people on planet earth, we are socially, physically and psychologically diverse species, there is no hard and fast rule on how people behave in a relationship..

For me it is very simple, if you love someone then go for it, be damn the society, they have restricted us enough, there have always been rules about how women should behave and how they should be act, these restrictions are regressive.. It's not wrong as long as you are happy, your partner is happy and you are not hurting or deceiving anyone in the process..

Going back to Kunal is a fall from grace for Mauli but what if she realizes that Ishaan took Kunal's help to woo her? Is he telling her the truth? Did he tell her that he was somehow involved in a plan which led to her heartbreak?
Even Ishaan is happy deceiving and manipulating Mauli as long as he gets her, but taking help from Mauli's husband who cheated on her, is not fall from grace for Ishaan because the same rule is not applied to him, rules and restrictions are for women
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Kunan did the same...they didn't care about society nor respect the sanctity of marriage which is itself made by society...they broke all rules,restrictions and choose their love above everything...were they right?

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