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Posted: 6 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: prettywomaniya


kunal didnt tell mauli he slept with nandini behind her back!!
mauli didnt tell ishaan that his mother wanted her to break her ties with her family.
ishaan didnt tell mauli kunal helped him..

what is common between all of these situations??
deceiving?? nope!!
ishaan isnt a person who will deceive mauli.
u also know that!!
may be he will tell her when the time is right.
may be he thinks he will end up hurting mauli more.. may be makers are taking a cinematic liberty here and will disclose this later.


Kunal's lie was on another level, I won't compare him with Mauli or Ishaan, out of these three, he is clearly the worst human

Mauli did not tell Ishaan about his mother's conditions, how is that a lie or deception?

If Mauli should not keep any relationship with Kunal, who cheated on her, how can Ishaan take help of Kunal, a man, who is the reason Mauli is still not able to move on, who is the reason of Mauli's pain, to woo Mauli?

If Mauli should not have any association with Kunal, and if she does then she is a 2rs aurat apparently, then how come Ishaan is taking Kunal's help to make Mauli fall in love with him?

The point is that Mauli is already being s**t shamed and evaluated for something she may or may not do in future but Ishaan already has an association with Kunal, but that's fine...
Do you see any chance of Mauli being happy with the fact that Ishaan took Kunal's help and lied to her?
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Posted: 6 years ago
#52

I have stated clearly that "It's not wrong as long as you are happy, your partner is happy and you are not hurting or deceiving anyone in the process.."

Kunal did not do the same... Nandini and Kunal deceived and hurt Mauli..

Kunal cheated on Mauli, if Kunal had divorced Mauli even before asking Nandini about her feelings for him then it wouldn't have been wrong..

Yes, Mauli would have been hurt but cheating is not right



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Kunal's lie was on another level, I won't compare him with Mauli or Ishaan, out of these three, he is clearly the worst human

Mauli did not tell Ishaan about his mother's conditions, how is that a lie or deception?

If Mauli should not keep any relationship with Kunal, who cheated on her, how can Ishaan take help of Kunal, a man, who is the reason Mauli is still not able to move on, who is the reason of Mauli's pain, to woo Mauli?

If Mauli should not have any association with Kunal, and if she does then she is a 2rs aurat apparently, then how come Ishaan is taking Kunal's help to make Mauli fall in love with him?
Different rules for different people?

i am glad u dont compare mauli and ishaan to kunal.!
thats i am explaning to u. both ishaan and mauli are not deceiving each other..
mauli didnt tell ishaan bcz that will create problems in his family.
may be ishaan didnt tell mauli not to hurt her further.
about him taking help from kunal --- if mauli and ishaan can have lunch with kunal, if mauli says i am okay with kunal and he is a good doctor , helped people in camp then what ishaan is supposed to think of kunal??
mauli is okay with kunal so ishaan is also okay with kunal. and he didnt actually get convinced in first go.. kunal literally forced him to take his help.. and above all the point is ishaan isnt making a fool of mauli.. he is lying to her. he isnt deceiving her , he just took kunal's help, kunal who is in talking terms with mauli..

i choose my words very carefully when i am on a public platform. not only words but my way of expressing thoughts also.
i never called her 2 rupee aurat!!

just made a thread where i praised mauli..
she is my favourite.. u have literally no idea how much i adore her and why..

to me it seems that she had lost her path amd will not choose kunal ever. but if she does then i am not suppose to praise her or even like her or support her just bcz she is my favourite character..

why would i not dislike that mauli is ready to forgive a person who had given her so much pain.?? if it were not mauli and some real friend would i have advised her to get back to such person?? wouldnt i have criticised her? wouldnt i have told her that she is repeating a mistake..?? i would have!!
and i am doing the same for this character too bcz to me she is a very dear character.!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: prettywomaniya

i am glad u dont compare mauli and ishaan to kunal.!
thats i am explaning to u. both ishaan and mauli are not deceiving each other..
mauli didnt tell ishaan bcz that will create problems in his family.
may be ishaan didnt tell mauli not to hurt her further.
about him taking help from kunal --- if mauli and ishaan can have lunch with kunal, if mauli says i am okay with kunal and he is a good doctor , helped people in camp then what ishaan is supposed to think of kunal??
mauli is okay with kunal so ishaan is also okay with kunal. and he didnt actually get convinced in first go.. kunal literally forced him to take his help.. and above all the point is ishaan isnt making a fool of mauli.. he is lying to her. he isnt deceiving her , he just took kunal's help, kunal who is in talking terms with mauli..

i choose my words very carefully when i am on a public platform. not only words but my way of expressing thoughts also.
i never called her 2 rupee aurat!!

just made a thread where i praised mauli..
she is my favourite.. u have literally no idea how much i adore her and why..

to me it seems that she had lost her path amd will not choose kunal ever. but if she does then i am not suppose to praise her or even like her or support her just bcz she is my favourite character..

why would i not dislike that mauli is ready to forgive a person who had given her so much pain.?? if it were not mauli and some real friend would i have advised her to get back to such person?? wouldnt i have criticised her? wouldnt i have told her that she is repeating a mistake..?? i would have!!
and i am doing the same for this character too bcz to me she is a very dear character.!!


Mauli has no control over what Ishaan's mother demand of her, so she has no control over what Ishaan will do if he gets to know that how bizarre his mother's demand was to Mauli, and she has no control over Ishaan's mom, basically this situation is not something she can control

But Ishaan had a choice, he is not a child, he should know that you don't take help of cheater husbands to woo their ex wives, Ishaan did lie to her, Ishaan allowed Kunal to help him, he was so happy with the knowledge of Mauli's cheater husband saying that none knows Mauli more than him...

Ishaan was wrong when he took Kunal's help, then he was wrong when he didn't tell Mauli about the truth before getting engaged to her again

I don't dislike him or anything, if you have seen my list of likes, I do like Ishaan more so because he remembered that Mauli needs time, I am not against MauHaan, I am just saying that I will accept whatever Mauli decides is best for her life...

My friend is in love with this guy, she was never his priority, then he broke up with her and started dating other woman, I kept telling her that she deserves better but yesterday she tells me that he saw her what's all status, this is very annoying for me... But in real life, I don't advice people, I don't want her to f**k up and blame me for it, jo karna hai karo #YOLO

Anahi bitiya, you know it wasn't for you, it was a generic comment about how people are talking about Mauli, when I see MauHaan fans s**t shaming her and now selling her for 2rs, it just makes me point out that if Mauli is flawed so is Ishaan... None is perfect

If you remember when Kunal went to help Ishaan, Ishaan was talking about how Kunal is the reason for all these problems, how he would like to punch him? I loved when he did that, long awaited, last time Rajdeep hit him bahut maja aya the merko...
Mauli's self respect and self worth are being questioned, what kind of self respecting man will take help from wife's ex husband, who cheated on her to get her marry him?

I saw this penguin show on discovery Channel, male penguin didn't like when some other penguin was talking to his female penguin


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Attraction does lead to marriage and kids...
In India, people don't even date each other and their marriages are arranged, ie they don't even get a chance to get attracted to each other and marry but they have kids... He married Nandini in weird circumstances

Kunal's marriage to Nandini was not a well thought out decision, what led to his marriage was Rajdeep trying to kill Nandini, Rajdeep played a catalyst in their relationship, they never had a breathing room, they didn't get time to think about their relationship...

Nandini was in love with Kunal, the greatest husband but was he who she thought he was? Kunal got enamored of Nandini's beauty, her Saree and the fact that she needed him, it was a new experience for him, all his life he was surrounded by strong women, a weak needy Nandini was a new thing in his life, he kept helping her and he was attracted to her...there really wasn't any depth in their relationship, it was all very superficial...

Kunal seeing Mauli as an option after Nandini's death - Isn't that why I am saying that I want to see a scene of flashback where Kunal realizes that he can't live without Mauli but he can't leave Nandini because she is pregnant...

That negates the whole point of Kunal wanting Mauli back because Nandini is not with him anymore, he wanted to be with Mauli all along, he came back to India, he sees that Mauli has moved on and he did not meddle in her relationship...


okay!! so u feel there was no depth in their relationship.. i agree!! the base wasnt strong..
but he did spend a good life with her.. what about his monologues to nandini's picture??
what about his so many dialogues about nandini?? do u want me to write them all here?? there is no hint that he was stuck in his marriage with nandini.. rather he adored nandini..! why u want to dismiss all those dialogues?

i would want kunal to prove that his love wasnt as fake as it looked rather than wanting him to again look like a hypocrite by not valuing his relationship with nandini...

i dont care about chemistry but i do care about characters.. why further butchering of kunal?


If Nandini was alive.. She would have been an insecure wife, Maunal reunion was the story all along, even in promo they never hinted at Maunal not being together, in mock shoot videos, there was one video where Kunal tells Nandini that he can't live without Mauli, you can read the early interviews of channel or producer, they always stated that KuNan was an attraction, recently producer said in an interview that Mauli's one and only love is Kunal...

The story was always about Maunal finding their way back to each other, channel meddled and they had to change the story here and there

off screen , off screen off screen!! again off screen.. !! i am sorry i cant discuss off screen things. for me what they show in story is the actual story..
i dont mix off screen things with on screen. i dont mix actors and characters..

but still for ur point i give u my point ,in promos it looked like kunal and nandini will not hurt mauli and the pure bonds of friendship and marriage will sustain..
i never brings this point ! but this is a point, kunan happened despite of those promos which are actually a part of show (not even off screen thing)
whay they will show in the serial will be the story for me as a viewer , not their interviews.!

I don't understand what's regressive about a woman choosing a man she loves, if he is repenting and regretting his life choices?

lol. i tell u.. what if rajdeep comes back to nandini after doing all the paaps and nandini accepts him back?? just bcz kunal didnt force his wife and didnt slap her , he is still eligible to re-marry her?
mauli may not be called regressive but this story as a whole is regressive where a woman chooses her husband again after so many insults.. for audience this is regressive!
and what is kunal repentence??
my wife is dead so i realised that i still love u??
fruity ur whole point is based on the fact that kunal will say he was stuck in his marriage..
lets see if this happens or not..
then we will discuss what is kunal's regrets.

Chalo change the genders of characters..

If Mauli was the one to cheat and Kunal the one to accept her back, it would have been progressive?

Do understand that Mauli is NOT accepting his cheating, she is not accepting his lies, his deceit,... She is accepting his apology, she is accepting that he has changed and he won't do this again...

Kunal won't do it again, didn't you see Mehek hitting on Kunal and Kunal saying that he has had enough?

lol mehek isnt hitting on him.. 😆 please dont use mehek's card !!
kunal may or may not do this again!! there is no gaurantee of this guy, but my point is why should mauli choose him??
for what?? for love?? kaunsa love??
i want an explanation from mauli..
i cant even imagine the dialogues mauli would say in her support.. thats why i dont think maunal is a possibility..
it feels like wasting energy for something which i dont even find happening..


If Mauli chooses to live with Kunal or Ishaan, it's her choice, there's nothing progressive or regressive in a relationship

Regressive would be Mauli accepting Kunal's cheating, but that's what I don't want her to do, that's why I want Kunal to say that he never loved Nandini, he simply never had the time to think this through, his relationship with Nandini was pushed by Rajdeep and Nandini, that's why I want him to regret and repent...

Even if they don't reunite, I want him to repent leaving Mauli



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Mauli has no control over what Ishaan's mother demand of her, so she has no control over what Ishaan will do if he gets to know that how bizarre his mother's demand was to Mauli, and she has no control over Ishaan's mom, basically this situation is not something she can control

But Ishaan had a choice, he is not a child, he should know that you don't take help of cheater husbands to woo their ex wives, Ishaan did lie to her, Ishaan allowed Kunal to help him, he was so happy with the knowledge of Mauli's cheater husband saying that none knows Mauli more than him...

Ishaan was wrong when he took Kunal's help, then he was wrong when he didn't tell Mauli about the truth before getting engaged to her again

I don't dislike him or anything, if you have seen my list of likes, I do like Ishaan more so because he remembered that Mauli needs time, I am not against MauHaan, I am just saying that I will accept whatever Mauli decides is best for her life...

My friend is in love with this guy, she was never his priority, then he broke up with her and started dating other woman, I kept telling her that she deserves better but yesterday she tells me that he saw her what's all status, this is very annoying for me... But in real life, I don't advice people, I don't want her to f**k up and blame me for it, jo karna hai karo #YOLO

Anahi bitiya, you know it wasn't for you, it was a generic comment about how people are talking about Mauli, when I see MauHaan fans s**t shaming her and now selling her for 2rs, it just makes me point out that if Mauli is flawed so is Ishaan... None is perfect

If you remember when Kunal went to help Ishaan, Ishaan was talking about how Kunal is the reason for all these problems, how he would like to punch him? I loved when he did that, long awaited, last time Rajdeep hit him bahut maja aya the merko...
Mauli's self respect and self worth are being questioned, what kind of self respecting man will take help from wife's ex husband, who cheated on her to get her marry him?

I saw this penguin show on discovery Channel, male penguin didn't like when some other penguin was talking to his female penguin



i get ur point fruity..
but let me tell u ishaali/mauhaan fans are not actually ishaali fans but mauli fans.

what will u call me?? ishaali fan or mauli fan or both??
i was a mauli fan. didnt want a lead for her. as i was done with mushy romance. this isnt a show where i would want mushy romance.
ishaan came.. he was more than a lover boy.. i liked ishaali..
loved them.. and finally fell for ishaan.. it was gradual.. but i am not irked bcz i am an ishaali fan and this is the reason i dont want maunal..

no! there are only very veru very few fans who are kinshuk based who want ishaali and even they arent bashing her for their uterior motives..
its WE mauli fans who want her not to choose kunal. so please dont say that ishaali fans are calling her regressive.. nope!!
i am a mauli fan first and i will call out to her if she makes a wrong choice..

choices do decide what kind of a person we are.! so if mauli says no matter what i just love kunal then i will not like her for sure..

about ishaan taking mauli's help-- pheww!! i will be going in circles.. i told u when mauli has no issues with kunal then why ishaan is supposed not to take help from kunal?? that too when he is just manaoing her , its just manana!!
ishaan isnt an insecure person until mauli gives him some hints about her liking for kunal..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Anahi
Yahi to Bol rahi hu bhai, that I won't accept Maunal if they don't show that kunal wasn't happy with Nandini, that's my condition
If they show that he was happy with Nandini or in love with Nandini, then Maunal is a NO for me... It was very clear for me

Rajdeep was a criminal, he raped Nandini, he tortured her... These are serious crimes, Extramarital affair is not a crime, at least not anymore... There can be redemption for Kunal, Maunal or no Maunal but there can't be redemption for a rapist, I can't even think along the lines of someone forgiving a rapist


Remember that scene when Mehek said something about getting a man like Kunal in her life and Kunal said No no bus ho gaya, I was referring to that and anyway if Maunal come together, writer won't show Kunal cheating on her again, that's given
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

@Anahi

Yahi to Bol rahi hu bhai, that I won't accept Maunal if they don't show that kunal wasn't happy with Nandini, that's my condition
If they show that he was happy with Nandini or in love with Nandini, then Maunal is a NO for me... It was very clear for me

kunal ki bahut dhualai hogi usne yeh sb kaha jo aap keh rhe ho..!! 😆 poora twitter/insta hil jaega. nandini fans jane nhi dege use.. !! 😆
in fact mauli fans like me will make long posts on him here.. main to keh rhi hu mauli bhi sunaegi use ache se.. 😆 anyways lets wait and see kya hota hai..

Rajdeep was a criminal, he raped Nandini, he tortured her... These are serious crimes, Extramarital affair is not a crime, at least not anymore... There can be redemption for Kunal, Maunal or no Maunal but there can't be redemption for a rapist, I can't even think along the lines of someone forgiving a rapist

legally it isnt a crime but itsnt no less than any crime.. i agree redemption for kunal was possible but we have different meaning of redemption.
mauli accepting kunal back was more than OK for me when he came for the baby. my posts are there in the forum. but after living a good life with nandini , having a baby with her and now he is back bcz he is alone then i dont want him back..

Remember that scene when Mehek said something about getting a man like Kunal in her life and Kunal said No no bus ho gaya, I was referring to that and anyway if Maunal come together, writer won't show Kunal cheating on her again, that's given

yeah i know what u meant.. kunal was not liking her praises as he doesnt consider himself a person for whom a girl can fall for 😆
they wont show him cheating her again but the sorrow he is gonna bring in her life is something that i dont want for her..
just replied about this in some other thread..
anyways. lets keep this discussion for kunalji's reasons for falling for mauli again..
😆


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