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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

@mango_pudding1 - I agree with pamk06, Rajdeep is playing mind games with Mauli. He has already tried to character- assassinate Nandini, so no one will anyways believe him without proof. Also, I think he is taking pleasure in this slow torture that he is doing to Mauli. A seed of doubt has already been planted in her mind and I think she will start to look at Kunal and Nandini with new eyes. Rajdeep is shrewd and not always a joker.


In yesterday's epi, the whole dance competition thing was such a bore. Who on earth keeps that kind of competition for Ganesh Utsav? Nandini's dance was still a little classical in nature but that white sari womam was dancing like Raveena Tandon in the song tip tip barsa paani
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The bits I liked in yesterday's episode was obviously Nandini's guilt and Kunal Bhaiyya's blatant lying. Nandini has snapped out of that trance like state at least temporarily. And like another member mentioned here , they are focussing on Nandini's wringing hands every now and then. I really hope this is something to do with her anxiety and trauma and the makers will address it.

Kunal's blatant lying is making him look like a grey character now and that is how it should be. But I also want to see him disturbed because of this duality that he has to maintain. For someone like Kunal who is not used to this kind of deception, these things should be difficult and I want to see all this taking a toll on him. But he still doesn't worry about Mauli, does he? He looked like he was in a daze when Mauli was hugging him and saying all that. Does he even feel a little bad for her? If he were to look at her once with some pain etched on his face and thinking, " what am I doing to you?" that would have worked for me. I still find it so hard to believe that he can fall out of love with Mauli so easily and so quickly.





Seriously, who dances that way in a society function that too a religious one.

Regarding Kunal, I nitially, I thought he was finally seeing how his actions will impact his family but then we see him enjoying the dance. I would have preferred that he feels guilty and trying to avoid the dance but is unable to do so, it would have shown his struggle inside.

Well, anyways, on a separate note, he is going to suffer. If he is with Nandini, they will bring her mental health issue which he will have to deal with it or he will have to live alone. What do you guys think, will they keep Kunal and Nandini together or will they show three separate journeys?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@pamk06 - everything is going at super speed; . think kunal and nandini will stay together for now but whether it will be long term, it is hard to say
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@pamk06 - There are many spoilers doing the rounds. Based on those and Kunal's attitude in today's episode, he is going to be with Nandini, unless of course Nandini says no to it, but that looks doubtful. And with Rajdeep still on the lose (the restraining order is not really restraining him LOL!) I don't think Kunal will abandon her.

Now, sharing my thoughts and observations about today's episode here. You guys, please feel free to comment and share your thoughts.

Mauli kept passing test after test of trust, while Kunal and Nandini were busy blowing the same trust to smithereens. The makers really rubbed it in by showing a distraught Mauli coming close to doubting the two most important people in her life, but immediately stopping herself and berating herself for it. Aditi was really good today!! Such a nuanced portrayal of Mauli's conflicting thoughts, fears and vulnerabilities. She didn't have a lot of scope to present her acting capabilities earlier, but today I was surprised by her performance.


Mauli's refusal to doubt them initially was keeping in line with her character (she loves fiercely and trusts fiercely) but somewhere I also felt that deep down she feared that that if she starts acting on her suspicion then it would become true. Practically and logically though, she did have every reason to doubt them.


Moving on, I am not sure what to think of Nandini's guilt. Her guilt was triggered all of a sudden, because, with the previous day's happenings, she sensed that Mauli was looking at them differently, not because she was affected by how much Mauli loves Kunal and that losing Kunal would be devastating for her.

And she also clearly said , " hum jaante hai hum usse dhoka de rahe hai which amounts to an acknowledgement that she is aware of what she is doing, but she's too deeply involved to turn back or retract.


Kunal continues to baffle me. When he is with Nandini, he acts as though he almost resents Mauli, there is absolutely no acknowledgement of the fact that he is doing wrong to her. When he said, he wouldn't have been able to lie more if Mauli had questioned him again , I was slightly taken aback by the defiance reflecting on his face. It actually looked like his marriage with Mauli had been a complete disaster and that he resented her, so he doesn't really care how Mauli reacts to it. This guy is extremely confusing, so if you guys have a different interpretation of this please tell me.


I was a little irritated by the heavy build up of suspense, but it was an eventful episode. The makers really went all out on this one. They even brought that good old friend of Kunal whom he had lectured once for cheating on his wife. And that guy who apparently has corrected his ways now, somehow plays a part in Mauli actually finding out about KuNan, and all this happening under the watchful eyes of Lord Ganesha. Sweet Karma? Irony of life? Makers trying to redeem themselves? My God! They have to have the God element in everything!!😆


Now coming to the impractical thing that can happen only in daily soaps. A man and a woman hugging in the middle of a religious festival and that too in this day and age where people are so eager to capture everything on their mobile phones.😃


I also wonder how Kunal never gets paranoid about Mauli checking his phone. He never worried about stuff like that. And Nandini also has never worried about Mauli picking her call or reading her messages on Kunal's phone. How illogical and impractical is that? But no point talking about it now, as the cat is already out of the bag.


We should now get ready for Mauli's wrath now and Kunal's seena-thaan-ke proclamation of his love for Nandini. Seriously, this man has no conflicting emotions!! Its like, all those years of his life with Mauli was washed out the moment he fell for Nandini.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@pamk06 - everything is going at super speed; . think kunal and nandini will stay together for now but whether it will be long term, it is hard to say


This story ran faster than a bullet train. Realization, confession, consummation and the revelation all happened within two months. Not complaining at all though 😆

Hopefully, Mauli will kick Kunal out and not take him back based on family pressure. I would be very mad at her, if she does that.

Gosh, how I wish Nandini just buckles up now and takes a stand. Where did that lady go who told Rajdeep off when he tried fooling her again or was strong enough to tell Kunal to let her go?

And, If they show Kunal wanting to go to Mauli, I would be seriously done especially when they pushed that whole fated love story again and again to us.

Finally the train has wrecked, now time to see the impacts and how it changes lives. I ,so want to see the journey of these three characters separately, how they pick up the pieces of their life after this wreck and if they are successful.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

@pamk06 - There are many spoilers doing the rounds. Based on those and Kunal's attitude in today's episode, he is going to be with Nandini, unless of course Nandini says no to it, but that looks doubtful. And with Rajdeep still on the lose (the restraining order is not really restraining him LOL!) I don't think Kunal will abandon her.

I want her to abandon Kunal. That should be her character trait that they showed us. His character trait is to not let her go and fight for her, especially as he is giving away so much for her and is now committed to her. If she tells him and go, he will never let her go so she has to do it without telling him thus breaking him and herself as they broke Mauli. May be it will happen after the whole "society shaming them with Rajdeep help" episodes that they will be showing us now (Gosh, how I hate those) Hopefully they show her journey of redemption and not to the mental hospital😆


Now, sharing my thoughts and observations about today's episode here. You guys, please feel free to comment and share your thoughts.

Mauli kept passing test after test of trust, while Kunal and Nandini were busy blowing the same trust to smithereens. The makers really rubbed it in by showing a distraught Mauli coming close to doubting the two most important people in her life, but immediately stopping herself and berating herself for it. Aditi was really good today!! Such a nuanced portrayal of Mauli's conflicting thoughts, fears and vulnerabilities. She didn't have a lot of scope to present her acting capabilities earlier, but today I was surprised by her performance.


Mauli's refusal to doubt them initially was keeping in line with her character (she loves fiercely and trusts fiercely) but somewhere I also felt that deep down she feared that that if she starts acting on her suspicion then it would become true. Practically and logically though, she did have every reason to doubt them.

Seriously, that girl is so trusting. My heart was breaking for her today and for the innocence that would be robbed from her for ever. I guess she was in denial mode and as I said earlier, it had to be red-handed for her to believe. But, as you say, it was in line with her character.I do admire her self-control though. I would have checked my husband's phone and I do that regularly even though I have no reason to doubt him. Here the red -flag was kicking her in the face and still she decides to trust him. She was totally in denial mode.

Lesson learned, do not trust a person so much that it blinds you to everything. I think, that clinic would be her journey. She would open it for herself and her in-laws will support her


Moving on, I am not sure what to think of Nandini's guilt. Her guilt was triggered all of a sudden, because, with the previous day's happenings, she sensed that Mauli was looking at them differently, not because she was affected by how much Mauli loves Kunal and that losing Kunal would be devastating for her.

And she also clearly said , " hum jaante hai hum usse dhoka de rahe hai which amounts to an acknowledgement that she is aware of what she is doing, but she's too deeply involved to turn back or retract.

<font color="#000099">Even I was surprised , that she was guilty because she thought Mauli might have a doubt of their realtionship, not for breaking Mauli's house. I was like "What, where is Nandini and who is this person" Total character assassination. I guess this is the gap that we were cribbing about. Where is that conversation, where they have made peace with the fact that, they know they might break Mauli's heart and are Ok with it. Frankly, they have changed her character completely. I think they are going the insecure, mental illness route. (Hopefully they stick to the original plot else mujhe usse ek</font>from an abused women to a<font color="#000099">strong career women , dekne ka sapna, sapna hi reh jayega😭 )</font>

Kunal continues to baffle me. When he is with Nandini, he acts as though he almost resents Mauli, there is absolutely no acknowledgement of the fact that he is doing wrong to her. When he said, he wouldn't have been able to lie more if Mauli had questioned him again , I was slightly taken aback by the defiance reflecting on his face. It actually looked like his marriage with Mauli had been a complete disaster and that he resented her, so he doesn't really care how Mauli reacts to it. This guy is extremely confusing, so if you guys have a different interpretation of this please tell me.

I saw it a little differently. I think he is not used to lying or deceiving and in his own words he cannot so if Mauli would have confronted him, he would have admitted to his feelings.</font>
<font color="#000099">I think the moment he decided to confess to Nandini, he broke all his relationship with Mauli in his heart. I do not think he is even thinking, in terms of marriage or years with Mauli.. That all happened before the confession in the "Kyun kunal kyun" phase. As soon as he decided, from that point on, nothing matters to him other than his feelings for Nandini. Currently,Nandini is his world and for her, he can go to any lengths. His feelings are intense and the intensity was shown to us thrice, first was confession and second time in the garden (where he was going to take step back but could not), and third was his fight with Rajdeep.

Again,that missing conversation would have been the key to understand why he decided to play this hide and seek game. Might be because he did not want to hurt Mauli because when Mauli was telling him about her feelings and fear, he did look shock and disturbed, not in the sense that his feelings are wrong for Nandini, but in the sense that he is doing wrong to Mauli. Now, we will never know.
If they stick to the original plan, then his redemption would have been his separation from Nandini and his family like KANK but now as they made this Mauli's story, I think once, truth is revealed to Mauli, he might get a big reality check of what he is done and then his bubble will burst and he will start regretting his decision regarding Nandini. Like his friend he might try to reconcile.

I was a little irritated by the heavy build up of suspense, but it was an eventful episode. The makers really went all out on this one. They even brought that good old friend of Kunal whom he had lectured once for cheating on his wife. And that guy who apparently has corrected his ways now, somehow plays a part in Mauli actually finding out about KuNan, and all this happening under the watchful eyes of Lord Ganesha. Sweet Karma? Irony of life? Makers trying to redeem themselves? My God! They have to have the God element in everything!!😆

They were killing time. They had to build four one-hour episode instead of half an hour, and they can only do only so many scenes in a day especiallyas they are almost cut to cut with shootings. Hence so many editing glitches. Hence we were seeing all these dances etc as that is easy then scene-shoot and can cover more time in the episode.


Now coming to the impractical thing that can happen only in daily soaps. A man and a woman hugging in the middle of a religious festival and that too in this day and age where people are so eager to capture everything on their mobile phones.😃


I also wonder how Kunal never gets paranoid about Mauli checking his phone. He never worried about stuff like that. And Nandini also has never worried about Mauli picking her call or reading her messages on Kunal's phone. How illogical and impractical is that? But no point talking about it now, as the cat is already out of the bag.

Even I was thinking the same thing, They have been so lenient in their conversations, meetings etc. One is so careful when they are doing EMA. I have seen people do what not, to cover themselves, Buying separate phones, change the name on the contact list is the bare minimum but here, it was like they did not care. May be because it was God-Blessed, they knew they will be savedand the irony, as soon as he tells I would have told Mauli the truth, God blesses them with the opportunity.🤣. On a serious note, I did like the whole revelation scene that they did. Very symbolic.


We should now get ready for Mauli's wrath now and Kunal's seena-thaan-ke proclamation of his love for Nandini. Seriously, this man has no conflicting emotions!! Its like, all those years of his life with Mauli was washed out the moment he fell for Nandini.

@bold: I hope it so huge that its break these two to the core.

@bold2: If he does not admit his mistake, then he would be biggest coward in ITV.

@bold3: We will start seeing them now once Mauli kicks him out of his life.





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PS: Do you think they will go for leap or will they go for Phase 2? I am asking because I doubt Shakti and DD will agree to be second leads.

Edited by pamk06 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

@pamk06 - There are many spoilers doing the rounds. Based on those and Kunal's attitude in today's episode, he is going to be with Nandini, unless of course Nandini says no to it, but that looks doubtful. And with Rajdeep still on the lose (the restraining order is not really restraining him LOL!) I don't think Kunal will abandon her.

Now, sharing my thoughts and observations about today's episode here. You guys, please feel free to comment and share your thoughts.

Mauli kept passing test after test of trust, while Kunal and Nandini were busy blowing the same trust to smithereens. The makers really rubbed it in by showing a distraught Mauli coming close to doubting the two most important people in her life, but immediately stopping herself and berating herself for it. Aditi was really good today!! Such a nuanced portrayal of Mauli's conflicting thoughts, fears and vulnerabilities. She didn't have a lot of scope to present her acting capabilities earlier, but today I was surprised by her performance.


Mauli's refusal to doubt them initially was keeping in line with her character (she loves fiercely and trusts fiercely) but somewhere I also felt that deep down she feared that that if she starts acting on her suspicion then it would become true. Practically and logically though, she did have every reason to doubt them.


Moving on, I am not sure what to think of Nandini's guilt. Her guilt was triggered all of a sudden, because, with the previous day's happenings, she sensed that Mauli was looking at them differently, not because she was affected by how much Mauli loves Kunal and that losing Kunal would be devastating for her.

And she also clearly said , " hum jaante hai hum usse dhoka de rahe hai which amounts to an acknowledgement that she is aware of what she is doing, but she's too deeply involved to turn back or retract.


Kunal continues to baffle me. When he is with Nandini, he acts as though he almost resents Mauli, there is absolutely no acknowledgement of the fact that he is doing wrong to her. When he said, he wouldn't have been able to lie more if Mauli had questioned him again , I was slightly taken aback by the defiance reflecting on his face. It actually looked like his marriage with Mauli had been a complete disaster and that he resented her, so he doesn't really care how Mauli reacts to it. This guy is extremely confusing, so if you guys have a different interpretation of this please tell me.


I was a little irritated by the heavy build up of suspense, but it was an eventful episode. The makers really went all out on this one. They even brought that good old friend of Kunal whom he had lectured once for cheating on his wife. And that guy who apparently has corrected his ways now, somehow plays a part in Mauli actually finding out about KuNan, and all this happening under the watchful eyes of Lord Ganesha. Sweet Karma? Irony of life? Makers trying to redeem themselves? My God! They have to have the God element in everything!!😆


Now coming to the impractical thing that can happen only in daily soaps. A man and a woman hugging in the middle of a religious festival and that too in this day and age where people are so eager to capture everything on their mobile phones.😃


I also wonder how Kunal never gets paranoid about Mauli checking his phone. He never worried about stuff like that. And Nandini also has never worried about Mauli picking her call or reading her messages on Kunal's phone. How illogical and impractical is that? But no point talking about it now, as the cat is already out of the bag.


We should now get ready for Mauli's wrath now and Kunal's seena-thaan-ke proclamation of his love for Nandini. Seriously, this man has no conflicting emotions!! Its like, all those years of his life with Mauli was washed out the moment he fell for Nandini.



Lovely post. They showed it so well how Mauli was fighting the demons from within not
allowing doubt to continue inspite of evidence coming up from all sides. Her character
stands out so much as against the ones who have stamped over her love for them. Love
the way you pointed it out so well.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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@pamk06 @summerrain7 -- mouli's acting was very well done as it was all in the eyes and expressions. actually that way, this drama is really stretching all 3 of the actors abilities because the CVs are not giving them enough dialogues. instead it is all about expression which in a way can be confusing for us viewers.

as for kunal, his defiance was interesting. think the moment he decided to give his hand to nandini, he had already decided that come what may, this is the path he chooses. so hence, his lack of guilt or confusion. he was basically biding his time to perhaps figure out the dynamics of the future but he had already decided to be with nandini the moment he made a vow of love.

neither really made much efforts to hide their affair because neither felt the need for secrecy. sure, there are a few pangs here and then when confronted with outsiders potentially finding but these two have accepted their fate so to speak. at least we knew that he had already decided that he was going to break the bubble if mouli asks again.

as for nandini, seeing mouli's hurt looks was the first eye opener that this is a potential train wreck. thats why she starts immediately wringing her hands stressed and overwhelmed. as usual, when she looks like she wants to run, there is kunal dragging her back to him.

had to laugh when rajdeep said that interval climax is not yet come. kekeke.. he does have some great lines. but wonder what his role will be further on. will he seek mouli out and try to instigate her to take revenge?
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Pamk06 & mango_pudding1 - I see that you both feel the same way about Kunal's lack of confusion and guilt - That the moment he accepted Nandini, mentally and emotionally he broke all ties with Mauli. In a fictional world, I think I can accept it, just like I accept the eccentricities (love at first sight and even proposal at first sight LOL) and extremities of a fictional love story. But in a real world, a man who was happy with his wife can never wipe her off from his heart and mind so easily, even if currently he feels he has no romantic feelings towards her. Also, this attitude of Kunal in a way, gives some credibility to his love for Nandini, otherwise he just becomes a weak man torn between his wife and his new found love.

So when I see it that way, and like you guys said, Kunal and Nandini not making any active effort to hide their affair or being careless about their meetings and communication, makes sense. Kunal also knew that it wouldn't be long before Mauli herself comes to him with the questions. It was only a matter of time.

Also, if Kunal and Nandini were to keep looking over their shoulders or take extra efforts to maintain secrecy, then that amounts to willful deception and the makers probably do not want the audience to think they are capable of that and it also won't be in line with the "saccha/pavitra pyaar" narrative.

In the real world though, (agree with Pamk06) the amount of shit people do keep it a secret is unbelievable!! Unlike our reel couple here, they are not so blessed.'


Pamk06 - Regarding your question on leap, it is quite possible. I think seeing Mauli's reaction there is going to be a lot of guilt and breaking down. Nandini may not go away immediately, or even if she does Kunal will stop her. But I believe at some point she will go away. She needs to have her own journey, otherwise it will be an injustice to her character and it will also reaffirm the fact that the makers never really wanted to addresses her abuse and was just using it to push her into Kunal's life.

So it can't be Mauli's journey alone going forward. It has to be all three of them dealing with the aftermath of this. This show has always been about all 3 of them, so it won't be Mauli's journey alone or KuNan's love story alone. But of course, TRP race has destroyed many a shows before, so can't completely rule out the possibility of a different approach.

PS - The funniest thing Rajdeep said yesterday, "Kaise baithe hai kabootar aur kabootri" 🤣 This man is super hilarious.

Edited by SummerRain7 - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SummerRain7


Pamk06 - Regarding your question on leap, it is quite possible. I think seeing Mauli's reaction there is going to be a lot of guilt and breaking down. Nandini may not go away immediately, or even if she does Kunal will stop her. But I believe at some point she will go away. She needs to have her own journey, otherwise it will be an injustice to her character and it will also reaffirm the fact that the makers never really wanted to addresses her abuse and was just using it to push her into Kunal's life.

So it can't be Mauli's journey alone going forward. It has to be all three of them dealing with the aftermath of this. This show has always been about all 3 of them, so it won't be Mauli's journey alone or KuNan's love story alone. But of course, TRP race has destroyed many a shows before, so can't completely rule out the possibility of a different approach.

PS - The funniest thing Rajdeep said yesterday, "Kaise baithe hai kabootar aur kabootri" 🤣 This man is super hilarious.


@summerrain7: So true. TRP has become the key of ITV and all stories end up becoming a repeat telecast of the "saas-bahu" saga. Let see what they have planned for this show. The good thing is this is on "Colors" and they are known for bold concepts. Let see what they have in store for us.

Rajdeep dialogue are just perfect and they just matches with his personality. Abinav really delivers them in a way that it seems natural and has the necessary impact. If only he would just stop with all this man-handling, then he would be perfect villian with morals 😆

@mango_pudding1: They have really gone over the top with this expressions thing. I guess its as much a test us as it is for the actor performing. Must say, they are doing a great job that we have been able to nail most of them and follow the story as they want us to see it for most part.

PS: Do you guys think that conversation in the cafe was that missing conversation about their intentions regarding each other and Mauli? Hence we see them as guilty but they are only guilty for hurting Mauli but not for having a relationship. Its almost seems as if they had already decided to live together, had already made peace with the fact that they were going hurt Mauli and were just bidding their time.


I have not seen the whole episode yet, so may be this might have been answered already but just wanted to put it there.





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@summerrain7: So true. TRP has become the key of ITV and all stories in the end becomes a repeat telecast of the "saas-bahu" saga. Let see what they have plan for this show. I, though, feel that they are sticking to original story because the leads do not seem to be worried at all.

Rajdeep dialogue are just perfect and they just with his personality. Abinav really delivers them in a way that it seems natural and has the necessary impact. If only he would just stop with all this man-handling, then he would be perfect villian with morals 😆

@mango_pudding1: They have really gone over the top with this expressions thing. I guess its as much a test us as it is for the actor performing. Must say, they are doing a great job that we have been able to nail most of them and follow the story as they want us to see it for most part.

PS: Do you guys think that conversation in the cafe was that missing conversation about their intentions regarding each other and Mauli? Hence we see them as guilty but they are only guilty for hurting Mauli but not for having a relationship. Its almost seems as if they had already decided to live together, had already made peace with the fact that they were going hurt Mauli and were just bidding their time.

I have not seen the whole episode yet, so may be this might have been answered already but just wanted to put it there.





I absolutely love Abhinav as Rajdeep. His dialogues when they aren't sexist are outright hilarious 😆 Didn't really like his dialogues today but quite liked his and DD 's performance in that scene. I don't know how they are going to take the story forward now that the EMA angle is over so fast. Probably Kunan realising they are not meant for each other and Kunal trying to reconcile with Mouli? There was some foreshadowing on it in the episode I felt.

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