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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Arshics


But Saras at that moment was not Kumud's husband, he was her would be brother in law, who is doing her and her fallen sister a favour by marrying her sister.

And if a man comes forward to accept a woman who has been tainted by getting kidnapped, his feet must be touched and he must be worshipped for this.

That was the message in that scene, they accepted society's allegation that kusum is maili, and so no man will accept such a woman.

And Saras deserves gratitude for being kind enough to marry such a girl.


Thank you Arshi for explaining that scene. I was scratching my head earlier.:-)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Arshics


But Saras at that moment was not Kumud's husband, he was her would be brother in law, who is doing her and her fallen sister a favour by marrying her sister.

And if a man comes forward to accept a woman who has been tainted by getting kidnapped, his feet must be touched and he must be worshipped for this.

That was the message in that scene, they accepted society's allegation that kusum is maili, and so no man will accept such a woman.

And Saras deserves gratitude for being kind enough to marry such a girl.


This makes it even more despicable, the earlier Kumud would have fought with the mudslinging maniacs and derided their allegations. So much character assassination to fit in such a cheap TRP stunt🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just to add my view on the whole TRP gimmick being discussed here.. I personally do not think, that its completely TRP influenced.. atleast the track is not..the treatment maybe. I say this because as far as I know the original novel also had Kumud compel SC to marry her sister.. Under what circumstances that had happened in the novel is something I don't know. But I am kinda happy that the way they have played it out in the show, we have a strong case to hope that atleast the ''Saras-Kusum'' marraige won't happen like it did in the novel. One is because of Danny and his whole track with Kusum which is the potential parallel track along side Saras and Kumud and also the treatment of Kusum's character.. Had she agreed to marry Saras to save her family's honor or her sister's sake, i would have been worried.. But here Kusum has come across as a grey character..selfish, obsessed and infatuated who does not care about anyone as long as she gets what she wants.. However, I would have loved to see Kumud more stronger..Its hard to relate to her character in this age..maybe back then it was normal for a girl to succumb to circumstances.. Not today, atleast not a girl like Kumud.. I completely agree with Arshi's view.. Her decision is very short sighted.. It can potentially ruin the relationship between the two brothers and her own relationship with Kusum forever.. How fair will it be for Kusum to have a husband who will never be able to love her? How fair will it be for Danny to see his love be with his own brother in the same house? and how fair is it for Saras to get into a marriage in which he can not commit himself with heart and mind? Its wrong in so many ways..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

Just to add my view on the whole TRP gimmick being discussed here.. I personally do not think, that its completely TRP influenced.. atleast the track is not..the treatment maybe. I say this because as far as I know the original novel also had Kumud compel SC to marry her sister.. Under what circumstances that had happened in the novel is something I don't know. But I am kinda happy that the way they have played it out in the show, we have a strong case to hope that atleast the ''Saras-Kusum'' marraige won't happen like it did in the novel. One is because of Danny and his whole track with Kusum which is the potential parallel track along side Saras and Kumud and also the treatment of Kusum's character.. Had she agreed to marry Saras to save her family's honor or her sister's sake, i would have been worried.. But here Kusum has come across as a grey character..selfish, obsessed and infatuated who does not care about anyone as long as she gets what she wants.. However, I would have loved to see Kumud more stronger..Its hard to relate to her character in this age..maybe back then it was normal for a girl to succumb to circumstances.. Not today, atleast not a girl like Kumud.. I completely agree with Arshi's view.. Her decision is very short sighted.. It can potentially ruin the relationship between the two brothers and her own relationship with Kusum forever.. How fair will it be for Kusum to have a husband who will never be able to love her? How fair will it be for Danny to see his love be with his own brother in the same house? and how fair is it for Saras to get into a marriage in which he can not commit himself with heart and mind? Its wrong in so many ways..


Hello Vaishali,

Have a look at Smrth's post regarding what prompted the book Kumud to "force" SC to marry Kusum. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/saraswatichandra/3835974/a-hero?pn=4
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tryforceful


Hello Vaishali,

Have a look at Smrth's post regarding what prompted the book Kumud to "force" SC to marry Kusum. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/saraswatichandra/3835974/a-hero?pn=4


Thank you Shrija. That was interesting.. So in the book, Kumud was actually contemplating a re-marriage before the crisis forced her to take the decision..Here, she seems far too self sacrificing or should I say self-destructive.. to the extent of looking foolish and dumb at times, to think along those lines..Kumud's character in the show has been played around with so much that its hard to understand her at times.. Like Reema says, maybe all this is required for the twists n turns in the story..I wish it could be more relatable.. For instance I have no clue how she can exercise her right on Saras to this extent in the name of love, yet does not feel any right or responsibility towards her sister who is clearly going on a wrong path..she needs counselling.. she needs someone to show her the light.. how is this Kumud different from Saubhagya devi then? It's like I don't want to hurt my loved ones by saying they are wrong, so I let them do wrong to solve the current crisis without thinking of the future repercussions.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR


Thank you Shrija. That was interesting.. So in the book, Kumud was actually contemplating a re-marriage before the crisis forced her to take the decision..Here, she seems far too self sacrificing or should I say self-destructive.. to the extent of looking foolish and dumb at times, to think along those lines..Kumud's character in the show has been played around with so much that its hard to understand her at times.. Like Reema says, maybe all this is required for the twists n turns in the story..I wish it could be more relatable.. For instance I have no clue how she can exercise her right on Saras to this extent in the name of love, yet does not feel any right or responsibility towards her sister who is clearly going on a wrong path..she needs counselling.. she needs someone to show her the light.. how is this Kumud different from Saubhagya devi then? It's like I don't want to hurt my loved ones by saying they are wrong, so I let them do wrong to solve the current crisis without thinking of the future repercussions.


Vaishali, yes. Kumud's character is now being strategically used by the creatives to garner TRPs. The more ridiculous she gets, the more melodrama, hence by virtue, more gratification points for all the hard work done off camera.

For all her stupid decisions she blames her kismet. When Pramad had burnt the factory down, she said she and her family don't believe/depend on kismet to affect their courage and determination. The same Kumud is now being shown to make preposterous decisions without consulting Saras/Badimaa and convinces herself with the easier explanation: I'm Destiny's favorite child. So yes, it looks like the writers don't *remember* what they wrote a few weeks back to connect the dots to give a believable narrative.

VC doesn't throw away Kalika/Pramad despite the *groundbreaking* revelation about the kidnapping. Sheesh, they don't even suspect that b%&$#*% 🤢 What moral values are these CVs showing? They now seem to know Pralika were a thing at BD's. And yet, those freeloaders are given a free pass. Saras and Danny get blamed for being a curse to the Desais.

Kumud wants him to marry her sister as though getting married is the only viable option for a woman tainted by a kidnapping scandal. Again, it's a serious case of victim blaming!

Of course, her phenomenally superior reasoning behind asking Saras to get married explained lucidly by you and Arshi ji.

She's disoriented by the continuous miseries in her life, but she doesn't seem to realize she's the maker of her own destiny, thanks to the wonderful writers of SC😃

This show has been mutilated beyond repair. Not even GR and Jenny can redeem it after Friday's episode.🤢
Edited by tryforceful - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: -sudha-

@Reemz

I always love your posts. They are a different, sensitive and gentler take on the episodes. When I start to watch an episode, I too am looking for the Saras-Kumud love- in passion or in pain.

But yesterdays episode was the first time in all these months, that I found that Kumuds dialogues and demand as a complete insult to Saras's love for her. His love for her is beyond everything, but in the name of drama, she has been portrayed as a selfish girl, for whom the only thing that matters his herself and her family.

The heart does go out to Saras-more than to Kumud...

The way the episode was going, when she bent down, in the last scene, I almost thought she was removing her payal, and I nearly died !!! 😊


But Sudha, she had already announced to kusum that and her family that Saras would be marrying kusum, that means from her side the decision has been made and he is already in her mind kusums future husband and her jeeja.

She has also already announced to Saras that her destiny is with pramaad.

In this situation, it is a sacrilege to keep the Payal. After all Saraswati ma's ashirwad also should belong to kusum, and Kumud who has chosen to be with pramaad who is now seemingly a good man should not wear another man's jewelry.

And in fact it should have been a Payal handing over scene and not a feet touching scene, because she has no right to touch the feet of Saras and I am sure had kusum as his soon to be wife seen it, she would have been extremely upset, and justifiably so. And Kumud cannot have anything to do with Saras having decided to remain pramaad's wife. In that context, even the feet touching was incorrect and an inappropriate gesture.

Another ill thought out decision by Kumud , or just a case of poor writing by cvs who just go by formula - tears + sacrifice = TRP.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Mitsu91

I'm with you..

I can't be angry at Kumud! She has been blamed over and over again for ruining the family's reputation and tolerating the kind of incidents that poor girl has suffered from, she just doesn't have the courage to bare anything else... She knows that she won't be able to live without Saras and that's why she is willing to risk it all in the hope to be his in the next destiny!!

Aaj bhagwaan ke saamne usne Saras ko apna bhagwaan banaya aur uske saamne jhuk gai... and despite of the anger, he couldn't let her fall apart! That's love... and it hurts!





I love their beautiful and pure relationship...

Krishna ki chaahe kitani hi Patniya ho, Meera chahe Krishna ki sabse badi bhakt ho.. par Krishna ka naam toh bas Radha ke sang hi judta aaya hai... aur hamesha ussi ke saath judega!

They are our Radha-Krishna! I'll love them forever!


Mitsu, one question, is it right for a married woman to feel Radha Krishna type worship for her sisters would be husband?

Because this scene happened after she has announced to kusum and her family that Saras is marrying kusum in a few minutes .

Kusum has already been told by her that Saras is hers.

She has also already told Saras that she plans to stay on with pramaad , and this time it is not an abusive wife beating pramaad, but a poor helpless dying pramaad.

So why should she be touching Saras's feet like that? The Radha Krishna parallel here is as sinful now as kusums meera Krishna was, when Saras was Kumud's.

Look at the pic above - this is a Mrs dharmadhikari with her future brother in law - these two look too intimate with each other, considering the relationship Kumud has now chosen for them.

the feet touching scene bothered me a lot, you know.

It was very very offensive to say the least. Look at the way he is holding her, and she is at this feet - a combination of reverence and physical intimacy that should no longer be evident between them,

Esp as it will destroy the very sister she is professing to protect.
Edited by Arshics - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: ginya

wow
rightly said Reemz ..we all knew of dis saras kusum drama but d best is dat dey r not married here
also d scene was very beautifull,rare,n said volumes...thing which r beyond thinking👏😊
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also der will be more drama after kusum-danny marriage b/w samud
and also i feel now dat it is d right tym for guman to enter d show😆..may be



Ginya, they are not married to each other, but Kumud is married to pramaad, and Saras in a few moments will be married to Kusum - what that scene speaks to me is that these two will continue to be together inspite of being married to pramaad and kusum , isn't that very very wrong dear?

Won't that be unethical and unfair and a paap?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rahuketu

Mitsu ke baad ek tumhaari hi post hai jo mujhe pasand aayi... Jahaa Saras ke saath-saath Kumud ke baare me bhi sochaa hai! 👏

Aur... Wo last scene... Kyaa kahu... Kehte hai ke bhagwaan ke saamne kisi aur ke pair chhoone nahi chaahiye... Usskaa matlab ye hotaa hai ke aap bhagwaan se bhi zyaadaa uss insaan ko badaa darjaa de rahe ho... Aur Kumud ne wo kiyaa...
Isske aagey ab main kyaa bolu???!!!! 😊


Rahul ji, aapse bhi ek hi sawaal.

Kya apni behen ke hone wale pati ke liye man main aisi bhavana rakhna uchit hai, woh bhi tab jab Kumud khud vivahit hai , aur apne pati ke saath rehne ka nirnay le chuki hai?

Kyon ki yahan uss pramaad ki baat nahi ho rahi Jo uss ko maarta tha

Yahan uss pramaad ki baat bhi nahin ho rahi Jo 15 din main Marne wala hai aur sirf antim pal ka Sahara Maang raha hai

Yahan uss pramaad ki baat ho rahi hai Jo ab sudhar chuka hai, Kumud ka legal pati hai, Kumud ke prati apne pyaar ka elaan kar chuka hai aur apne ilaaj ke kiye America ja raha - aise main Kumud ka kya kartavya hai?

Saras ki pooja ya pramaad ke prati patni dharma?

Yahan sawaal kusum ka bhi hai

Uss kusum ka nahin Jo apni behen ke jeevan saathi se prem karti hai,

Balki uss kusum ka, jisse Kumud ne vishvas di laya hai ki Saras se uska vivah hone ko hai

Kusum ko Saras ki ardhangini banane ka adhikar de chuki hai woh

Apni behen ke hone wale pati ke prati iss prakar ki astha rakhna kya paap nahi hai?
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