Is it wrong to film backstage? - Page 4

Originally posted by: punjini

In Poonam's case, the facts came to light only after she got eliminated. Point is, I don't think anyone has to sign a contract saying that they have to sell themselves for two years as Qwestda alleged. They have every right to guard their privacy, and they must openly protest if they feel their rights have been violated. If they don't protest, it means they have no problem.

yes. i also think the channels are in a catch-22. if they keep it all musical, they apparently dont get enough audiences. it's hard to get someone to spend their hard-earned money unless they feel some personal connection with the contestant. it's just not enuff to say there is a niche audience that likes clean shows. and that's what leads channels down this path. i also dont feel anyone wld be complaining if their contestant won. but i think it is too simplistic to say that while the competition is on, that the contestants are not too happy with all the extra votes they generate... Just when things dont pan out their way, they feel upset and lash out at everything.

Originally posted by: chatbuster

yes. i also think the channels are in a catch-22. if they keep it all musical, they apparently dont get enough audiences. it's hard to get someone to spend their hard-earned money unless they feel some personal connection with the contestant. it's just not enuff to say there is a niche audience that likes clean shows. and that's what leads channels down this path. i also dont feel anyone wld be complaining if their contestant won. but i think it is too simplistic to say that while the competition is on, that the contestants are not too happy with all the extra votes they generate... Just when things dont pan out their way, they feel upset and lash out at everything.

CBji, don't you think you are being dubious in what you say? You repeatedly objected before to the fact that "Garibi" AV should not be shown since it generates lot of sympathy votes for someone.Now you are advocating for the channel that it's a part of the game to keep the show popular. So, you accept that everything must be shown. Why not? After all the contestant is out. Had he been in, aap ko sayad abhi bhi aitraaz hota AV dekhaney se. Agar backstage drama bhi ek reality tha, unsab ka halat bhi ek reality tha. Now in the first place the contestants never urge the channel to show their "Garibi" or any "Majboori". It's more in the interest of the channel.

Originally posted by: Bhaskar.T

Maya take the above case. The contestant wanted to keep that part away from public glare but channel house sent the reports to media with the Ph Nos. of the PR of these contestants. So that quotes from Poonam can be taken. The girl was livid when called by media. How fair is that on the part of Channel house then? Did they really do it just keeping the Poonam help factor in mind or was TRP/Money also a part of the thought process for such an act.

Bhaskar, About Poonam's case that you mentioned, I believe that channel cannot force Poonam's mother to talk. Mother spoke and very well indeed. She didn't go over the top with her gareebi thing. I still think such AVs are unnecessary but as I said you can't force people to talk but if people choose to say then channel will use it to their advantage. It is a two-way game. If some people are eager to talk to media or say inflammatory comments on microphone then which channel these days would cut that part? This is sure shot taking them way up in TRPs. We audience too contribute to it by watching and discussing it.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

CBji, don't you think you are being dubious in what you say? You repeatedly objected before to the fact that "Garibi" AV should not be shown since it generates lot of sympathy votes for someone.Now you are advocating for the channel that it's a part of the game to keep the show popular. So, you accept that everything must be shown. Why not? After all the contestant is out. Had he been in, aap ko sayad abhi bhi aitraaz hota AV dekhaney se. Agar backstage drama bhi ek reality tha, unsab ka halat bhi ek reality tha. Now in the first place the contestants never urge the channel to show their "Garibi" or any "Majboori". It's more in the interest of the channel.

if u notice carefully, i am not advocating. i am "explaining". world of a difference between the two. sorry if u keep missing the punch lines.😆

btw, the question that was raised was whether we shld cover backstage. Assumes that we are already airing non-musical aspects, at least the packaged AVs. In those circumstances, why shld we be satisfied with the PR material? We do like to see our singers perform live, dont we? So why not their actual behavior too, so that we can judge better? if folks are going to vote based on some sob story AV, then they shld also know if they are being conned.

and since u did get more specific here than the topic starter asked for, lemme just say i was earlier "advocating" they dont bring in anything extra-curricular, but the hafeez suppoorters didnt agree, did they? now, why the sudden distaste for personal revelations?😛😆

so take your pick- keep it all musical, or bring it all in. but let's not be selectively editing out some of the fun stuff when unlike the AV, it doesnt work for your contestant. 😉😆

Originally posted by: chatbuster

if folks are going to vote based on some sob story AV, then they shld also know if they are being conned.

so take your pick- keep it all musical, or bring it all in. but let's not be selectively editing out some of the fun stuff when unlike the AV, it doesnt work for your contestant. 😉😆

Originally posted by: chatbuster

if u notice carefully, i am not advocating. i am "explaining". world of a difference between the two. sorry if u keep missing the punch lines.😆

"Explaining" for the channel's action- don't you think that's a kind of advocay?😉

btw, the question that was raised was whether we shld cover backstage. Assumes that we are already airing non-musical aspects, at least the packaged AVs. In those circumstances, why shld we be satisfied with the PR material? We do like to see our singers perform live, dont we? So why not their actual behavior too, so that we can judge better? if folks are going to vote based on some sob story AV, then they shld also know if they are being conned.

I thought now you are okay with cameras invading everywhere for the reality. Before you shared some other view.

What is there to be conned? A poor family is a poor family. Public was never being lashed out for the elimination, infact after all that happened people(his fans/voters) are still sympathetic to him.

and since u did get more specific here than the topic starter asked for, lemme just say i was earlier "advocating" they dont bring in anything extra-curricular, but the hafeez suppoorters didnt agree, did they? now, why the sudden distaste for personal revelations?😛😆

so take your pick- keep it all musical, or bring it all in. but let's not be selectively editing out some of the fun stuff when unlike the AV, it doesnt work for your contestant. 😉😆

I am only for music. I know where I stand. I don't wish to encourage the masala stuff, be it AV or Backstage drama, for any contestant.

Originally posted by: Bhaskar.T

@CB & Maya

I fully agree with your points. They did it with full permission and also that the AV helped Poonam too. But thats not what I was pointing out.

It is the adoption part that I was referring to. That part Poonam had asked the channel house not to release. But they went ahead with it.

As to taking permission of Poonam's mother or anyone in such an economical state there's many more other factors beside permission. In the present society that we are in do you all seriously believe Poonam's mother would have the guts to say no to Channel house people? Nope... Yes what she says will be her own and there she made sure not to bring the poverty problem of theirs. She had stuck to Poonam and her love for music.

Bhaskar, That was in poor taste if channel went ahead even after Poonam asked them not to. But how did channel learn about the adoption part?

Still on the subject I agree that a lady like Poonam's mother doesn't have the guts to stand against channel but look at the words she spoke. She never made any inciting claims even when her daughter got voted out she said the same thing as in AV. What I am saying is even when channel asks family members for opinion, the words are family's so they should own up and not blame media and channel for showing that to viewers.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

"Explaining" for the channel's action- don't you think that's a kind of advocay?😉

i dont know if i am supposed to be running a vocab thing here. so can we give this a pass?😆

I thought now you are okay with cameras invading everywhere for the reality. Before you shared some other view.

beats me how u make the deductions here.😕 cld u try re-reading what i have?😆

What is there to be conned? A poor family is a poor family. Public was never being lashed out for the elimination, infact after all that happened people(his fans/voters) are still sympathetic to him.

it certainly helps here to know how the clan behaved when they thought they had someting to gain, and how they later lashed out when they thought they did not. helps folks who were sitting on the fence make up their minds about them. also helps other viewers get smarter next time around too.😉

let's not pretend also that the interest in these people was only for the duration of the show. they made news, sometimes for the wrong musical reasons if u ask me. 😆so any channel wld have to cover them. just too much tadap out there for them than might have been warranted on plain musical grounds😉 😆

I am only for music. I know where I stand. I don't wish to encourage the masala stuff, be it AV or Backstage drama, for any contestant.

maybe u cld have spoken up earlier when the AV was aired?😉😆

btw, if u have any more questions on the hafeez saga, cld we take it to the opinion thread instead?