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Posted: 18 years ago
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First of all - EXCELLENT POSTING Anu!

Aneek: feelings: sings with genuine feelings. notes: great low notes, high notes - just a little under. 'throws' the words with great clarity. gives importance to variations. Needs to concentrate more on singing and less on performance. he's already a singer

Poonam: feelings: you have to listen to Vande, best song ever sung on S, notes: great high notes, variations: doesn't cut corners and sings each syllable with original taal, diction: each word is thrown with superb clarity - they just pierce through. Needs to rest her voice before she sings

Difference between Amanat and Aneek: check out them singing the same song (start at 2:00)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6D75o8iXWHM

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: T.

I'm having trouble pinning down my choice here as well. If I completely ignore voice quality, Aneek and Amanat are the strongest in terms of technique.

I agree to your point.But can I ask you is technically correct the only criteria to be a successful singer unless you have a good voice quality.

Do you think Aneek's pronounciation of hindi and punjabi words are upto the mark?

Please hear is apne song where there are little punjabi and pure hindi words.

Secondly Amanat is technically correct but I feel when it comes to high pitching or singing the songs fast his voice doesnt come out louder even if he tries.

Thirdly if a singer has voice and he knows about music he can correct himself technically in times to come.It will just require riyaz and a good GURU to correct himself.

So now say who is the best among the contestents and who is going to get success in Indian music industry in times to come.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Amanat needs to work on diction.I also feel he is not upto the mark when singing fast numbers. The power is missing.

Aneek is technically rarely wrong. sings with ease even the most difficult songs. Diction is really good. he is maybe the strongest when it comes to technical aspect.

Sumedha gets nasal at times but is strong when it comes to sur and taal. but there hv been performances by her where she has messed at high scales. could not hold onto the sur.

Poonam is technically as far as sur and taal goes is always perfect. she needs to mellow down her voice at high notes.Its not smooth at times there. but none can beat her Vande Mataram. thats maybe the best on this stage in this season.

Raja seriously needs to work on songs thats on low scale. his strong point is the feeling he generates in his singing. it touches u but unless the song is on high scale he is not perfect with his sur and taal.


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranjusweet

I agree to your point.But can I ask you is technically correct the only criteria to be a successful singer unless you have a good voice quality.

I never said that only a technically correct singer is successful. Success and technical prowess are not necessarily two sides of the same coin.

Do you think Aneek's pronounciation of hindi and punjabi words are upto the mark?

I think his Hindi pronunciation is very good. Punjabi is not perfect, but decent. However, I have already commented that his English rapping is not up to the mark in my previous post.

Please hear is apne song where there are little punjabi and pure hindi words.

I do not know this song very well, so I cannot comment on it.

Secondly Amanat is technically correct but I feel when it comes to high pitching or singing the songs fast his voice doesnt come out louder even if he tries.

Yes, I said the same thing in a previous post. But, technically, when you look at sur, taal, laya, ornamentation - he is stronger than the rest.

Thirdly if a singer has voice and he knows about music he can correct himself technically in times to come.It will just require riyaz and a good GURU to correct himself.

Yes, that applies to everyone.

So now say who is the best among the contestents and who is going to get success in Indian music industry in times to come.

That is a different question, which requires a different analysis. My analysis is purely technical and very cut and dried in that aspect. I am looking at Sur, Taal, Laya, Ornamentation, Breath Control, Diction, Feel and the sum-total of these aspects. I am not looking at voice quality or timbre.

My personal opinion on who is going to be successful in the future is very different from the conclusions of this analysis.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Aneek has no problem with breath control as some one pointed out...he just needs to stop jumping around and then listen to his rendition...

All his performances so far has been perfect to near perfect....HR's gimmicks is diverting his attentions which is leading to him giving performances below his own standard....

Others are also good...but everyone has their own limitations....

This opinion is solely aimed towards playback singing...not gharana type singing...


Versatility wise....Aneek (breadth problem due to execessive jumping around else he is the best and believe me this guy is going to rock the music industry in the days to come irrespective of whether he wins the contest or not) and Amanat(sometimes his voice falls soft and flat, sometimes he gives stupendous performances)

Sumedha - Has a sweet voice
Poonma - Has a deep voice..she sings with a lot of force

Raja - Is also a classically trained singer..but suited for high range singing(and he can't change his voice I am sure). He also has the capability to make a composition his own and the rendition becomes his own version.

Musarat - He falls into a different category altogether. He is a gharana type of singer, who knows nothing else but music. Competitions are not meant for him. He sets his own standards. By making him sing and then make a mockery of his renditions is pure insult to music.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I'm not the best judge of who is technically the strongest but from a layman's point of view Amanat and Aneek seem really good.

Somebody mentioned that if you have a good voice then technique will come with enough practice and proper guidance. But is that really true? I mean a good voice can have technical limitations is what I've always thought. So maybe somebody can shed some light on this.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: SODIUM

I think your post is screaming Raja Raja Raja...

I never mentioned Raja in my post was just seeking expert views on my points.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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i feel it is poonam
her voice has strength and melody 😳
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: kim182



Somebody mentioned that if you have a good voice then technique will come with enough practice and proper guidance. But is that really true? I mean a good voice can have technical limitations is what I've always thought. So maybe somebody can shed some light on this.




Your question is quite complex actually because it brings in a variety of different elements into play such as voice quality (timbre) and the type of composition.

I will try my best to answer this question based on my own knowledge:

The basic prerequisites to be a singer (the non-bathroom kind) is as follows:

1. An appealing/unique tonal quality or timbre

2. Ability to project your voice

3. A natural aptitude to mimic the different sound frequencies that one hears in a specific pattern.

4. A range of 1.5 - 2 octaves minimum.

All of the above are natural gifts and they cannot be developed or learnt for the most part. They make up a singer.

Once an individual has all of the above attributes, he/she can learn technique, which basically involves "control" of the voice. A singer's voice does not really have technical limitations
i.e. a singer has the ability to sing scales quickly, to add ornaments to songs, to modulate his/her voice.

Some singers learn to do this quickly, while others learn it at a much slower pace. So the "limitation" that you speak about comes about in the singer's learning abilities or determination to practice.

Other factors such as personal liking for one song over another and matching a voice to a type of song do play a role in limiting a singer, but they are not "technical limitations" as per me.


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Tanaz,

Thanks for your nice reply.


Seeing the present status of Indian music industry which is searching for a different male voice.

Please say whom do u personally feel will be successful in future

Just your personal feeling.

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