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It was only TALAT who maintained his quality all along. Thanks for letting me know about the songs he sang after Jahanara, such as Haqeeqat. Well, he stayed unspoilt till the last movie. I feel Talat did not get his due and was sidelined because of giants like KK and Rafi. 😭
Talat and Mannadey
but well when you have abundance of talent this happens, we are in the opposite mode now so anyone becomes a singer
Originally posted by: rare2005
personally, i never liked talat mehmood. too shaky (kampan-yukta) voice. doesn't appeal to me. i guess it's personal like ...
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You mean you don't like:
Shaam-e-gham ki kasam
Seene mein sulagtein hai armaan
Raat ne kya kya khwaab dikhaayi
Dekh li teri khudaai
Zindagi dene waale sun
Tasveer banata hoon???
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You mean you don't like:
Shaam-e-gham ki kasam
Seene mein sulagtein hai armaan
Raat ne kya kya khwaab dikhaayi
Dekh li teri khudaai
Zindagi dene waale sun
Tasveer banata hoon???
i love those tunes immnsely, i just don't can't seem to appreciate his style of singing ...
Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh
How can you compare Rafi and Kishore... they are different. Rafi might be good on some songs, Kishore is on others. There is alwsys game of one-upmanship bet' the two. Rafi bettered the song from pyar ka mausam, tum bin jau kaha.. despite kishore yodelling.... Kishore left him way behind with Yaadon ki baraat. In fact if you listen carefully to the medley from hum-kisise-kam-nahi.. the chand mera dil nicely sung by rafi...is like TOTALLY overshadowed by "Aa dil kya" by kishore left everybody way behind......Kishores magic is of a different kind.. nobody could equal it...
As per me. Rafi was far superior than Kishore.
Kishore might be good in few fast paced songs but over all without any doubt Rafi was far more superior with great range. I can't imagine kishore singing any classicals, ghazals, bhajans, patriaotics songs so easily song by Rafi. I know everyone has thier own opinion and I fully respect yr choice and yr point of view
Originally posted by: adwarakanath
I had been out for a day, and i miss all this exciting convo in here...how could I?😭
I'll agree with all three of you. But there's one thing, as a personal opinion, i hold...that Rafi's voice did not suit Amitabh...but that doesn't take away the sheer magic of Teri Bindiya Re, or Patta Patta Boota Boota. All said and done, when you listen to the songs on your walkman or taperecorder or computer, you exactly don't have Amitabh prancing around.
Vipulji, you met THE Mannada? WOW!!! You're lucky!
Yes, in any interview he gives, Mannada acknowledges that fact that Rafi was the greatest. As a playback singer, yes! No doubt. Talk about technicality, Rafi himself admits that there was no one to touch Mannada. In an interview, Rafi had said - You listen to my songs, I listen to Manna Babu's songs.
Yazz..I'll repeat what qwerty said - You Rock Man! 👍🏼
There are some more examples where, although they aren't duets, Rafi has surpassed Lata. Take the enchanting RD composition in Abhilasha - Wadiyan Mera Daman. I think Rafi sounds WAY better. There are more harkats and a distinct feel to it. Lata's sounds bland according to me. Then there's that S-J composition O Mere Shah-E-Khuban...again, Rafi Saab overtakes Lata. Kuhu Kuhu Bole Koyalia...i felt Rafi's taans in the beginning of the song were much more powerful than Lata's.
S-J preferred Manna over Mukesh for RK only when the situation demanded it. You can't imagine Mukesh singing Aye Bhai Zara Dekh Ke Chalo in his nasal voice. But I still don't understand why Manna sang Pyar Hua Iqraar Hua. Nevermind, we've gotten a timeless masterpiece after all this Aah Sick Banaya, and Jhalak Dikhla Jaaaaaaaa!
I agree that I prefer Talat Singing for the dapper romantic Hero Dilip Kumar. But then, Naushad-Dilip-Rafi weaved sheer magic. Classically, their songs were the best and the strongest. The thing was, mass appeal.
Sajjad-Talat-Dilip, couple of movies...Sajjad-Talat...all movies...show me a better music director, a more original MD than Sajjad!
Interestingly, while talking about the MD camps, we forgot one camp
Salil Choudhry - Rafi, Mukesh, Manna, Hemant..Lata, Lata, Lata. Salil didn't believe in the untrained Kishoreda and was almost on the verge of calling in Hemantda to sing for Kishore in his own film once! He's used Mukesh and Manna really well.
Hemant Kumar has been used superbly by Salilda and Dada Burman. Especially the latter. In Guru Dutt movies. It is quite interesting to note, that in Guide, if it was an out and out robust declaration of love, it was Kishore's voice for Dev Anand - Gata Rahe Mera Dil. If was the lament of waiting for love, Din Dhal Jaaye, it was the sublime voice of Rafi. If it was the lament of a broken heart and disenchantment with romance, Kya Se Kya Ho Gaya, again it was the pathos ridden voice of Rafi.
If it was a mature Love song, simple and beautiful, Tere Mere Sapne, it was Rafi. Same case scenerio in Aradhana.
SDB and RDB didn't quite like Mukesh's voice. Infact, for that Ek Din Bik Jayega, RDB didn't want Mukesh in that film at all (please, can someone point out...oh wait, was it Dharam Karam?). But RK said, No mukesh, no music. So RDB had to take in Mukesh. Suprisingly, SDB gave Chal Ri Sajni to Mukesh, and look how it turned out. Biggest hit of that movie, Bambai Ka Babu. Then RDB gave Jis Gali Mein Tera Ghar to Mukesh for Rajesh Khanna...what a song! what lyrics, what tune, what orchestration! Man no one, absolutely NO ONE can beat Panchamda in orchestration!!
And talking about Roshan saab and Ravi, Roshan's used Mannada in some classic master pieces..Laga Chunari Mein Daag, the Qawwalis, Zindagi Bhar Nahi Bhoolegi (oooooooh....). Ravi has used Mahendra Kapoor a lot. Well, Ravi had a little disagreement with Rafi, and had stopped using him. And BR chopra mostly turned to Ravi for his music. But Rafi-Ravi...one enchating intoxicating song comes to mind - Chuu Lene Do Nazuk Honthon Ko.
RDB used Rafi a LOT in the 60s upto the early 70s. But once Kishoreda smashed up the billboards with Aradhana, he turned to Kishore and no one but Kishore. Actually, after KK's death in 1987, Pancham went into such depression that he wondered whether he could compose without KK. That's why, after Ijazaat, there was a dearth of hits from Pancham...before his swansong, 1942- A Love Story. Interestingly, he used that IDIOT Kumar Sanu...KK clone.
RDB has used Suresh Wadkar quite a few number of times in the 80s. Sunny - Aur Kya Ahd-E-Wafa Hote Hain, Tumse Milke - Parinda, Seene Mein Jalan (is it RDB? I think it is..) and other songs.
Talking about Mukesh's range, yes! He had quite a good range. Some of his classics are unmatchable....Jinehin Hum Bhoolna Chahein, Jhoomti Chali Hawa, Saranga Teri Yaad Mein, Songs from Milan, yahudi, then you have Bhooli Hui Yaadein (Madan Mohan...man, there's a reason why MM is my no.1 favourite composer!!), songs from Mera Naam Joker! Rightly, he's called the Dard Bhare Nagom Ka Shahenshah.
Absolutely, there's no one to beat Talat in Ghazals. I have a little collection of his non-filmi ghazals...man, listen to them, you'll forget Talat Aziz, Ghulam ali etc. You know, Mehdi Hassan in an interview once admitted that he initially tried to copy Talat Mehmood...and developed his soft style from there. But no one has been able to ape Talat completely....that quiver is unmatchable. Anil Biswas - Talat...another mesmerising combination.
Mohd. Aziz was a fantastic singer, but then, once the original goes away, that too an Original like the greatest Rafi Saab, it's too painful to hear someone singing song that should've been sung by Rafi. Atleast, it's painful to hardcore fans like me. Shabbir Kumar....yuck!🤢
I do not know yr name, but I like d yr in depth analysis. BTW, just call me Vipul and not VipulJi...
Talat had a very sweet voice. His problem was his range and he never sang any high piched songs. But I think though he was bit shaky, I love his silken touch...
Somebody posted few of his songs.. here are some more (my favourites)
1> Jalte hain jiske liye..
2> Jaye to jaye kanha ( Taxi driver)
3> Chal diya karvan ( Laila majnu.. I guess picturised on Shammi Kapoor)
4> Milte hi aankhe dil hua (duet with Shamshad)
5> Shame-e-gum ki kasam
6> Baichan nazar bettan jigar
7> Phir wohi sham wohi (I think this was his lat song from Taj mahal - 1964. I could be wrong here)
and many more...
I think he was ghazal king of bolywood. Voice touching yr soul though there were some technical issues
Oooh I love all these songs esp "chal diya karvan".
It is not really important if a singer doesn't have range. As long as he sings the song given to him perfectly. Talat was for a niche audience. Similarly even if Mukesh didn't have range, he was given just those songs that he could sing perfectly. Music Directors in that golden era knew exactly what they wanted and where to get it from.
Oooh I love all these songs esp "chal diya karvan".
It is not really important if a singer doesn't have range. As long as he sings the song given to him perfectly. Talat was for a niche audience. Similarly even if Mukesh didn't have range, he was given just those songs that he could sing perfectly. Music Directors in that golden era knew exactly what they wanted and where to get it from.
I fully agree. BTW, I am not against Talat. He is my favourite too 👏
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