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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


Indra 🤗 Paro wagon se utaro and answer this question for me please 😆

When Rudra has told Paro several times he has a problem with Laila staying at the Haveli ...Knowing your husband has had a physical relationship with this women for eight yrs ...Why do you question your husband in front to Laila why can't she stay ?
This century who would stay under the same roof with your husbands ex ...

I loved the silent treatment Paro gave Rudra on Friday , was hoping it continued today which it did, but ruined it for me with inconsistencies...I would have loved for Paro to show Laila her place and whatever beef she has with Rudra behind closed doors and family is fine not the either women

Paro wiped Rudra's hair , aaj no tea and she was making Bhindi which Rudra asked her to make ...Like S said , little jealousy would be good ...This is one thing about desi shows I detest showing the women MAHAN ...


It could be two things -

1) Paro does not see through Laila's intentions, and has no clue how her presence poses a threat to her marriage, literally. Some people who are too naive, nice or just really simple at heart, tend to believe everyone sees the world like they do, they take others for their words and fail to see through them.

2) She is so shaken that it's only his response that holds paramount significance to her now. like she says, if he does not consider her to be his wife, she has no hold on him in any case. Getting rid of Laila will be inconsequential then because it could always be something or someone else that severs their relationship tomorrow. It's a losing battle in that case and hence why more important to know the answer to. She needs a reason to fight this... If there is no reason, the battle is lost already.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: habs


It's all good 🤗

I am curious about what you mean about being confident in her doubts. Do you mind explaining it?

Ok Mother Theresa was a stretch but she's the only one that came to mind. LOL

The CVs are schizophrenic - that's the only explanation I can come up with 😆


Ok let me try 😆 Usually when we have a doubt about something we also doubt our doubt...For example...I doubt that my man loves me...but then I think...how can I have this doubt...on what basis...I may try to convince myself that my doubt is wrong...I may become confused about what exactly it is that I am doubting...how can my man not love me...but how can I just doubt that he doesn't love me...how can I be sure that my doubt is valid...maybe I'm just acting crazy...is it wrong to have this doubt...is it possible that there is another explanation...that is doubting my doubt...

Paro seems to be sure that her doubts have basis and that her doubts will be proven right. She is right to have genuine doubts but I feel that she already feels her doubts are right - at least to some extent. She isn't doubting her doubt, she seems to be 100% sure that her doubt is valid. Do I make any sense?

Again, that is just my interpretation of Paro today and you may not have seen it like that at all. It's fine - we all have different perceptions, and that's what makes discussions like these so interesting 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Snoowfall

I M waiting for you to post the rest...


Updated posts 2 and 3... !
Now going through the thread...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: spirit


It could be two things -

1) Paro does not see through Laila's intentions, and has no clue how her presence poses a threat to her marriage, literally. Some people who are too naive, nice or just really simple at heart, tend to believe everyone sees the world like they do, they take others for their words and fail to see through them.

2) She is so shaken that it's only his response that holds paramount significance to her now. like she says, if he does not consider her to be his wife, she has no hold on him in any case. Getting rid of Laila will be inconsequential then because it could always be something or someone else that severs their relationship tomorrow. It's a losing battle in that case and hence why more important to know the answer to. She needs a reason to fight this... If there is no reason, the battle is lost already.


S ,

When Laila first appeared at the door step beaten up was Paro not the one to step back behind Rudra ...For crying out loud Paro knows Laila tried to kill her ...Your husband's ex ...is this not threat .

If husbands response holds paramount to her well we come back to my question again ...his response was ...he wants Laila out .

We can go on and on ...let just play ringa ringa roses pocket full off 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


Indra 🤗 Paro wagon se utaro and answer this question for me please 😆

When Rudra has told Paro several times he has a problem with Laila staying at the Haveli ...Knowing your husband has had a physical relationship with this women for eight yrs ...Why do you question your husband in front to Laila why can't she stay ?
This century who would stay under the same roof with your husbands ex ...

I loved the silent treatment Paro gave Rudra on Friday , was hoping it continued today which it did, but ruined it for me with inconsistencies...I would have loved for Paro to show Laila her place and whatever beef she has with Rudra behind closed doors and family is fine not the other women

Paro wiped Rudra's hair , aaj no tea and she was making Bhindi which Rudra asked her to make ...Like S said , little jealousy would be good ...This is one thing about desi shows I detest showing the women MAHAN ...


Shweta!🤗

Well you got me there. I don't disagree with anything you have written and I'm on the Paro bandwagon? Well I like to be contrary sometimes and since I figured most of the people on this thread would be taking up Rudy's cause I took the opposite.

I honestly don't have any explanation for her behaviour other than the CVs forget their meds.
But I liked the show. No KCM and less of Laila was a winning combination.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Hope

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Beautifully written, Sush. I loved how you showcased Paro's POV. Eagerly waiting to read your other posts.

When I watched the episode...some of the things that Paro did and said...didn't make sense to me...and I was like...WHAT THE $&@#! Then I told myself...OK ...Sush, put your logical brain aside and think emotionally...and see where do you get to...and it made more sense...

LOL, Now that makes two of us. You remember, I mentioned in my last post that I stopped thinking logical as then nothing makes sense. I am happy knowing I have company.😃


I totally loved today's episode and you want to know why ... there was no overdose of Laila 😛. It was well balanced episode. Ahhh! at last I was able to watch the whole episode peaceful 😆.

The dream sequence, served its purposes. It made us RRians go crazy the whole weekend predicting, dissecting and analyzing the whole scene. It also displayed Paro's insecurities. Rudra did tell her that he didn't love Laila. But like you said in your post and like Laila asked Paro in her dream. Why does Laila being around Rudra effect him? Why does he feel uncomfortable around her? All these questions raised because she was confused of her own place in his life. Wanted to know if is she is a no body too?
If her existence means anything for him? If she means anything to him?

Rudra never said she means something to him or that she is important to him or at least didn't even acknowledge her as his wife in the right sense. Ya, he did call her his wife but never like he literally meant it. Her waking up with a jolt before Rudra answered just shows that she is not ready to let go of Rudra (Thank god). She can't even in her dream imagine of him being somebody's. And she comes Running to him, her love, her life.

Her questions to Rudra were on the spot. She first asked what was bugging her... Why is he concerned for Laila if he doesn't really have any feelings for her? Why is he bothered by her staying in the haveli? Here Paro was not blaming Rudra for loving Laila like few RRians deduced. She was not suspecting him. It was more like she was making him realize that if everything was really over between Laila and him then there was no reason for him to feel anything for Laila, that her stay in haveli shouldn't bother him. Which means, there are still unresolved isues between Laila and him.

And Rudra jumps in with his answer, "She does bother him. Laila stay in haveli bothers him. It is not because he is concerned for Laila but for her." I got to say, Rudra was Bang On with his answer. I can see a tiny shock on Paro's face 😊. He directly says, "Her smile less face. Her anger, Her BIG FAT tears. They effect him. Make him sad." Now that was a sweet thing to say isn't it ☺️. If it had been any other man in that place then Paro or any girl would have been sure that she is indeed important to him. But we are talking about our Rudy boy here. He has the habit of showering you with care and then shout, "Who are you to question me? You don't own me" type of sentences 🤔. So Paro wanted to hear exactly what he meant by his words. What she really
is to him? His wife.??? But he never gave her any right as his wife. Except for that red thread on her neck there is nothing that binds him to her or her to him because he never said or showed that he was committed to her, that he loved or cared or felt something or anything for her. Was it all just a obligation to him?

Paro didn't want to be the type to, feel insecure for her husbands past fling, feel jealous for something that happened before she entered his life, not trust her husband when he said it is over and kick Laila out knowing that her life is in danger... No way. She can't do that. She can't stoop so low. She wanted to raise above all those feelings and do the right thing by letting Laila stay. This girl has some guts I say...👏 No typical FL Bashan, Rona, ablanari card... She stood strong to what she believed in.👍🏼

Loved Dilsher today. He was a treat. He was truly acting like the head of the family in every sense. He played an awesome brother, Uncle, Father and Father in law today. 👏

I feel a bit sorry for our Rudy boy. Paro left him with no choice but to look into himself and recheck what she truly means to him. To realize how important she is to him 😳. I am sure he will come to terms with his true feelings pretty soon. What then? is the question.

This question makes me wonder what CV's are trying to do here... Are they planning on making Rudra confess and then for Paro to run away from his life in bliss 😕... What crap?😡 I understand Paro got carried away and wants to know if she truly means anything to Rudra. Any girl would be desperate enough to know her place in the life of the man she loves. Because for her, life is Rudra and if he doesn't want her in his life then what will she do? Where does she stand? I get it. But Paro is also a sensible girl. So CV's making her forget or not think about her promise to her Bolenath is a bit far fetched for her character . I hope CV's concentrate on this point a bit more real soon. I mean the prospect of Paro expecting Rudra to fall in love with her or reciprocate to her feeling is great. Her wanting to know if he will ever love her is not wrong. But when I think about her pact with god to live him for ever... It all gets confusing. I really want CV's to think more on this angle. This last para was my logical brain blabbering. So, excuse me 😛. Couldn't shut it down any further... It is heart breaking to imagine Rudra after Paro walks out on him. That too after he confesses his love... NO WAY.🤢


I hope and wish the future episodes are also like today... Mostly Laila free. Thank you CV's. And I request you to please kick Laila out of haveli soon.😆


Loved the emotional part of your post Hope and then your logical brain kicked in...😆

I am at the same place as you...having your husbands X around, who still has hits for him is nothing less than insanity...only Mahan Naris of desi soap are so willing to do that...that they make it an issue to fight about with their husbands...😆

On the other hand...I think today she just was so upset with Rudy...if he had suggested that Laila should stay...she would have surely wanted to throw her out...he just chose the wrong moment to act on DS' s advice...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: spirit


It could be two things -

1) Paro does not see through Laila's intentions, and has no clue how her presence poses a threat to her marriage, literally. Some people who are too naive, nice or just really simple at heart, tend to believe everyone sees the world like they do, they take others for their words and fail to see through them.

2) She is so shaken that it's only his response that holds paramount significance to her now. like she says, if he does not consider her to be his wife, she has no hold on him in any case. Getting rid of Laila will be inconsequential then because it could always be something or someone else that severs their relationship tomorrow. It's a losing battle in that case and hence why more important to know the answer to. She needs a reason to fight this... If there is no reason, the battle is lost already.


Spirit!

It's option number 2 in my humble opinion. What is the point if they don't share anything? I guess I'm slightly crazy but it does make sense to me.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: habs


Shweta!🤗

Well you got me there. I don't disagree with anything you have written and I'm on the Paro bandwagon? Well I like to be contrary sometimes and since I figured most of the people on this thread would be taking up Rudy's cause I took the opposite.

I honestly don't have any explanation for her behaviour other than the CVs forget their meds.
But I liked the show. No KCM and less of Laila was a winning combination.


Shwets...although I made quips about Mahan Naris too...but the point Indra is making is very good...she has to know the truth...nothing he says will convince her...and it is like a test and a challenge for their love...you know how she feels about challenges...that way it is consistent...

I didn't expect Paro to throw Laila out...she is just not that person...but I was expecting...Rudy will finally overpower her decision and prevail...and she went emotional blackmailing him again...😡

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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


S ,

When Laila first appeared at the door step beaten up was Paro not the one to step back behind Rudra ...For crying out loud Paro knows Laila tried to kill her ...Your husband's ex ...is this not threat .

If husbands response holds paramount to her well we come back to my question again ...his response was ...he wants Laila out .

We can go on and on ...let just play ringa ringa roses pocket full off 😆



Let's play shall we
It's simple, that could be two things too.

1) that sequence was directed by a different director. so we r not supposed to analyse today's reaction based on that since they really don't expect us to remember because this director does not either 😆

2) that was before she knew what brought Laila there, remember Paro believes in giving chances, so once she heard Laila's version, she has lapped up Laila's version, of changing... Going by your logic, she should not be living in that house with KCM too, she has far too many attempted murders to her credit than Laila does.😆 I know this is not exactly the same thing but...

Ok I lied, there is one more point.

3) even if Laila stays out, if Rudra does not consider Paro his wife, there is nothing stopping him, in her current shaken and stirred and rattled state of mind...she has conveniently chosen to overlook all the signs that he does care for her. Now that she is aware of this threat that lurks outside thier door, she wants to know... If she has no hold on him as a wife... She has no lead... He has to give her a reason
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: spirit


It could be two things -

1) Paro does not see through Laila's intentions, and has no clue how her presence poses a threat to her marriage, literally.

2) She is so shaken that his response holds paramount significance. like she says, if he does not consider her to be his wife, she has no hold on him in any case. Getting rid of Laila will be inconsequential then because it could always be something or someone else that severs their relationship tomorrow. It's a losing battle in that case and hence why more important to know the answer to. She needs a reason to fight this... If there is no reason, the battle is lost already.




Leesan: Sorry for re- quoting everyone, but everyone made such valid points .

Deep down Paro knows Laila has ulterior motives in being there...and that is obviously to stir the pot further, and get her hands on Rudra, and if all else fails create such a schism between the two that Paro leaves and Rudra eventually returns to his old habits! But the bigger picture for Paro is her own place in Rudra's life ,especially now that his past is now impacting the present and future of their lives together. But are they really " together?" And what does " together" mean to him?

It's like when you're a teenager and unsure of the guy who keeps calling, turning up unexpectedly, volunteering in the same clubs etc. and you want to ask " So are we dating now?" What are we exactly? And she knows with Laila on site, she's bringing things to a head, and with Rudra's so discombobulated, he may be more likely to come up with a definite answer to her questions.

Errr... If I woke up from bed after a disturbing nightmare, and discovered my spouses's ex playing hanky panky ,and massaging his hand, he would certainly get a hot cup of tea and you know where!!

But Paro cannot take the lead on this yet until she is sure where she stands .Right now she's hurting and lashing out at Rudra because he is the one she loves, and it is this love for him that's the cause of her pain at this point.


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