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Posted: 11 years ago
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I simply donot enjoy ashish's acting in these over the top emotional scenes and I also feel the breakdowns happen too frequently and their effectiveness is just getting reduced. The scene could have been far more subtle without the crying etc.
Having said that , ashish is a very good actor and great in scenes where he has to be subtle , sarcastic , unintentionally funny , passionate etc .

Think the directors need to cut down on such scenes to make the episodes more effective.

It was a decent episode otherwise.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: sukhminderkaur7

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Lol. Yeah new forum trend...Tit for Tat..😆 Party roz horahi hain.. thats y our forum is NO 1. 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Technically, he has only broken down in front of paro, or alone, I think. Unless I missed an episode.
I did not think he was OTT at all. He is physically weak, emotionally drained and in such a situation, very vulnerable. He wanted to hold her hand, but he could not. His hand slipped, and he was terror stricken that she would slip away too. So he told her that he could not love her, because if he did say it, he would die if she went away. But he continues to stand before her, emotionally stripped bare and defenceless. What clearer way to show that he loves her, he needs her?

If we were to go by word of mouth alone on what people said, we would be bulldozed in real life. Children communicate in contradictions, for gods sake! RR is all about that... Paruds contradictions in words and actions. Its the crux of their drama!

Imagine for a moment, that your own mother left you without any warning, any notice. It will rip your soul out, not getting closure. Is she alive? Suffering? Happy? Sad? Does she miss me? And missing your mother is a killing thing. If he cried, if he bawled like a baby, so what? He is defenceless against that blow. He is all cut to shreds inside. And when he is ready to put his mother behind and move on, he finds that she is alive and kicking! And married happily to a terrorist! I am amazed he did not turn alcoholic at that!

We are not allowed to compare shows and actor performances, but I have seen a scene where the hero finds out his brother married his bride. The crying there was 10 times more. And men do not look that good while crying! Ok that was shallow, but its true. The eyes spoke genuinely in both cases ... That show and todays epi in this show. In my opinion.

The turn of his emotions was scary... laila coming back, he has a counter move for that, he can think, and he starts to think on his feet. All his distrust, his pricking of his thumbs working overtime.
Lets see how it goes.

Just my opinion 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
i agree with you on the point that the directors may have overdone it... but i like his acting
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
Ashish is a fab actor...
He is an amazing actor...
Director,writer need to take care of such things..
Such scenes should be sparingly used so as to create sympathy for Rudra...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: DiyaS


@bold ... THAT is my biggest grouse with these scenes, and also with the way they have shown Rudra's over-reaction to beautiful women, and specifically Paro. He does NOT sound like a man who is qualified to lead an armed unit, he is far too emotionally unstable and unreliable.

Your last sentence ... I agree completely. In emotional scenes, less is usually more. The more retrained and held back the crying, the more effective it is. Sanaya has perfected the art ... and her emotional scenes are usually much shorter ... they are far more effective. The directors, in giving Ashish such long emotional breakdowns, are compromising both his character, and the effectiveness of his performance And Ashish goes OTT in these scenes. The PaRud scene was beautiful in the communication between the couple today ... but the crying was unnecessary.



I agree...If you look at the very first breakdown scene... and the later ones, there is a lot of difference... In the first breakdown, he fought a war against the terrorists, he lost his men, he was mortally injured and on top of that he was given an unjustified set down from a very distraught mother who has lost her son under his command...it was less of a set down and more of a curse ... a curse which he was already living .. and when he broke down, it made sense... the scene really gripped you heart .. you really felt for Rudra there... you connected with him there... The scene was also intensified with his other half Paro's grief as being shown on the other side of the mirror. the background score did the trick... And also, Rudra's breakdown if you see in that scene was quite restrained and short... because he recovered seeing Paro on the other side...

The only other breakdown scene was when he cries with the doll first time after he returns to haveli after throwing the tea at Mohini... that was to an extent fine... it made sense as he came by his old childhood memories

Rest all are really hard to bear...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Exprimere

Does he love her, or not? Does he want to tell her about who's the mommy, or not? Does he hate her? Is he confused? Is he emo? Is he sad? Is he worried about the health of someone?
Aapka jawaab: he cries. Like a baby. Any problem, and bawls.

Subtlety gayi paani mein. He wasn't even drunk today, what brought it on? And then, what is the difference between the drunk scenes, the daddy burnt scene, mommy discovery scene, and today? Really, itna bhi kya ho gaya?

Frankly, the first couple of times he cried, I was mighty impressed. You know why? Coz generally crying is a taboo for men- on film, or otherwise. I was glad they weren't shying away from showing the genuine breakdown which is universal- not gender specific. But this is too much. And I can say with certainty- had Paro, or any other female character had reacted in this manner, with no trigger as such, I would have pointed that out too. Par Paro react kab karti hai?

Today, I was mostly like: what the hell is wrong with Rudra?

I didn't see intense. I just laughed, I'm pretty sure that wasn't the intended effect.

Before people bash me for my blasphemy, I shall make a speedy exit.

I love Ashish, but Rudra's cry baby attitude is getting 1D now.

Okaybye.

EDITED: Let's do a quick run down of what happened that triggered this reaction- Paro brought medicines to the BSD. Aman and Dilsher teased him. He thought he's in love with Paro. Not saying no reaction was warranted. But did the reaction have to go this far? Is it at par with Dilsher being in the hospital, or his sacking, or finding out about Mala? There needs to be relative balance, is all.



Hi5, I'm with you.
SPOT ON!

I was cringing -puhleeze dont CRY puhleeze. If this was his reaction for this little, when his mom comes back is he going to have a stroke? When he stood next to the punching bag( not Paro!) I was willing him to just turn around & show the emotions in his body language if he couldnt manage it in his expressions.
As for the drinking , my thoughts were " he is not even drunk to be forgiven this reaction"

I think we can expect quite a few poisonous ladoos coming our way Baisa
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonapari

Ashish is a fab actor...

He is an amazing actor...
Director,writer need to take care of such things..
Such scenes should be sparingly used so as to create sympathy for Rudra...


I guess today that scene was much needed to show the emotional connection between parud before Laila's entry. Not from sympathy angle i think..They showed it to differentiate the rudra's perspective towards both laila and paro... I dont know about others i loved that scenes.. He jst opened up himself infront of paro without any embarrasement..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
I agree with you somewhat but I find it tolerable because Rudra only breaks down in front of Paro (if not when he's alone), as far as I can remember. He only shows his weak, emotional side to his soul mate. No one else. And that is what partners are for - you need to be able to express all your weaknesses and fears without any holdbacks to the one you love.

As for Ashish, I think he's a brilliant actor. One of the best. If his emotional scenes seem OTT then the problem lays with the direction - they are completely in charge of how much emotion is shown. If the directors think Ashish's emotional scenes are overboard they could very easily tell him to tone it down...but clearly they're into these types of intense emotional scenes.

I personally have no problem with Rudra's emotional scenes (simply because I'm just as emotional as Rudra, I cry often and not because I want to, but because the tears start on their own - I can't stop myself. When I'm angry or upset I cry. But in no way am I weak). However, I can see why others would think the emotional scenes are OTT. The writers and directors need to make the scenes more subtle maybe, I agree they may be more impactful that way as well.
Edited by Zeeliciousxo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DDC1



Hi5, I'm with you.
SPOT ON!

I was cringing -puhleeze dont CRY puhleeze. If this was his reaction for this little, when his mom comes back is he going to have a stroke? When he stood next to the punching bag( not Paro!) I was willing him to just turn around & show the emotions in his body language if he couldnt manage it in his expressions.
As for the drinking , my thoughts were " he is not even drunk to be forgiven this reaction"

I think we can expect quite a few poisonous ladoos coming our way Baisa




i like that ...🤣

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