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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Guinea


Thats an honest comment vimal 😊 ...all I know is that lets keep the character of paro aside ...sanaya is a very strong willed , mature independent girl ...I don't think anybody and I mean anybody can make her professionally do something which she doesnot want to do. You are a big fan of hers ...you will know what I mean ...



I know what you mean and I agree with you .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
agree NB, a woman must be able to continue her life past the death of her husband.
Paro doesn't know Varun enough to mourn or grief his death. What she does mourn is the fact that her life has changed forever and with that her dreams have come crashing down.

As for some quarters seeking Paro's treatment in a certain way because she is now a widow. Without justifying the widow etiquette, I can see that in villages, people put widows through rituals to mark her widowhood. We have to assume that Paro, being so young and naive, does not know these rituals fully and no other woman in the current household knows that she is a widow. Those who do know think she is dead. So, Paro may not "behave" in ways of a widow because she barely feels married and barely has knowledge of those "etiquettes".

I am sure this issue will come up later, when Mausi finds out Paro's history.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: shree10

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If you expect her to behave like widows of yesteryear then I think we can find many other mistakes in the show (and every show on TV) and then there will be no end.

This is not a realistic show (I hope) and I have signed up for a love story here.

And yes our society has double standards. In urban area widows may not face that much stigma but not sure how it is in rural areas of Rajasthan/Hariyana and many other states. India has become progressive in pockets. So I really cant generalize here.


@bold: exactly. so even if someone finds the regressiveness unpalatable, there will be others who find the progressiveness unpalatable. to each his own,i say. if the show brings a shred of progressiveness into the minds of at least the young generation, i will applaud the makers for a job well done.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Extremely important post, I feel. It is hardly expected of a widower. Can I point out one thing?
Widow"er" v/s Widow = Man v/s woman

It is ALWAYS this active/passive binary between men and women. Men do things. The guy died and so she becomes a widow.
And this is why there are studies that indicate that language itself is a patriarchal construct and, that our word systems favour men. Ironically, superstitious leanings would imply that the luck of the woman was bad, or that she is accursed, and all that. Come what may, man does things and woman takes the blame.
Remember, in Milton's Paradise Lost? How, very neatly, Adam passed the blame of eating the F.Fruit onto Eve? The point I am trying to make is, such a bias exists across cultures and is very deeply embedded into the social system. It dates back to ancient systems. Very few question it and I'm glad you brought this to everyone's notice.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti



I'm sure there will be some changes based on the TRP's. After all they will eventually be measured by this rating. So it is very difficult to stick to the bound script, unless the channel gives the PH a free reign.


But you know, he was her husband for a total of two days. She is not supposed to be a weepy character, because she didn't know him exactly. And so, I get her bouncing back. If at all Paro is sad, it is because of her anchor-less state. Not because she lost her Varun-sa. She might lament the loss to the extent that he was an innocent soul (or that's what Paro believes). So, if her hate for the BSD is magnified rather than her own grief, it makes complete sense na?

Also, if they did delve deeper, some might feel that the pace is slow. After all, they signed up to watch a story between Paro and Rudra. It's a tight rope-walk.

As for her considering the "suhagan" state, utna toh dikhana hi padega. Because otherwise, the moral-ethical queens (here and outside the Forum) would throw tantrums.
Edited by Exprimere - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Very good post, NB!

I'm surprised and rather dismayed at the numerous posts which expect Paro to be dressed like a widow and are upset that she is wearing colored clothes, and smiling on occasion.

If that is their personal viewpoint as to how a widow should dress and behave, then I really don't have anything to say ... if girls in the 21st century can have such pathetic, narrow minded views that they still expect a woman's life to come to a standstill after her husband of barely a few hours has died.

If this is in context of the serial, and Paro the character ... yes, in her setting, a widow would be expected to dress in dark colors ... contrary to what most people here think, mourning colors for Rajasthani widows are dark maroon, dark blue, dark green, and black ... not white. And in villages in India, this might be enforced ... usually by the sasuraal.

BUT even that is changing in villages, for the simple reason that nobody there has the money to change their entire wardrobe. They wear dark clothes for a few days and then go back to their normal everyday clothes, because they don't have a choice. Even those dark clothes are usually borrowed.

Taking her circumstances into account ... Paro is alone, no one from either her maayka or sasuraal is here to enforce those clothes, More to the point she has no access to her choice of clothes ... she has no access to ANY clothes at all, apart from what Rudra chooses to give her. So how exactly is she supposed to conjure up widow's weeds, I don't understand ... out of thin air?

The fact that Rudra has apparently taken out the box containing her wedding trousseau obviously means that she will wear colors ... for two reasons ... one- those are clothes made for a newly married woman, and two, no one here knows she is a widow, she is posing as Rudra's fiance.

If Paro does want to protest about wearing those clothes, again, she doesn't have much choice in the matter, and even more importantly, she has no access to widow's clothes. She has been shown to be a fairly pragmatic young girl, not giving to unnecessary dramatics ... she has judged her situation accurately, and knows she has nowhere else to go ... and no one else she can depend on.


Good points. One thing is if she has access to her wedding trousseau maybe there would be some flashbacks where she thinks about what her life was going to be like. Would be surprised if they don't show her thinking about it even then. This is again in the context of the show. When and if she is expected to behave as rudra's fiance I guess she would balk at that given the way she has grown up.

As someone pointed in a different post this is a girl who was chosen for marriage because a snake choose to drink milk from her bowl! So in the context of the show it would be wierd to show her as totally accepting!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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How can she grieve for a guy she did not know at all? They just finished the rituals she has spoken to him once in private how the heck would she grieve for him? She might feel sad her marriage did not last but grieve for him personally I doubt it as they were not even intimate emotionally neither physically.

She might be missing her family as the future is unknown to her and she might be unhappy that things did not work out for her she might be grieving these things rather than the guy whom she did not know at all.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Exprimere


But you know, he was her husband for a total of two days. She is not supposed to be a weepy character, because she didn't know him exactly. And so, I get her bouncing back. If at all Paro is sad, it is because of her anchor-less state. Not because she lost her Varun-sa. She might lament the loss to the extent that he was an innocent soul (or that's what Paro believes). So, if her hate for the BSD is magnified rather than her own grief, it makes complete sense na?

Also, if they did delve deeper, some might feel that the pace is slow. After all, they signed up to watch a story between Paro and Rudra. It's a tight rope-walk.

As for her considering the "suhagan" state, utna toh dikhana hi padega. Because otherwise, the moral-ethical queens (here and outside the Forum) would throw tantrums.


Well ... Paro cried for a whole month... but let's assume she continues to do so... where is the progress of the story... a weepy cringing heroine and a quiet dark saturnine hero... someone has to change... so Paro was the one to change...also remember that she has been through trauma earlier... the same perpetrators and bounced back... so she has decided to take that route.

Would love some flashbacks in between as she goes through her trousseau however...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
To me what is being shown of Paro makes sense, she hardly knew the guy and was for married just for some hours i guess. How an individual copes with a tragedy is subjective and personal, it depends on the persons association with the subject and nature of the person facing the loss.


Edited by Malini1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm delighted that they are Not showing Paro shedding copious tears over the loss of a husband whom she knew barely anything about and to whom she'd spoken to minutes before the wedding. I've seen overdramatic shows before where women who are widowed within hours of the wedding howl like banshees over the loss of husbands they barely knew, and I find it plain ridiculous🥱 For me, Paro's return to normalcy makes complete sense and is actually reassuring. I'm not watching this show to see a supposed "epitome of virtues, goodness and strength." There are enough nonsensical serials that have those kinds of female leads. I'd rather see a simple, ordinary girl's courageous journey towards love and happiness, and so far, this show has been meeting its promise.

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