Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The debate over whether Ovi should have called her parents in 20 years to clear up things or if Arman should have called her has been going on for some days.

I think the topic needs a thread of its own. So, here it is.

the debate sometimes turns into a debate about an ideal daughter. But in my view the real issue is the throwing out of the window of the most widely held sacred axiom all around the world that parents' love is unconditional.

From where does anyone expect unconditional love in the whole wide world? From parents - they are the ones who offer a child the ultimate source of solace under any circumstance. No matter how big a mistake a person/child makes, normally, he/she has faith that their parents will give them emotional support (not that they will approve of the mistake). Even if the whole world goes against one, normally a person gets strength from the faith that their parents will stand by them whatever they have to go through, even if it is just punishment for their mistake. That is one of the unshakable foundations of life.

Of course, children also do care for and respect their parents. But in fiction or in real life unconditional love is simply not associated with them as it is with parents.

The latest PR track has overturned that one true Pavitra Rishta understanding in the world! Even if Archana and Manav thought that Arjun had been disloyal to Purvi because of Ovi, it was their duty to find out the truth about it without waiting for Ovi to call. When two children have fights, parents try to reconcile them after hearing both sides and not just listen to one and make their decision leaving the other one feeling completely betrayed in the foundational relationship of their life.

In earlier PR tracks, the parents were shown to be normal - Sulo was mad at Varsha when she was going out with her boss, but she went after her to Pune to check what she was doing. Manju and Vinod were mad at Punni about the Mittal incident and even beat her up; but they did not abandon her. What the latest PR track has shown however, puts a question mark on parents' love being unconditional. Armaan did know (or at least had information) that Ovi was with Arjun and had a child. Could they not have tried to learn her side of the story? Yes, Ovi had left them even before her child was born and was not keeping in touch. But it was too soon after her finding about her baby and at least Arman had tried contacting her. This time, none of that in 20 years. Could they not have contacted Arjun or their business associates to find out even about the grand child?

Is it a big crime for a child (which happens to be Ovi in this case), if she expected unconditional support or even just a caring inquiry from the one place in the world from where every normal person expects it?

Soham behaving as a bad parent is understandable from the point of view of the plot in that he is shown as a model of how not to be. But the leads of the show who give it its title and have generally been shown as loving parents? I do not like this turning up-side-down of the sanctity of unconditional parental love even a bit.

Disclaimer: I am really not debating here about any character. So, I will not respond in defense or in criticism of a character. This is only my POV about this particular aspect of the story, not even the whole story. The CVs are actually doing great with the Ankita-Naren track in my POV.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Excellent thread muse! It was def needed! I feel as if both parties should have contacted e/o. It was Armans duty to find out the truth and understand the entire picture before any decision was made. I also think it was Ovi's duty to contact her parents and explain what was goin on. A lot of people will say, well arman have been bad parents to her so she doesn't owe them anything but then what does Arman owe Ovi? She has ignored them and left them out of her life also after the pari issue came out.

Regardless of what Ovi has done or Arman has done, they both owe each other a phone call. They're family. Family always had an obligation to one another in my opinion. In terms of Ovi, i think even if she ddint want to speak to Arman, at least contact Savita or her twin Teju.

Arman have made grave mistakes in Ovi and Soham's case. I put a lot of blame on them but in the end they can't do much when an adult child chooses to live life according to their term like Soham did with the Gauri issue/drinking.

In the end, this track doesn't make sense to me. Children don't pine for their parents and never contact them and parents don't dismiss their children so easily. Nor does a couple divorce over such an issue without any explantion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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In a way, we dont know entirely if Armaan had made any efforts to contact Ovi or vice versa. I think they were both responsible to contact each other. But since Armaan are the parents they are more responsible to contact Ovi. U r right when saying tht parents give unconditional love to their children. They might punish them for a mistake but will never abandon u. So even if Ovi does abandon her parents, they should never abandon her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Soniiya and Samarth:

Agree with excellent points from both of you.

Yes, it is true that they are family and they should have contacted each other. As you say Soniiyaa, families do not behave this way. And yes Ovi should also have contacted her parents.

But as Samarth says, since Armaan are parents loving unconditionally is expected more of them.

Yes, but this track truly does not make sense.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Muse nice topic and write up. Happy New Year...I am glad you decided to stay-come back. 😊

My answer is based on reality and facts. Though we know this is PR the fictional show where everything wrong is shown as right..

So with that here is my personal view.

ArMan are lousy parents to their own kids.

They have only supported Purvi and her side or delusional facts..Never bothered to listen to Arjun or call Ovi to clarify the matters..I am going by what they have shown.

As a parent ArMan had an obligation to listen to both their daughters and Damaad to get the facts. But in this silly show PR Archana rules so she only listens to Purvi her fav child and Manav listens to Archana his beautiful wife..Nothing else matters. Bhaad me jaaye rest of the kids or truth. 😳

In gujarati we have a saying "Chhoru kachhoru thay pan maavtar kamaavtar na thay" Parents are to love their children unconditionally and should never abandone them. No matter how bad kids get or wrong they are..As parents are older, wiser and have seen life. Maturity wise they should handle situation better fairly.

Than again in real life I have seen opposite.

Maavtar kamaavtar thaay pan Chhoru kachhoru na thaay.

Parents have disown-abandon a child listening to one of their fav child who is controlling them with money. Butting one child up against the other. Not a good act-decision IMHO.

I do not want any debates, arguments either.

My POV ofcourse..


Edited by Dabulls23 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Dabulls. Wonderful post!

You are absolutely right. There are parents in this world who love unconditionally and are model parents. And then there are those like Soham in the story.

The Gujarati proverb you quote is nice. That is the model, even if some people do not follow it.

But as you say, this is PR. What you expect as norm, does not work here!

All good wishes for 2014!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Armaan .

Why ?

THEY r the parents , THEY heard one side and it is the duty of parents if they give birth to more than one child , to calmly hear out BOTH the sides and be impartial .

There will always be conflicts among the siblings . Always . On some issue or the other . Be it property or personal . Parents , when it goes upto their level , have to hear BOTH sides .

In this case it was a MUST . The 2 sisters were after one man . They had been bitterly quarelling for quite some time . The man had broken marraige with one daughter and married the other . Now the other daughter was complaining that the man had a secret baby by the daughter he had broken off with .

Any parents would get to the root of the matter , puzzled , about WHY the man broke off with the daughter he was married to first if he intended to have secret relations with her anyways . Was the man a rake , playing BOTH their daughters ? Parents would have moved heaven and earth to find out . Coz it made no sense .

Also , the complaining daughter was the one who had fiddled with the older daughter's marraige , taken away her baby once and been responsible for unsettling her married life . Yet here she was wailing that the man had a baby on the side with the woman he left for her .

Also , that daughter had been 18 years away from one parent . That parent was guilty to never being there for her when she needed it most . So now was the time for that parent to make it up by being fair and at least hearing her out . Her foster child ...her choice in life had in a sense unsettled her biological family once too often . So she owed that to the family .AND the child .

But that did not happen . The parents believed the wails of one child and simply broke off with the other .

Manav failed as he KNEW the child , he had raised her as a baby

Archana opted to give her up as a baby and then for next 20 YEARS cut off again with her and simply did Purvi Purvi

40 years is a long period . It is NOT the onus of the child if the parents choose to believe another sibling over her to salvage a relationship but a full right to be hurt and pained at a realization that no relationship ever existed .

What did they cut off for , having babies on the sly ? Their sense of morality was shocked? Well , the complaining daughter they chose to believe and support had done that too , so this baseless argument holds no water .

Ideally the daughter they disowned should treat them as if they were DEAD .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello Kools!

Thank you. Your points on fairness are great.

Yes, the children are really not the issue here.
It is the way the story presents the outlook of the leads as parents that is the issue.
They are supposed to be emblematic of Pavitra Rishta.
Is only husband-wife, lover-beloved relationship supposed to be Pavitra? A person who values relationships will treat each Rishta as Pavitra, especially if a character is presented as such a person and a lead of a story with that title.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great points.
This storyline makes no sense. The writers just wanted this 20 yr leap thats why they never clarified Arman or Ovi/Arjun contacting each other to settle matters. Because in real life something so stupid cannot happen.
Anyway in PR land it did happen. Now since all my opinions were stated in the posts above I will just add that Ovi need not bother with her so called family. Even Teju her Twin sister did not think to call her to clarify the matter.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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thanks muse for wonderful post and all of u r totally right...all points have strength
yes parents love r unconditional for every children they all equal to all...but in some case the child who is more weak she/he get some extra attention from parents bcz she/he need that...

in this case in entire family ovi was more weak child of arman so she needed some extra attention from her parents but unfortunately she did not get her mother left her ,her aaji spoiled her by telling her mother left her for money , her lover left her after promising etc so in this case she needed extra attention but archana was busy for purvi marriage for which ovi gone in wrong path...


i do not understand why archana always failed in matter of ovi ...what intelligency she showed in case of soham that she never show in case of ovi...bcz ovi was against of her laddly purvi ...


muse u point out about 20 yrs contact ur r8 if ovi is responsible for stay away from her parents then arman also more responsible as parents ...in this case manju and sullo is better then the archana bcz manju beat punni but never left her and tried to rectify punni and also sullo always was against varsha wrong activity but never left her but always tried to teach good lesson to varsha...but archana always prove she has only one chi;d that is purvi ...ovi is nothing for her only for formality...



but i want to say here one point also any parents will be agree to accept the guy for other daughter who betrayal ur daughter and broke her heart after promising her ...any parents or any sister will be accept the guy after learning that some one who closely to u madly love with guy...any parents will be accept the deal marriage for their child ...any husband and wife will be accept each other when they will be know for them their two daughters life spoiled by deal marriage...and most important things any parents will be agree to marry ur daughter to ur other daughter's ex husband when he has child with ur other daughter and recently they have broke up and the guy has relationship when he was married to ur other daughter ...





i really happy to see what ankita and mansi did and now what prasant did...when ankita and mansi learn they both love same guy then they left the guy for forever bcz their sisterly relationship is more important then the guy....which was absent in case of ovi and purvi...

when prasanta learned that ankita has a deal marriage he stand against the marriage so that ankita will be learn she did wrong and marriage is not a deal ...which was absent in case of arman and d clan...


when ankita forced to sasank to marry mansi for masi and family happiness , sasank did not agree and what he did its really good ......which was always absent in case of arjun



what we saw in case of manju , sullo , savita what they did as a parents what we never saw in case of arman...manju is bad but as a parents she did good for her child...


i never understand archana has sympathy and attraction for soham but not for ovi ...what she think ovi's mistake is more than the soham...


in my pov what soham did that unforgivable but ovi's mistake is not only her mistake but all r equally blamed for her mistake...

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