Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15 - Page 3

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Posted: 11 years ago
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hmmm...BAD BAD Ovi...she should have done this, done that...she should have begged to tell Archana that her second child was premature, esp. after her first was a stillborn, as the parents were really,really, really weak in Maths...yup, I get it...so that is the excuse that Arman didn't know...nor try to find out the truth about their daughter...They just disowned her ...baas...end...no worries at all about the daughter or the sick granddaughter - surely, the dutiful daughter Purvi informed them that Pia was sick and was hospitalized - isn't that what she found out before she got Onir to tell her abt the baby's dad name...yup, yup yup bad bad Ovi - why Ovi wasn't like Purvi and was in the face of Arman...hm...am glad Ovi wasn't...just my POV, i guess...I guess, for Arman- ignorance is bliss and they can get away with murder😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is the story Kalapi

Archana opted to live without Ovi for 18 years

after 18 years she entered her life rooting loudly for her foster daughter

then damad broke off with Ovi and married foster daughter and gave her and foster daughter's kaleja thandak at last

but foster daughter wanted to make more issues

so she made a big hoo haa about a baby when in reality SHE had given birth to a baby by hiding , changed babies and done all ulta sulta dhandas

Archana grabbed opportunity to side with foster daughter again and cut off AGAIN , this time forever , 20 yrs have passed

expectation of children's duty to keep relations with parent etc is only when parents behave normally not when parents behave horribly

not when mother never rears her kids and father forgets kids looking at mother's egoistic supposedly sundar thobda coz he missed being with a woman for 18 yrs and puts this weakness above kids

i don't fault Pari for talking rudely to Arjun at all , he never was there for her , cutting birthday cakes for some godforsaken love in a corner of the world and contenting himself with maid's child , he should be ashamed to say 'i luv u ' as a father now , he should reserve it for the woman who was dancing with a sleazeball coz he enjoys these dirty games, their minds have clicked there , there is no place for children there

similiarly i don't fault Ovi for not keeping any contact if parents chose to believe the high pitched wails of Purvi who at last had everything but like Archana wanted to make some issues and be a drama queen

once she forgave Archana for rooting for the foster child , not being there for 18 years , believing egoistically in foster child although she made her fall flat on the face with her dhandas

why each time yaar

attitude of child should be this : Take ur foster baby with u and go to hell 😆😆

of course nothing of the sort will happen and Ovi will weep and ask for forgiveness coz PR shows Archana and Purvi like some disgusting queens before whom the world has to bend

but i sure hope Pia teaches both of them a solid lesson .


Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

40 years is a long period . It is NOT the onus of the child if the parents choose to believe another sibling over her to salvage a relationship but a full right to be hurt and pained at a realization that no relationship ever existed .

Ideally the daughter they disowned should treat them as if they were DEAD .



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Archana did nothing what-so-ever for Ovi...she did nothing...zero, just giving birth shouldn't make a child obligated to the parent...Archana just rooted for her adopted kid, baas. The adopted kid always wanted to be the center-piece of attention and she just made sure about it by hook or crook. Manav, the Dad was useless under the influence of 'beautiful' Archana. I don't see him missing Ovi at all...so much nonchalant is he, that he was 'going' to look for Ovi after Ankita's marriage - and who is Ankita to Manav?? no one really - as he is still unaware of Soham's connection to Ankita. Both leaves India and has not been shown to 'look' for Ovi...no worry, no nothing...so, now they know that Ovi is missing - or at least not with Arjun. It doesn't make them worry about a person missing - wouldn't we be worried if a person or a child goes missing ? Yet, they are planning for the 3rd wedding of a 40+ yr daughter...wow, and Ovi should care for Arman, Why??? Really, why is the onus on her - when Mom is happily shopping gold for the 3rd marriage of a daughter...only thing I can say...this adopted daughter is one lucky girl...she has got it all - and she has got it because she satisfies some ego of the mother - Parents are selfless - oh, my foot...

Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry muse! This topic turned exactly into what you didn't want! Good you left when you did!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am not sure how one can debate in a vacuum when all characters and actions are interlinked. At my age and all the experience that comes with my job and life, that is unrealistic. Besides, when bashing is on Ovi - everything seems to be orderly, unbiased and neutral - the moment the other side is presented it becomes a problem - how, may I ask??? May I ask, what is the exact issue here - that ppl aren't bashing Ovi to their hearts content and saying she is to be blamed - is that the problem here??

Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok! The question now is whether or not the topic of the thread I started is realistic! Actually, I don't mind that at all. At least it is not about upholding or critiquing a character.

Soniiya dear, I did not want to return. But I think clarifying what I meant by the topic and the disclaimer has become necessary. So, I will do just that. And I do this in a friendly spirit since I think it is often necessary to clarify your position in a healthy debate.

What I wanted to talk about is this: Should the current track about parents and daughter not being in contact with each other and especially parents not taking the initiative to contact a child be an aspect of the plot of the show that is titled "Pavitra Rishta" - a show in which the lead characters are supposed to be ideal in their relations?

Of course, a story cannot be told without characters and their actions and what we are talking about draws on what the characters in a story have done. Yet what a story presents through its characters are themes. And it is possible to talk about whether or not a particular theme in a particular track is consistent with the larger theme of the show Pavitra Rishta.

My idea that this aspect of the story is not consistent with the larger theme of the show is based on my agreement with the widely held belief that parents' love is unconditional. At least that is the ideal and I happen to agree with it. Whether this is true can certainly be debated. And some people obviously will have a different opinion. But it is not necessary to make absolute judgments about any character for such a debate. In other words, one can refer to incidents and actions of the characters without saying X is inherently this or Y is inherently that.

In general, I do not want to discuss characters in absolute terms in a story that is still unfolding, especially in a daily soap like this, because the writers (who are the creators of the characters) themselves do not know how they are going to make any specific character behave in the next episode. They turn characters positive and negative rather flippantly. So, if the creators of the characters themselves do not know the essential nature of a character, how can we as viewers know what is going on in the inner mind of that character? It does not seem possible to me. It was in this sense that I said I would not like to discuss any specific character.

Finally, I did not make the thread to present Ovi as a victim, but just to discuss the theme mentioned above. And in the story, I found it inconsistent that parents like Armaan who are referred to as ideal by all others would not even try to inquire about their daughter in 20 years, however difficult she might have been as a 20 year old. And the inconsistency is compounded by the fact that they thought she was with Arjun. A single phone call to Arjun to inquire about Ovi and her child would have clarified everything. Sure, they or Arjun did not know Ovi's whereabouts in Australia. But once this was cleared, Arjun could have told Ovi about the inquiry in the next communication and things could have turned out differently. This is certainly a question of fairness as many have pointed out; but it is also about parental love in my view. And yes, people mature as they age from 20 to 40; but for parents, their child always remains a child no matter how old they grow.

I guess I have clarified my position. I do not need to say more. Others can take the thread further or truncate it the way want.

Once again, this is only a friendly gesture in the spirit of healthy debate.

Bye!

Edited by muse10 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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We can spend the rest of our lives debating over this issue but I am pretty sure Ekta will never clarify this 😆
She probably even forgot Ovi is Arman's daughter
Anyway, that said, if my parents disowned me for my other sister without even listening to me when I have a baby of my own then I would never contact them.
My point is Arman SHOULD have 100% talked to Ovi if not for her at least for Pia, doesn't Pia deserve her maternal family 😲
So either way, I think Ovi did the best thing of her life by not contacting Arman
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Parents' love is often unconditional. However, not all children are fortunate enough to get parents that love them unconditionally whether it be in real or reel life. The CVs have messed up just about every relationship in this drama, and didn't even spare the relationship shared between a parent and their child. They attempt to portray Archana and Manav as some ideal, loving parents when that is definitely not the case.
It is upto the parents to try to be as impartial as they can in any issue regarding their kids. Parents have every right to punish their kids, but not without first finding out the truth for themselves. So Purvi cried foul, it should have been their responsibility to find out the truth before taking such a drastic step of not only disowning their daughter but also their grandchild. The whole issue made no sense. Why would Arjun divorce Ovi if he wanted to keep having relations with her? The whole thing seems fishy and they should have looked into the matter. They were twice the age Purvi was, so even if Purvi might have misunderstood, all their maturity [at the age of 50 i guess] should have allowed them to think rationally about the situation and also convince Purvi to do the right thing. Chalo even if they decided to disown her in a bout of anger, but in 20 years they don't try to ever contact her? That is just ridiculous! They made it seem like Ovi did some criminal act, when their other daughter had done a similar thing and gotten forgiveness. A child may be difficult or even distant at times but that doesn't mean that parents can just abandon their kids. Because parents play a huge role in how their kid turns out, so if they believe Ovi to be a difficult and spoilt child, a part of it is because they themselves lacked good parenting skills.

They are just lousy parents. Manav raised Ovi and knew Arjun ever since he was a little boy but he still never felt that just maybe Purvi had misunderstood. He just went along with Archu's flow who keeps doing 'meri Purvi' since all of Purvi's sanskaars are only a result of her own mahaan parvarish. And Archu dearest should be an example of what a mother shouldn't be like. When Arjun came to Canada and was living at Ovi's place after his tiff with Purvi, Archana is telling Ovi to try to talk to Arjun about his argument with Purvi since she was such a close friend. What sort of mother can even ask her daughter to help her fix the marriage of her ex husband with his new wife who happens to also be her sister? There have been countless such scenarios where they have showed favoritism among their kids. Neither of them could be good parents, so for Ovi to even expect that they would be impartial [esp in matters concerning Purvi] and offer her unconditional support would be very foolish on her part.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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why do we keep arguing on whether ovi should have clarified or whether arman should have called. the full story of arman-ovi seperation hasn't even been revealed yet. pple getting worked up over non existent storylines 😆😆😆

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