Who should have called Ovi or Armaan?W Pg.15

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 11 years ago

#41

Mayur made a very good point

its not just Ovi that Manav knew , it was even Arjun as a little boy ...he KNEW them while this girl Purvi was not really known to him . All he knew was she did 'Baba Baba' , boasted of her mother's sanskaars and had done some upsetting kaands . She chaimed to have Archana's sanskaars but it was SHE who had been unwed mother , and done hidden marraige and changed babies , she claimed to be right but it had been SHE who had done shocking things . So trusting her tales implicitly and not giving the human beings he saw since they were kids the benefit of doubt was where Manav failed miserably as a parent . Archana was always narcissistic and egoistic , she saw herself in Purvi so would ALWAYS support her , so her bias as a parent was natural . Even now she is selecting jewllery for her third whimsical marraige . But Manav as a parent shows failure .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago

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onirfans

@onirfans

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Posted: 11 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: sunflower52
@onirfan, my post was about Ovi not Purvi.

There was no need of dragging Purvi in my post. I guess Arjun and Purvi has not said anything to Armaan yet because Ovi does not want them to know.

I am finding this storyline silly anyways.

@ sunflower ...ur post is about only ovi but my post is about child vs parents ...i am not dragging purvi but wanted to be comments on the thread topic and tried to neutral thats i admit ovi 's wrong and also some other points of ur which is included to TM ...

not necessary to feel bad where ur topic is only for one but my topic is not only for purvi but for every one so just chill ...so why hyper purvi is out from pr ? no na

so left biasness and think any child really respect arman decision except teju....in my pov teju is only one good child of arman ...

and ovi want to meet her parents from bottom of heart but she can not due to arjun's acting ...she herself cry for her bad situation where she could not meet her parents even after 20 yrs...it s arjun who afraid and not want to reveal anything and force to ovi to put act so that purvi will be stay away from her...

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#43

I too agree if we just take Arman, Manav failed miserably. Archana never really cared about her kids, she didn't even try find about the twin during the first 18 yrs, so as a Mother - I guess she gave all her love to her only daughter Purvi. But Manav - he was the one who took care of his kids, knew Arjun throughout - shouldn't he be the one more balanced than Archana. But, then Archana''s beautiful face has great powers - one can't disregard that either😉😆

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Ume Salma Kakal

@sunflower52

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Posted: 11 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: onirfans

@ sunflower ...ur post is about only ovi but my post is about child vs parents ...i am not dragging purvi but wanted to be comments on the thread topic and tried to neutral thats i admit ovi 's wrong and also some other points of ur which is included to TM ...

not necessary to feel bad where ur topic is only for one but my topic is not only for purvi but for every one so just chill ...so why hyper purvi is out from pr ? no na

so left biasness and think any child really respect arman decision except teju....in my pov teju is only one good child of arman ...

and ovi want to meet her parents from bottom of heart but she can not due to arjun's acting ...she herself cry for her bad situation where she could not meet her parents even after 20 yrs...it s arjun who afraid and not want to reveal anything and force to ovi to put act so that purvi will be stay away from her...

You are right about one thing Teju is the only good child of Armaan. Teju has always respected Armaan decisions and she has a good sense of right & wrong.

That sense of right & wrong Purvi and Ovi sadly lack.

If Ovi really wants to meet her parents, she should listen to her instincts and put a full stop to this charade. The truth always comes out whether you want it or not.

When it comes to relationships, Purvi has low self esteem when it comes to love and Ovi has this fear of losing that is why she clings on to that person she cares about.

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Trisha

@-Trishh-

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Posted: 11 years ago

#45

And so the bashing continues. No... Not bashing but comparing. I would like to say tht the point of this post is not to compare Purvi and Ovi, but whether Ovi should have called or Armaan. And now I would want to tell my POV on the topic that we were supposed to be originally debating about.
So my opinion is tht both Ovi and Armaan should have called each other. Ovi had to call to clear the misunderstanding about Pia. Armaan had the responsibility as parents to clear up misunderstandings between their children.
However we don't fully know if either side had tried to contact each other. Armaan couldn't have called because of they did they would have to call Arjun for tht. And we know tht Arjun won't miss the opportunity to talk to Armaan. Just with one quod kcal to Arjun they would find out Ovi is not with Arjun and the misunderstanding would have been cleared long time back. But the misunderstanding is not cleared, so tht probably isn't a possibility. However, it's quite possible tht Ovi called, but they didn't listen to her. If Armaan had rejected Arjun's calls why would they receive Ovi's. They were under a misunderstanding that both Ovi and Arjun had betrayed Purvi, right? So O won't make any definite judgement yet.
However, I still think tht Armaan had more of a responsibility to call Ovi. Since they hold the role of parents. And they were supposed to be awesome parents too,right? Even of Ovi was being stupid, u would think tht because they r older they would have more maturity. However, I'm not saying tht Ovi shouldn't have called Armaan. She should, but they has more of a responsibility to call Ovi than vice versa.

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Trisha

@-Trishh-

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Posted: 11 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: pallavi25
And I dont understand why Ovi is constantly being refered to as a child!😆
While Purvi is constantly called a middle-aged woman of 46 yrs!😕

So Ovi is still a child at 42! But Purvi is now middle-aged! What discrimination!!
Just because Ovi is Princess Ovi, bio child of the Golden couple so she is still a child, while Purvi is the adopted/ foster child so she is already middle aged!😆

In the PR I watched, Purvi was at least 6 months younger than Ovi and Teju!

I don't think u have read the posts properly. They were not calling Ovi a child in general. Since she is also a middle aged woman. But, they were calling her the child of Armaan. And tht holds the same for Purvi. No matter how old the child gets, they will always be ur child. And some ppl were also calling her a child because when ur 19, ur somewhat of a child since ur in ur teenage years

Edited by samarth300 - 11 years ago

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soniiyaa

@soniiyaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: samarth300
And so the bashing continues. No... Not bashing but comparing. I would like to say tht the point of this post is not to compare Purvi and Ovi, but whether Ovi should have called or Armaan. And now I would want to tell my POV on the topic that we were supposed to be originally debating about.
So my opinion is tht both Ovi and Armaan should have called each other. Ovi had to call to clear the misunderstanding about Pia. Armaan had the responsibility as parents to clear up misunderstandings between their children.
However we don't fully know if either side had tried to contact each other. Armaan couldn't have called because of they did they would have to call Arjun for tht. And we know tht Arjun won't miss the opportunity to talk to Armaan. Just with one quod kcal to Arjun they would find out Ovi is not with Arjun and the misunderstanding would have been cleared long time back. But the misunderstanding is not cleared, so tht probably isn't a possibility. However, it's quite possible tht Ovi called, but they didn't listen to her. If Armaan had rejected Arjun's calls why would they receive Ovi's. They were under a misunderstanding that both Ovi and Arjun had betrayed Purvi, right? So O won't make any definite judgement yet.
However, I still think tht Armaan had more of a responsibility to call Ovi. Since they hold the role of parents. And they were supposed to be awesome parents too,right? Even of Ovi was being stupid, u would think tht because they r older they would have more maturity. However, I'm not saying tht Ovi shouldn't have called Armaan. She should, but they has more of a responsibility to call Ovi than vice versa.

Thank you! This is what i was saying! This was about Ovi and Arman not about bashing or comparing. But it usually turns into that sadly!

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 11 years ago

#48

, I still think tht Armaan had more of a responsibility to call Ovi. Since they hold the role of parents.

Precisely my views . Once they rooted for the foster daughter , Archana pointed fingers and took side of 'pyaar' by playing loveguru and Manav went to do her kanyadaan and what not to please his wife . The biological daughter swallowed it all and accepted them after some time . Actually the foster daughter had broken away her fiancee and a fixed marraige ...yet these parents had rooted for her . But what each time . Har waqt these parents , especially the mother blindly believe this foster daughter and the father looks at mother's face and says yes yes . If the foster daughter had found 'pyaar' why the hell did she ditch him and was away from him for 20 years , makes any sense . The argument of the biased mother to justify her rooting back then was 'he is sahi for Purvi' ...what kind of justification was that , r there any parameters for 'sahi' . And if he was so sahi , what was the foster daughter cribbing about now . It was THEIR duty to find out the truth of the 'sahi' man . The double hurt of the biological daughter ...biased parents who never were there for her is fully understandable .

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sowmya

@Not_a_fan

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Posted: 11 years ago

#49

Muse10, great topic and 👏 for your efforts to be as focused and neutral as possible. Loved reading your post and others as well.

For me, there's no question ARMAN as parents should have made the effort to contact Ovi, to know and understand the truth and support her even as they punish her. They could give her as many slaps as they wanted, kept her under house arrest or let her do her own thing depending on the situation and their interpretation of it, but never, never should they have cut her off so completely and cruelly. I agree with you that with parents and only with them do we find unconditional love and support even if there is a breach of trust. I am okay with them thinking that Ovi hid the truth and that she was up to something wrong, but I am not okay that they not only failed to find out the truth but abandoned her and her daughter based on their (false and unverified) interpretation.

Not trying to bring in other characters just for the heck of it, but Archana's and even Manav's behavior when purvi's and pari's truth was very different. Manav refused to believe Ovi when she first told the truth in the party, it was only after he saw the video footage that he did. He bailed Onir out even when he wasn't talking to purvi, he didn't forbid purvi from meeting archana or any other family member even if he himself didn't want to meet her and the Deshmukh house became the command center when pari was kidnapped. When archana learnt the truth, she privately spoke to purvi and Ovi trying to understand what happened and why. When she "disowned" purvi, she confessed to manav the ver same episode that she was still worried about both purvi and pari. She went to invite purvi and onir for the family gathering even though at the time purvi was "disowned". Purvi still had Onir then and seveal members of the family were keeping tabs on purvi even when she was out of favor with them. Even when she was supposedly disowned, she was still part of the family and the family made all the efforts to show that. These are facts as shown by the show. And though I dislike purvi very, very much and think she didn't get enough punishment, as parents I think they did right.

Where is/ was this worry, this concern, this need to include Ovi in the family even while they wanted to punish her? Why did they not try to find the truth in this case? I would have been totally fine if Ovi had gotten several slaps to set her straight, I would have been fine if Manav (who Ovi is closest to) stopped talking to her to punish her, I would have been fine with any punishment as long as they made it clear to her through their actions or words that she was still family and as difficult or messed up as she was (like all their children), she was going to get help while she thought through her actions, figured out her life and raised Pia.

Even now that they know the truth, I don't see any concrete efforts to locate her. Still, purvi is their main concern. Purvi could be their favorite daughter, but her life as they know it right now is uncomplicated and on the path to being resettled soon. On the other hand, they don't know anything about Ovi or Pia, even if they are dead or alive. They know now she's been alone for the last 20 years and that they have wronged her, still they are not moving heaven and earth to find her. Any normal parent would, even after the huge lapse of judgement of disowning a child based on assumptions. And here, these are supposed to be the leads, supposedly the ideal. It's simply unfathomable and frankly, disgusting.

Edited by sowmya_jairam - 11 years ago