Vrish,
Originally posted by: .Vrish.
You seem to be getting your info more from serials than from texts. I've read about Narayanastra in only one place - the Mahabharata. It is mentioned after the death of Drona, when Ashwatthama tries to wipe out the Pandavas w/ it after getting that news. It had only one way of getting neutralized - the target completely disarming and surrendering b4 it. If that happened, the weapon would return w/o hurting that target, and couldn't be re-used against the same targets. Krishna revealed this to the Pandava army and saved them. There is no mention of this weapon being available to Indrajit, and nor did he have the sudarshan either. I'd be interested to know if it was indeed used against Mahadev, as depicted in this serial.
No i am not basing this on serials I am basing in the Ramayan as there was reference made in the Valmiki Ramayana - Yuddha Kanda. That Indrajit and Lord Ram both used it but it was useless by Indrajit to use it. And No it was not used against Mahadev this Indrajit we are talking about and I didn't find any use of on against as that never happened.I was simply saying that in the show they used Narayanastra by Indra against J that the reason it could've stopped by S. Chakra. I am talking about S. Chakra vs. Narayanastra not Narayanastra vs. Mahadev. The only reason that even brought up this topics this relates to Vrinda and J Story track in i didn't want to start a another topics pertaing Vrinda and J track. I remmber and correct if i am wrong mnx12 said any discussion related to Vrinda and story should be contained here. If i am in the wrong them i am sorry.
Originally posted by: .Vrish.
The case about that curse being important to Narayan/Lakshmi devotees is laughable
Thats your opinion which you have right to say. But I also i have a right to opinion to state my opinion to what I believe as a Vaishnavite as for the curse being important.
Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Narayan could easily have set up a leela requiring the use of a shaligram stone and a tulsi plant w/o violating Vrinda. It's a legitimate debate on whether he did the right thing by Vrinda by betraying her, but having neutralized her power to shield Jalandhar, he should have stopped there, and not made Vrinda an object of his worship, specially when Vrinda reviled what he had done. In the light of this story, it's only possible to sympathize w/ Rama & Sita if one considers them separate from Vishnu & Lakshmi. Vishnu did not suffer at all for his deed - and no, Rama's misery doesn't count.
I personaly don't think he violated Vrinda as per current violation defintion. I believe he violated her per ancient defintion by siting with her during a puja which in those days was a violation per scripture. If you remmber Ramayana Lord Ram couldn't perform Yagna without a wife and he wasn't willing to get married again so he per sciripture had a gold statued made of her.
My belief is all the Tridevs are above curses made to them by devtas,asur, and humans. Curses made by one Tridev to other tridev holds.
The curses made to the tridev by everyone else other then the tridevs is accpeted by the individual tridev and applied to the way they see fit. It there goodness that they even respect curses made my there devotees and sages and those action are not up for review. So yes my belief Lord Ram missery does count. Nothing is Above the the Tridev and everything is below the tridev ( Devas, Asur, us Mortals.) There authority is absolute and can not be judge by us lower being and that why they call the tridev supreme over all.
BTW there are weapons far more power that was introduced by Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna during dwarpar yugaa after the mahabharat war and no i didn't get from any serial.
S. Chakra (wielded by Lord Narayan and Goddess Shakti ) vs. Narayanastra
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