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Do u think indra is actually as evil as he's shown in DKDM?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well we ll know Devaraj has done things that he shouldn't have done.
Ex: In ramayana he tricked poor ahalya by dsguising as gautam rishi and poor lady had to remain as a rock for so many years.

He even wanted to destroy rishi vishwamitra's(i hope i got the name ryt) tapasya so he sent apsara's to break his penance.
In Mahabharata he took away Karna's kavach kundala.

In Krishna Leela he was angry that ppl stopped worshipping him so he thought of destroying vrindavan n its innocent ppl by relentlessly causing rain (thats when lord krishna lifted govardhan parvat)

Ok there have been 1-2 instances in all mythos with indra as -ve person.😆

But good lord in DKDM. Indra ne sare limits cross kar diye hain😕
Brainwashing people(ex: kartikeya, now J😆), killing innocent women(J's mom😕) backstabbing(vritsasura) fake boasting and fake pride😕 attempting to burn parvati 😡
belitting kartikeya the list is endless...

Is Indra so much evil. I feel he's shown such a villian😆 that after seeing indra we may start loving the asuras.🤣 Poor people whats wrong in asking for your rights😆 Kitne innocent hain bechare asuras🤣

Humare bhole bhale asur😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
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i go with first option...duniya idhar se udhar ho jaaye..bt still Indra-kamina ka kamina hi rahega...😆🤣...n i LOVE to believe tht ONLY..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nikki_SAS-holic

i go with first option...duniya idhar se udhar ho jaaye..bt still Indra-kamina ka kamina hi rahega...😆🤣...n i LOVE to believe tht ONLY..



may be ur ryt. coz in every mytho indra ki koi na koi -ve activity hoti hi hain🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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n truly indra ke saamne...asur bhi "ache" hai...🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nikki_SAS-holic

n truly indra ke saamne...asur bhi "ache" hai...🤣



asur are considered evil as they misuse their power.
to yaha indra kya kar raha hain.🤣

and prahlad bali etc. were considered as good asuras who were noble.

so how can indra who misuses his power be considered as devaraj?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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No , I don't think Indra was as evil as they are portraying him in DKDM . 😒
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Posted: 12 years ago
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As far as I know, indra was an insecure and power hungry person but I don't think he was as evil as he is shown in dkdm. The makers add lot of fictional tracks just to add ghee and masala in their tracks
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice topic. But I don't agree w/ any of the options above.

Indra's not evil, but that doesn't make him automatically kind hearted or pure minded. It's somewhere b/w options 2 & 4. In fact, it's better explained w/ an inline response below

Originally posted by: itstimetospeak

Well we ll know Devaraj has done things that he shouldn't have done.
Ex: In ramayana he tricked poor ahalya by dsguising as gautam rishi and poor lady had to remain as a rock for so many years.

Yeah, that was a vile act. His punishment came in the form of his defeat by Indrajit in battle (this is mentioned in the Uttarkand in Valmiki's Ramayan)

He even wanted to destroy rishi vishwamitra's(i hope i got the name ryt) tapasya so he sent apsara's to break his penance.


On this one, he was justified. There was the episode of Trishanku, who had the vain desire of wanting to get to heaven in his human form, violating natural laws. Vashistha declined to help him achieve that b'cos it was improper, his sons cursed him into becoming a chandala for wanting to get it no matter how, and Vishwamitra decided to support this unworthy project. When Trishanku reached Swargalok, Indra told him that he didn't deserve that place, having disobeyed his guru & being cursed by his sons. Vishwamitra created a parallel galaxy centered around Trishanku, which was the cause of Indra's justified animosity towards him, and hence the attempts by Rambha & Maneka to distract him from his goal.

In Mahabharata he took away Karna's kavach kundala.

I think the jury would be justified in being out on that one. On one hand, Indra did what he did to support his own son against Surya's. OTOH, Karna was rejecting appeals by Kunti & even Surya to recognize the Pandavas as his brothers, make peace w/ them and not encourage Duryodhan's obduracy. One can argue whether Indra did it out of his own vain desire to see his son win, or b'cos he was of the same opinion as Krishna re: Arjun vs Karna.

In Krishna Leela he was angry that ppl stopped worshipping him so he thought of destroying vrindavan n its innocent ppl by relentlessly causing rain (thats when lord krishna lifted govardhan parvat)

Again, mixed! People were worshiping him, since he brought rains to the plains, and Krishna got them to stop. I don't blame him for being miffed.

Ok there have been 1-2 instances in all mythos with indra as -ve person.😆

Some of them, like Krishna's battle w/ Indra over the parijat flower, are made up - one won't find them in the original Shrimad Bhagvatam. On Vritra, there are 2 accounts of why & how Indra killed Trisiras & Vritra, of which at least in one, Indra is justified.

However, in the Ramayan, Indra caused the death of Sagar's 60,000 sons by planting the ashwamedha horse in Rishi Kapila's ashram, so that they blamed him for it and were about to attack him, thereby getting reduced to ashes. Indra's reason for doing this was to deny Sagar the achievement of 100 yagnas, which so far, only Indra had achieved. In Kalidas' Raghuvansa, though not scripture, Indra steals Dilipa's horse and is involved in a battle w/ Raghu, who was accompanying the horse. In the Mahabharata, Indra gives shelter to his friend Takshasha, who killed Parikshit by biting him as a serpent. In DSS, Indra is responsible for the murder of Rambh, and hence the enmity w/ Mahishashur. He's also responsible for the death of Diti's eldest son - unprovoked.

Those are the main misdeeds of Indra that I can recall.

But good lord in DKDM. Indra ne sare limits cross kar diye hain😕
Brainwashing people(ex: kartikeya, now J😆), killing innocent women(J's mom😕) backstabbing(vritsasura) fake boasting and fake pride😕 attempting to burn parvati 😡
belitting kartikeya the list is endless...

Is Indra so much evil. I feel he's shown such a villian😆 that after seeing indra we may start loving the asuras.🤣 Poor people whats wrong in asking for your rights😆 Kitne innocent hain bechare asuras🤣

Humare bhole bhale asur😆

The asuras had more often than not been wronged, and part of their enmity w/ the devas was simply hereditary. Greatest example of this was in the Tripura story, where the asuras were deliberately led astray by the political machinations of Vishnu, Indra & Narada - initially, Mahadev declined to kill them since they were doing nothing wrong. Even after Hiranyakashipu's death, the devas had their wars w/ bhakt Prahlad - that wasn't a period of peaceful co-existence. Indra murdered Virochan, son of Prahlad out of pure jealousy over his managing to win Vishnu's favor, which is why Vishnu initially declined to support Indra when Bali was out to take revenge. But ultimately, due to Aditi's whining, he took the Vamana avatar & cheated Bali.

Mahadev & Brahma were more often than not fair to the asuras. But except for the Bali episode above, that was not true about Vishnu ever.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am not so sure about it...

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


On this one, he was justified. There was the episode of Trishanku, who had the vain desire of wanting to get to heaven in his human form, violating natural laws. Vashistha declined to help him achieve that b'cos it was improper, his sons cursed him into becoming a chandala for wanting to get it no matter how, and Vishwamitra decided to support this unworthy project. When Trishanku reached Swargalok, Indra told him that he didn't deserve that place, having disobeyed his guru & being cursed by his sons. Vishwamitra created a parallel galaxy centered around Trishanku, which was the cause of Indra's justified animosity towards him, and hence the attempts by Rambha & Maneka to distract him from his goal.

Some of them, like Krishna's battle w/ Indra over the parijat flower, are made up - one won't find them in the original Shrimad Bhagvatam. On Vritra, there are 2 accounts of why & how Indra killed Trisiras & Vritra, of which at least in one, Indra is justified.

However, in the Ramayan, Indra caused the death of Sagar's 60,000 sons by planting the ashwamedha horse in Rishi Kapila's ashram, so that they blamed him for it and were about to attack him, thereby getting reduced to ashes. Indra's reason for doing this was to deny Sagar the achievement of 100 yagnas, which so far, only Indra had achieved. In Kalidas' Raghuvansa, though not scripture, Indra steals Dilipa's horse and is involved in a battle w/ Raghu, who was accompanying the horse. In the Mahabharata, Indra gives shelter to his friend Takshasha, who killed Parikshit by biting him as a serpent. In DSS, Indra is responsible for the murder of Rambh, and hence the enmity w/ Mahishashur. He's also responsible for the death of Diti's eldest son - unprovoked.

Those are the main misdeeds of Indra that I can recall.

The asuras had more often than not been wronged, and part of their enmity w/ the devas was simply hereditary. Greatest example of this was in the Tripura story, where the asuras were deliberately led astray by the political machinations of Vishnu, Indra & Narada - initially, Mahadev declined to kill them since they were doing nothing wrong. Even after Hiranyakashipu's death, the devas had their wars w/ bhakt Prahlad - that wasn't a period of peaceful co-existence. Indra murdered Virochan, son of Prahlad out of pure jealousy over his managing to win Vishnu's favor, which is why Vishnu initially declined to support Indra when Bali was out to take revenge. But ultimately, due to Aditi's whining, he took the Vamana avatar & cheated Bali.

Mahadev & Brahma were more often than not fair to the asuras. But except for the Bali episode above, that was not true about Vishnu ever.

Please vote friends!!😆


Actually Indra's enmity with Viswamitra was because of his stinking singhasan. He was afraid that Viswamitra also would ask for Indrasan. After that Trishanku episode happened.
Regarding Parijat Tree, Sukadeva Goswami hints at it in BHagavatam. As in, he says, after Krishna returned the things, Satyabhama saw the Parijata tree. But even after that INdra refused to give. So Sukadeva hinted that the arrogance of the devas that they refuse to even give the Lord after he had helped them. To hell with them, and all..
And there are many other stories like INdra and the Maruts...
BUt even then, Indra has done many good deeds also.
SO I don't know...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think Devraj is an insecure charecter but not so evil. but that doesnt make him kindhearted either

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