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Posted: 12 years ago
sectoreight 😆😆 now that bird thing is not going from my mind

u tried ur best to help it . The character Sumi did not have any wish to help ...her son did but she thought , enough of it , why should i help it anyway , i owe nothing to her .

She was different earlier but her basic fears surfaced when she met someone who watered them and echoed her thoughts . It was then this thought always ...its so stupid really to take all this responsibility at the cost of your own safety .

While u gave up the bird helplessly coz u were misunderstood and attacked she wanted to give up the woman not to her protective parents but an enemy and was ready to make a deal with the abuser that fine , take her , but let us go .

Therein lies the difference .😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Koolsadhu,
the protective parents were worse than rattan singh believe me !! 🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sectoreight

Koolsadhu,

the protective parents were worse than rattan singh believe me !! 🤣


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Posted: 12 years ago
Sector eight, now I can't stop thinking about that bird 😭

The way I see it there is always more than one option. The ones that come to mind with me are:

You could choose to give up the bird (which you did). But you did so safely. You did not leave the baby bird out on the ground in the middle of the night or near a cats bed.

Or you could have chosen to stick it out with your protective sunglasses and helmet. 😊 So as to see the responsibility to completion.

The other major difference between your 'bird' case and Sumi's is that while you were taking care of the bird you did not bully that baby bird because his parents were attacking you. You still fed and nurtured it for however long it stayed with you (hope I'm right 😉)


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Posted: 12 years ago
I think you could have taken it to some veterinary hospital.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: hima_123

Just curious...do you, on everyday basis, do a lot of things for underprivileged children as well --as much as you do for your own child? (an officially adopted child is definitely your own child-he is not paraaya in any sense) Do you make sure that some other under privileged child goes to the same school like your own child goes to...will you ensure that he gets the same facilities like your child does? We all have seen a real Mannu somewhere, sometime, and felt for him..and moved on. It would be great to know if some of us have actually given a real life Mannu...opportunities equal to their own children.

I am sorry if I am asking too many questions; I am just curious--you may choose to ignore.


At some point the adopted child started out as 'paraya'.

With that in light, if someone chooses to do good in a small way, is it necessary to ridicule that good by citing volume as a quantifier for quality of the good. So it's not the calibre of good but how many have been helped that becomes the cornerstone of doing good. If that was the case then nobody would help anybody.

In another thread I mentioned that everyone has their own school of thought on how charity should done. Just because someone has an idealistic thought on this does not mean that this person needs to be ridiculed on the basis of, 'hey you think like this, so how many have you really helped.'

By the same token one could say that the opposite mindset has 'given up' because of practical reasons.

It reminded me of this story:

While walking along a beach, an elderly gentleman saw someone in the distance leaning down, picking something up and throwing it into the ocean.

As he got closer, he noticed that the figure was that of a young man, picking up starfish one by one and tossing each one gently back into the water.

He came closer still and called out, "Good morning! May I ask what it is that you are doing?"

The young man paused, looked up, and replied "Throwing starfish into the ocean."

The old man smiled, and said, "I must ask, then, why are you throwing starfish into the ocean?"

To this, the young man replied, "The sun is up and the tide is going out. If I don't throw them in, they'll die."

Upon hearing this, the elderly observer commented, "But, young man, do you not realise that there are miles and miles of beach and there are starfish all along every mile? You can't possibly make a difference!"

The young man listened politely. Then he bent down, picked up another starfish, threw it into the back into the ocean past the breaking waves and said, "It made a difference for that one."


At the end of the day, Sumitra had a choice to decline helping Ganga. A choice she did not exercise. Her silence was taken as compliance in her family. If she changed her mind she should have vocalized it properly without natkhras and 'I told you so's. Jagya is her young son who is striving to be a better person, a better citizen. He has the idealism prevalent very much in youth. He has also seen his parents' consistent and patient support of Anandi during her crisis and also during her samaj seva, so it was safe for him to assume that he would also be afforded that same support now that he is back in the family fold. If Sumitra was still adamant about her rights within the house to not 'do good' for practical reasons then she should have been honest with Jagya so that he on turn could exercise HIS rights, by deciding to persevere or not. He could have chosen to move out in order to still help Ganga and not violate Sumitra's rights. But Sumitra did not even recognize his right either nor did she offer him a choice by just being honest in the first place. Her duplicity has landed her at the brunt end of all the criticism.

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