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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Another META TOPIC of the DAY.

Originally posted by 0-SD-0

river,

I am not sure how they plan to develop Rishbala story...but idealistically speaking, it is not the time for Rishbala. There's a long way to go...and until then, they can keep Madhu and RK thrown in together with each other all the time. In reality, when two extreme or opposites meet each other, they have a relationship going into years until they reach a point where they feel...they have nowhere to go from there than just get married or bid a complete good bye. Madhu and RK are so different from each other and yet so equal for each other that they should live their chemistry at this point...that chemistry should lead to a bond which gives them a sense of trust between each other with regards to the personalities they are, their personal space requirements, their comfort zones with each other and others and this should tell them if they are okay sharing their life with each other...as in two people not strangers, not friends, not acquaintances and yet knowing each other so well...that a time coming where you would ponder...do I want to tell him/her...that I have this problem going on right now...not seeking for his./her help...but just like that...this is not love...this is called sharing. Only then something between them can happen.

And for that phase to occur...they need to be continuously thrown in with each other, guage their attraction for each other, their needs, their independence...basically a sense of their own existence of how much it is complete or self-sufficient when the other is around. Until they understand this, Rishbala cannot happen and even if it happens, it will not be healthy.

Infact...this same thing is the plot line for Saraswati Chandra. The male and female protagonist are thrown together to assess their feelings and make something out of it or end it.

While that goes on...in parallel, Rishabh Kundra can be worked on to become normal. He has now a normal relationship with his mother. Long due slap from mommy and her Aye, Tu...those kind of addressals to the son, infact is magic outcome in the present context.

If Rishabh, who is responsible to his family for logical reasons, also becomes responsible towards his family for emotional reasons as well, then his bizarre drama will reduce. As in he would be able to have better ideas in dealing with scum like Dipali and idiot like Sikky, Right now he shoos them away like flies...but he runs the risk of being plagued by them...if he was not loathing or indifferent to them ...and he was truly respecting the underlying relationships of brother and sister-in-law, he would not have a big problem in showing them the door if they don't behave...he would never need an OUTT or Mocking tone. This is where Rishabh Kundra needs a HEART to grow...not just to understand Madhu's pain or HIS pain ...it is needed by him to understand life around him and the best way it can be harmonically balanced without him resorting to mocking drama.

IMO...hence Rishbala means...throw them together...weave stories around RK and Madhu and treat them for their irregularities...because they both are flawed and crazy, but inherently good persons, not knowing what mistakes they are committing until they get burnt... and this way they both fix flaws of other characters around them as well.

And we get entertained as well...in watching all this drama. I am sure you agree that...this is one drama these days, that actually makes us THINK...spiritually grow.

What a fascinating discussion - where do Rishbala go from here and how will the creators execute the HEA?

I too thnking so! Why only male lead hav power why not dey show female lead in higher post!

The way I see it is like a NULL hypothesis. Madhu and RK can never be Rishbala again. And when I start the thesis from this point, my first observations are:

I am not sure if this line of thinking is completely correct, but somewhere, I feel Rishabh Kundra has made peace with himself that he loves the Madhu. I feel this, because when Radhaji twisted his own words yesterday (about his feelings never changing for Madhu), he did not speak anything to negate that. He almost acquiesces and looks away from her. He just does not want to come clean with his feelings and admit them to his mother, or Bittuji and of course even to Madhu. So, was that apology his way of further making peace with his feelings and move on with his life? That is how I am tempted to think of it.

Tomorrow Madhu will realize that Sultan's threat were not empty and he might actually end up harming RK, and inadvertently she would be the reason for this. As far as I have understood Madhu, she is going to take the onus of tackling Sultan upon herself without involving RK or her family, and in turn risking her life.

So, now for RK, it might not be about realization of love. It will be about realization of those mistakes he committed to spur her love and in turn push her away from himself. This whole gangster plot, IMO is to serve this purpose. Rishabh Kundra has to realize, that in the process of satisfying his ego at the cost of his love, he ended up distancing Madhu so much from himself, that she ended up risking her life for his sake, by getting embroiled in the dirty shambles of underworld. Also, her bonding with Aryan, has to add up to this. If not, I really have trouble understanding the purpose of this Aryan-Madhu bonding.

As to how their relationship should progress in the long run, I agree with Shri. They need to understand, how much they are dependent on one another or how much of each other they can take/can't take before calling it quits.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Another META TOPIC of the DAY.

Originally posted by 0-SD-0

river,

I am not sure how they plan to develop Rishbala story...but idealistically speaking, it is not the time for Rishbala. There's a long way to go...and until then, they can keep Madhu and RK thrown in together with each other all the time.

And for that phase to occur...they need to be continuously thrown in with each other, guage their attraction for each other, their needs, their independence...basically a sense of their own existence of how much it is complete or self-sufficient when the other is around. Until they understand this, Rishbala cannot happen and even if it happens, it will not be healthy.

IMO...hence Rishbala means...throw them together...weave stories around RK and Madhu and treat them for their irregularities...because they both are flawed and crazy, but inherently good persons, not knowing what mistakes they are committing until they get burnt... and this way they both fix flaws of other characters around them as well.

Nice post and perfect explanation. I think the part in bold answers the question why Madhu doesn't leave the job and move away from RK ... wrt why CV's are showing them together. Someone sent me a PM asking when I think Rishbala will be together again. My answer was the same; it will take at least 3-6 months for them to solve their differences and become Rishbala again. Everyone wants this to be a fast process, but it won't look logical if it happens so soon or suddenly. RK cannot change overnight, but if he does we're going to doubt his intentions ... whether it's true or another drama. The best we can do is sit and watch as the drama unfolds.

Originally posted by: pnars

In my estimation, there is enormous love on both sides, and whether consciously or subconsciously, they both know it. What is lacking is trust, and RK needs to work to rebuild trust in Madhu.

But before that, he needs to build trust in himself, that his feelings for Madhu are real and valid, and it is essential to acknowledge them. He must make himself worthy of her.

From Madhu's POV, she has to at some point make a leap of faith to trust this man again, the same one who performed a monstrous deceit on her. Because if you want to build trust you must start somewhere with the first brick.

Agree with you, trust is going to be a big issue for Madhu and a difficult mountain to climb for RK. How RK makes himself worthy of Madhu's trust will be interesting to watch. Even after they become Rishbala again there still might be differences and we might be shown temporary split/s, though of a shorter duration. That's how TV shows work and while MEEEJ is different but this formula will be followed here too, IMO.

What a fascinating discussion👏. Loved all your POVs. Can't wait for today's episode, even though we know he's going to publicly insult her once again.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

What I really don't understand at all is why would Rishabh Kundra act possessive about her? Why after the unwedding drama, does he still think he is her husband and she his Biwi. I would really want to take a make a Baigan ka Bharta out of him for even thinking like this. Why is he acting like a fool...If you took revenge, act like one who had it. But no...he is like Regina of Once Upon a Time. She is unhappy when everyone starts obeying her and no one fights her. She is bored of monotony. Even Rishabh is one bored guy looking for any kind of game.

Shri,

Isn't it very natural thing for him to act possessive? Right now, he seems to be of the thinking that she cannot have any other man in her life, simply because he wanted her to suffer after he dumped her. And when he sees her moving on within a week of their unwedding with another man, he is bound to react like this. I feel this is a very guy thing.

Another thing is, the man himself is clueless as to what he wants with his own life now that he can't control Madhu's life. So, he doesn't leave any opportunity to thrown in new games at her, even if it means acting all crazy and possessive about her.

The tender moment between then in Saturday's episode made me feel that things might change a bit. But one note from Sultan, and he is going to act all crazy again.

What pnars said about trust struck a chord. It got me thinking, in a somewhat tangential way, when we talk of RK's love realization, the first step is the somewhat superficial one - the recognition that yes, I cannot live without her, there is something between us that draws me to her again and again. But is that love? Or just potent chemistry?

Respect and trust are the other cornerstones of a relationship, and I'm not sure that he truly respects her - as yet. In my mind, if there was respect, the action of humiliating her at the unwedding would not have happened. And in doing so, he has shattered her trust in him. And on his side, what exactly does trust mean, in his dictionary? Does he trust her? BTW, talking about respect, remember during the Karwa Chauth episode where RK throws the plate of food ' he says something to the effect of respect is earned. Seems like its soon going to be time for him to remember his own words.

Showing the gradual building up of these layers of enduring respect, trust, love will take time. And how convincing the development of these layers is, will determine to what extent, if at all, Madhu forgives RK.

And in this phase, it is Madhu, and not RK, who will hold the key or the "power" in the relationship. I think back to Raghubir Shekawats comment about the power dynamic in the relationship, and how its been RK till now, and now its Madhu's turn. This is relevant to me not just from a dramatic cinematic storytelling aspect, but from a real life perspective too. My personal experience in my relationship with my husband is that power equations are constantly shifting. But underlying all this is the knowledge that if my husband has power, it is only because I give it to him - I trust him implicitly, similarly, if I have power, its because he gave it to me - in the same spirit of trust. Both of us trust that whatever actions we take, we have the other's best interest at heart (even if we might not necessarily agree with the specific action!) Power and trust are both linked. So yes, all this makes sense to me.

So the more I read everyones posts/thoughts, and think about this, the more I feel like this is going to be a long long journey. PS: the saat phere part that pnars referred to - that would be quite something to watch. For Madhu to even think of taking that step...wow.