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Posted: 12 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: nneeiill
mangalsutra is not an ancient tradition as is believed ..

we have put up so many links proving the fact..and there is not a single one which says ram tied mangalsutra...so i wont go this harsh on PH atleast for not showing mangalsutra..anyways we h ave debated this in last 5-6 pages...ab aur energy nahi hai to prove😆

sita wore choodamani..that was the mangal abhushan or symbol of marriage during ramayan times...

I'm not saying the links you provided were wrong, nneeil.😳 It's just that I don't buy much of the research that has been done on all these customs, you know why? Our India has gone through sooo much history, so many transitions, and ruled by all sorts of different people. The scriptures we have today are definitely not the originals, because several different tribes ruled India and many of them either distroyed the original content or changed them to interpolate their customs.

So how can we say the research that has been done is 100% true.😕 We cannot. Just as we cannot proove the existence of God, I also don't think we can prove the 100% validity of the scriptures we have today. Mangalsutra may or may not have existed during the treta yug. We will just never know for sure no matter how much research is done, because our India has gone through far too much transitions to determine indefinitely what happened or did not happen. So I think it's fair to believe either thing, that Sita wore a mangalsutra or she did not. We cannot say it's a FACT that Sita did not wear one, because we will never know what happened in the trata yuga despite the scriptures we have today. These scriptures are not 100% reliable.

So in the end of the day, just as we have unconditional faith in God, we must believe all these things on faith. If mangalsutra is a custom someone believes in, then they can believe Sita wore a mangalsutra. If it's not, then they can don't have to belueve in it. But nothing is a fact.

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EXOL

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Posted: 12 years ago

#82

@janaki...

the take away point is we need not be upset if mangalsutra is not shown...as simple as that 😳
i respect everyone's beliefs but its unfair if we want to thrust our beliefs on any show o...coz end of the day show makers must have some beliefs or reason too..

if we had not looked upon these links..the PH would have been blamed left,right and centre for showing a blunder..which would be been very very unfair...aint it...?

anyways...the discussion has now become somewhat redundant.. lol 😆

chalo me going back to study mode.

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Janaki

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Posted: 12 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: nneeiill
@janaki...

the take away point is we need not be upset if mangalsutra is not shown...as simple as that 😳
i respect everyone's beliefs but its unfair if we want to thrust our beliefs on any show o...coz end of the day show makers must have some beliefs or reason too..

if we had not looked upon these links..the PH would have been blamed left,right and centre for showing a blunder..which would be been very very unfair...aint it...?

anyways...the discussion has now become somewhat redundant.. lol 😆

chalo me going back to study mode.

Yes that is true, but to be on the safer side the Ramayan should show Sita Ma with a mangal sutra, because it's an ornament that has been very sacred and auspicious for women since centuries. Whether Sita Ma really wore it or not is something we won't be able to know, but when showing the characters the PH should be ready for some criticism if Sitaji is not shown with a mangalsutra, because we as the forum members here know that it's a debatable topic, but the general population doesn't know that. They have seen Sita with a mangal sutra in all previous mythological movies and shows, and if suddenly she is shown without it they will be shocked.

I know none of us will bash the PH for this, because we are discussing here in the forum what is athentic and in-authentic, but the general population may not know that so the PH should be ready for criticism by deviating from general belief. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's what may very well happen unless Sitaji is given a mangalsutra and also some jewelry in the next episode.

Yeah even I feel this topic has become redundant so I'm also going to return to studying.😆

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Varnita Khare

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Posted: 12 years ago

#84

Another thing that bothered me in the recent Episode is that, Sita didnt go to Kaushalya Maa to take her Permission for Vanvaas. In Ramcharitmanas it is clearly written that after hearing the news of vanvaas, SIta directly went to Kaushalya's chamber and fallen in the Lap of Wailing Kaushalya requesting to let her go with her Husband as she cant imagine to live a single second without him and till kaushalya didnt say yes, she didnt even ask Ram to take her along with him...Means offcoarse the agreement of Ram's Mother matters first for Sitaji and She showed her Respect and love for Kaushalya Maa by going first to her... but in Present Episode she didnt ask anyone and started removing her Jewells 😕 I cant understand why Directors are rushing the Important scenes like this? 😕

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Janaki

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Varnita.
Another thing that bothered me in the recent Episode is that, Sita didnt go to Kaushalya Maa to take her Permission for Vanvaas. In Ramcharitmanas it is clearly written that after hearing the news of vanvaas, SIta directly went to Kaushalya's chamber and fallen in the Lap of Wailing Kaushalya requesting to let her go with her Husband as she cant imagine to live a single second without him and till kaushalya didnt say yes, she didnt even ask Ram to take her along with him...Means offcoarse the agreement of Ram's Mother matters first for Sitaji and She showed her Respect and love for Kaushalya Maa by going first to her... but in Present Episode she didnt ask anyone and started removing her Jewells 😕 I cant understand why Directors are rushing the Important scenes like this? 😕

Even I was thinking that, Varnita, but I did not post that here because I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning, but it's true that Sita Ma took vanvaas only after the permission of Kashalya and Ram. She did not even ask Ramji here before removing her royal attire, which was not in tune with her character.🤔 Even Urmila showed more respect to her elders by appearing in front of them modestly and encouraging Lakshman to follow his duty. I love how Urmila was portrayed in this Ramayan, she was so mature and humble!👏 Sita's character in comparison needs to improve. I am not faulting Neha at all because she acts what she is given, but Sitaji is being shown as a saadhaaran stree and I don't like that. She was a strong and fierce character, not hasty and weepy. I did not like how Sitaji appeared in front of Ramji in vanvaasi clothes before even asking him for permission.

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Varnita Khare

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Posted: 12 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Even I was thinking that, Varnita, but I did not post that here because I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning, but it's true that Sita Ma took vanvaas only after the permission of Kashalya and Ram. She did not even ask Ramji here before removing her royal attire, which was not in tune with her character.🤔 Even Urmila showed more respect to her elders by appearing in front of them modestly and encouraging Lakshman to follow his duty. I love how Urmila was portrayed in this Ramayan, she was so mature and humble!👏 Sita's character in comparison needs to improve. I am not faulting Neha at all because she acts what she is given, but Sitaji is being shown as a saadhaaran stree and I don't like that. She was a strong and fierce character, not hasty and weepy. I did not like how Sitaji appeared in front of Ramji in vanvaasi clothes before even asking him for permission.

Even Before Ram She took the Permission of Kaushalya beacuse she know that Ram won't agree to take her with until his Mother agrees with it, Remember he even asked Lakshmana to take permission first from Sumitra and Urmila before agreeing to take him along and He also asked Hanumaan in Uttar Kand to take Permission from Sugreev for staying in Ayodhya, then how can he Take Kaushalya's Bahu with him without her Permission? Sita know this thing well so she first went to Kaushalya for her Permission and when Kaushalya has given her Permission, then only she asked Ram to take her along with him and Kaushalya supported her.

But in the Episode she didnt even ask Ram before putting the Hermit clothes,(which is actually another blooper since the Hermit clothes are given by kaikayi and not put by Ram Sita themselves) Let alone asking kaushalya 🤔 She should respect elders by taking their Permission but here she seems to be so self dependent. Neha is doing a good justice with her Role but I am really not liking how her character is written by directors...It dosent "Tune" Sita like you said. The whole thing is so rushed...Kaikayi is not supposed to open the vows infront of everyone, She only tells about them to ram and then Ram individually tells to everyone, It is written in all inportant versions of Ramayan weather it is Valmiki, RCM or Adhayatm...I dont know why such blunder mistakes are happening knowingly! 😕

The thing I really liked in the last Episode is the Portrayal of urmila, I loved how she is Portrayed like a strong lady unlike Sita who is shown so weepy. I have really fallen for Lakshmana-Urmila after the Farewell scene, Both actors have done a brilliant job in portraying their Emotions 👏 I really loved the mature and understanding way of bidding farewell by Urmila and the respect which was there in Lakshman's Eyes for Urmila During that scene.

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