Bhagowali's Bhaag: Profit by...**CLARIFICATION**

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Guys I'm really sorry... I should have just started a new post.

Back in April, Guddu pretended to be nice so that he could convince his dad to take the money for his mom's operation. Runjhun believed he had changed until she overheard why he was pretending to be nice. She went along with the charade anyway because she did not want to hurt Guddu's parents.

At that time I wrote the following post asking if it was better to take advantage of Runjhun's bhaag by being mean to her (Mami's) or by being nice to her (Guddu) with the assumption that Guddu was only being nice to Runjhun because he knew she is a Bhagonwali.

Now, the same issue has cropped up again except we know that Guddu is sincere. Runjhun however has that first experience in the back of her mind where Guddu did pretend to be nice in order to get something from her. When she finds out about his knowing that she is a bhagonwali, what will she think? Will she remember him lying to her before? Will she care? She is happy with Guddu. Would she rather go back to the M&Ms and be miserable as they exploit her or stay with Guddu and be happy? I'm sure Guddu will tell her that the M&Ms are just using her so she will think everyone just wants her for her bhaag. For Runjhun, what is better? People trying to profit by being mean or being nice? Guddu truly loves her but she has a seed of doubt right now. In her mind, if she thinks Guddu is doing this to take advantage of her bhaag, should it matter since he is making her happy?


Does that help?



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Original Post from April 4th 2011 (From the episode in which Guddu came back to PN and was nice to Runjhun so that she would go with him and tell his father that she was happy & his father would then accept the money for the operation... at the time we did not know WHY Guddu was being nice):


[Quote=Rani2007 April 4, 2011]Bhagonwali's Bhaag: Profit by Being Nice or Mean?

I was just thinking about this. We all hate the mama mamis because they are so evil and cruel to Runjhun even though she brings them luck. They torture her in order to take advantage of her luck. I always thought they should be nice to Runjhun since they benefit from Runjhun and it doesn't make sense that they hate Runhun. However, I don't know if I would like it if they were nice to her even though they really hated her.

Now... let's assume we agree that Guddu now knows Runjhun is a Bhagonwali and that is why he is being so nice all of a sudden. [Note: At this time we did not know that Guddu was being nice to Runjhun so that Dinanath would take money for Lata's operation...at this time we were trying to figure out why Guddu was being nice.. Runjhun thought he had truly changed...some of us had thought that Guddu was being nice because he had found out she is a Bhagonwali...at this time Guddu still hated Runjhun]

So, with that said, we have Guddu Shukla... faking being nice to Runjhun in order to win her over and probably to get her to help him bring luck to his family... i.e. cure Amma and gain wealth. Guddu's methods are deceitful... BUT by being nice to Runjhun he's actually going to make her happy - probably for the first time in her life.

What is better? Mama-mamis cruelty or Guddu's deciet? Runjun's misery or happiness based on lies? [/Quote]

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Today I am like this
So much to think about. Well, I don't like any of the M&M's, Kalsanwali has spilled hot oil on R's hands, they have locked her up without food/water, tried to kill AMMA. So to me they are murderers/sociopaths.
They all should be in jail for attempted murder.
Now, the deciet part, well first of all, these two are married. Even though its false happiness, R will experience it. To her, its real. She has never experienced happiness. Now, Guddu is not all that bad as the M&M's.
M&M"S are EVIL. Guddu Shukla has been shown to be aware of rights&wrongs. To me his turning point scene was the one when he went to see his Ma after 20yrs when she was in the hospital & he tells K that noone can change the past, when one makes a mistake. But one has the opportunity to redeem oneself. SO there is a conscience inside of G, that is dead but its there.
The difference is the m&m's don't have a conscience.
So, even if G is doing all what he is doing out of deception, his soul will awaken in him, & when that does happen, he will be the one deceiving himself, not Runjhun. Also, between R/G there is a bind of marriage that neither of them can escape, nor just wipe out.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Eclipse.....just like you I am also like
@ Rani......I will choose Guddu..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't think Runjhun has ever been happy for more than 5 minutes in this show. 😭😭😭

I hope Guddu continues his charade even though Runjun now knows the truth... at least he'll harass the mama mamis.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: EcliPSe_2010

Today I am like this

So much to think about. Well, I don't like any of the M&M's, Kalsanwali has spilled hot oil on R's hands, they have locked her up without food/water, tried to kill AMMA. So to me they are murderers/sociopaths.
They all should be in jail for attempted murder.
Now, the deciet part, well first of all, these two are married. Even though its false happiness, R will experience it. To her, its real. She has never experienced happiness. Now, Guddu is not all that bad as the M&M's.
M&M"S are EVIL. Guddu Shukla has been shown to be aware of rights&wrongs. To me his turning point scene was the one when he went to see his Ma after 20yrs when she was in the hospital & he tells K that noone can change the past, when one makes a mistake. But one has the opportunity to redeem oneself. SO there is a conscience inside of G, that is dead but its there.
The difference is the m&m's don't have a conscience.
So, even if G is doing all what he is doing out of deception, his soul will awaken in him, & when that does happen, he will be the one deceiving himself, not Runjhun. Also, between R/G there is a bind of marriage that neither of them can escape, nor just wipe out.



Eclipse... I agree... In some of the scenes today... it looked like Guddu was being genuine... like when she sat on the bike with them, etc. He also seems to be aware that Runjhun is made to do all the work in the house and knows it's not right but he doesn't care that they harass her...he's just supporting her for now. Let's see how his conscience grows back. I think I still prefer Guddy's charade over mama mamis nastiness.
Edited by rani2007 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Based on Mitho's revealing to Runjhun that she is a Bhagonwali... my old post popped into my head. I thought I would bring it back up and see what you guys think. For Runjhun, what is better? Profit by being mean or being nice? Guddu truly loves her but she has a seed of doubt right now. In her mind, if she thinks Guddu is doing this to take advantage of her bhaag, should it matter since he is making her happy?

Please see edited post above... sorry for the confusion... I'm not saying that Guddu is faking now... was just trying to reference the fact that he faked being nice before and Runjhun may remember that once she finds out that he knows she is a Bhagonwali.
Edited by rani2007 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What I don't understand is why Runjin even beleives Mitto Mami after she has been caught lying so much. Moreover, why doesn't Guddu tell Runjin the reason why mama/mammis wanted her around all this time. Runjin doubts Guddu when Mitto clearly tells her please stay here at we don't want to lose bag. But then she doubts Guddu's intentions. I am finding her character really hard to understand. She always trusts and sympathisizes with the toruturers but not her husband.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I pick guddu...

happiness until the truth comes out..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Man Rani, wow that would be a twist. Sorry if I am not following. So maybe the CV's are having Guddu again play at being nice and he changes back to his bad ways??? That is not what you are saying right?

You are saying that Runjhun's doubt can be based on the fact that he play-acted being nice once before for profit? But Guddu is good now and always, right?

Rani, you sure do think out of the box. Love it! CV's should hire you!!!!
Edited by jpalagrawal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: jpalagrawal

Man Rani, wow that would be a twist. Sorry if I am not following. So maybe the CV's are having Guddu again play at being nice and he changes back to his bad ways??? That is not what you are saying right?

You are saying that Runjhun's doubt can be based on the fact that he play-acted being nice once before for profit? But Guddu is good now and always, right?

Rani, you sure do think out of the box. Love it! CV's should hire you!!!!



Haila Rani, even the possibility of that breaks my heart 😭 and now apparently we also have a sadhu to deal with 👎🏼

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