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Posted: 16 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: jyoti06

3)Participating in KK activities is not a Sin for many people it was but a grt pride..then why she likes to hide it from everyone..b it her Maayka or Sasural people😕...If she can even go to the extent of stabbing Raj once😉,then I don't think its a big deal for her to tell everyone that she is going out to participate in the morcha😃

Jo dont forget she is a girl n era was 1940's.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Now if she does her KK activities secretly or openly it will defame Raj's family (before Takla). They will never permit her to do anything against british. Cant predict what will be kranti's next step. How she will maintain the balance. Colors is not showing any new promo
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Posted: 16 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: skeptical

Joey, I have to go out a bit but shall be back in 2 hours time. I am not going to let you get away with your lamba lamba bhashans. Then I shall give you my POVs. 😡

God, we never seem to stop. 😉 😆
Pluses for Raj?? OMG you guys are so good at conjuring........... SIGH !!!!!

😆😆Now I m scared Skepti😭😆..chalo u shoot..and then let the Pro-Raj camp come to the defence again😆😳..this is really fun😃..I hope Raj never changes or else what will we fight for then😕😆..Just kidding..he better change soon😡😆

Edited by jyoti06 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Now if she does her KK activities secretly or openly it will defame Raj's family (before Takla). They will never permit her to do anything against british. Cant predict what will be kranti's next step. How she will maintain the balance. Colors is not showing any new promo

Oh the recent promo hv just come out😛
The voiceover in the promo says "How far will Madhumati(bibi-rani) go to insult Kranti in front of the entire family"..then Kranti(looking beautiful in a red outfit) is looking cluelessly at Bibi-Rani who seems to b doing some drama of falling down from somewhere and showing everyone that Kranti is responsible for this😲;So then Bibi-Rani is shown crying and shouting when the other family members hold her in their arms and take her inside the room and give a hatred look towards Kranti while Bibi-Rani is shown giving an evil look of victory towards Kranti😕..
So looks like next week its going to b a complete family drama😛..now it will b interesting to watch that when Bibi-Rani starts this blaming game on Kranti,whether Raj comes in her defence or not😉,because Raj knows Kranti very well😳 and so he will also know that Kranti can never hurt someone physically😳..of course Rajveer himself is an exception😆😉..
Achha this was all about the new promo😃
Now my reply to earlier replies by Anshu and Purvi😃
Anshu..I agree Raj used illegal ways to win all the cases but for him those ways were Legal just because he considers Krantikaris to b Terrorists who r dangerous for this nation and so he believes that.. to end terrorism if he had to take Illegal route then its absolutel fair😊
That way even KKs took Illegal route to achieve freedom...I mean killing british officers by pouring petrol on them is not Legal either na😲😕...Also remember how Kranti and her KK friends were involved in that Amritsar-Lahore Firing and bomb blast..was it legal either ??..And what about Kranti trying to stab Raj ?/😉😆..Is it legal ??😲😆
We think its all legal because we as Indians feel KKs did the right thing to achieve freedom..that is taking on violence👏...but Raj thinks achieving freedom through violence is illegal and so he too decided to take the illegal route to finish these illegal activities..right/...😳
Therefore when it comes to Illegal activities or routes then both Kranti and Raj gets equal points here😉😆
Now comes another Mudda😆..
Purvi I know the era is 1942 and many families were against these KK activities during that time(My Grandpa was also a Krantikari in his times..so I know about it😭..In fact I mentioned about it in my earlier post also..Ena might remember it😳)...So thats why Kranti had to hide from everyone about her KK activities...But the reason which Kranti gave to Raj as to why she had hidden it from his family was not very satisfactory ...If she had hidden it for the betterment of Raj's family then fine but she seemed to b hving some sort of vengence against Raj and his family and wanted to insult them at least once in front of the britishers...and finally she succeeded that day..later of course she saw chaijee's pain and the reason why she was telling to herself that what she did to Raj's family was wrong to Raj's as they r becoming the sufferers now😭...
Oh between I m loving this healthy discussion👏👏..and remember we might hv different POVs ...but at the end of the day we all r friendss🤗😳
Edited by jyoti06 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: jyoti06

I guess this debate is not going to end for another one year😆...but well I m enjoying it😳...

Purvi agreed that Kranti has more feelings than Raj but does that make her perfect always ??😉..
Like Ena said ..both Raj and Kranti's characters hv flaws...they both r not picture perfect like those cleeshade characters we see in other hindi serials where the main leads can never go wrong😆..
I think its now quite clear that most of us don't watch the regular crap because we find MRD a bit different. I hope it stops short of becoming a run-of-the-mill types
The flaws which I found in Kranti r..
1)Marrying your biggest Enemy for Revenge was not expected from a Krantikari...I asked this question in another post also..that would Kranti marry Raj if he was some 60 yr old Buddha like her first husband just for revenge ??😉 In order to get revenge what makes you feel she wouldn't have? Remember she has laid down the rules, used every trick in the book to corner him and yet keep herself safe, and, can blackmail him. The flaw is in your theory not in Kranti
2)Kranti is suppose to b a very strong lady...then why she had to quietly go through all the tortures of the buddha party just to ignite the fire of revenge in her😕..Was that the only option left for a Krantikari..to quietly suffer at the hands of her Sasural people and when time comes even defend them telling that they r actually innocent ??😲,..She actually defended the buddha party in front of Nirmal-Sanjay na when she ran away because buddha's younger son tried to rape her😕..There are p'haps three reasons for this erratic behaviour.
a)She is highly obliged to mamaji being an orphan. Her reason for marrying the wolf was to bail out her uncle. How can she not return if he is to be freed?
b) She doesn't know what to say in her distressed state and that too in front of Sanjay a bosom pal of the Rat.
c) She had weeds growing in her head but when she had quietened down, she does confess everything to her sister.
3)Participating in KK activities is not a Sin but a grt pride..then why she likes to hide it from everyone..b it her Maayka or Sasural people😕...If she can even go to the extent of stabbing Raj once😉,then I don't think its a big deal for her to tell everyone that she is going out to participate in the morcha😃 She did what she did because
a)Manhoos mami hated what Tau ji did and she knew that my kudi doted on him. So for keeping the peace, she hid it from her and that idiot Lovely. However Mamaji and Nirmal both knew.
b) Her sasural is a bunch of yes-men. They want titles, show and pomp. No wonder the father - son duo are so subservient to the goras. So my kudi had to go without telling anyone. Like Manhoos mami they too would have made a hungama.
Now the qualities which Kranti possess r.. I agree
1)Kranti is always a very loyal,loving and caring daughter/sister towards her family members...including her Mamiji and always respected the decisions of her elder ones whether they r right or wrong👏
2)She is very passionate towards the freedom of her country and can go to any extent to help out her Krantikari friends😳
3)She is a very sacrificing type of a girl and believes in giving happiness to her loved ones even if it means sacrificing her own dreams and happiness😭👏
4)She is a very practical girl but at the same time shows her full respect towards the Elderly people even if they r as cunning as the Buddha party..
Now the flaws which I foundin Rajveer😃 Just three?? Don't be so lenient with that scumbag!
1)He has nothing to do with the freedom of his own country and believes that Indians r emotional fools who can never live together once the Britishers go out of this country(it was somewhat true afterall...because partition happened right after independence na😉😆..anyways thats a completely different story..will debate over it later😆😉)
a) cant see beyond his nose
b) Is a yes man. (puke)
2)He is shown to b a very self-obsessed character whose only priority in life is his family and his father's RB-Ship and to achieve it he can even take the wrong route in life
What is sauce for the goose is not sauce for the gander.... different set of rules for others. His family is of paramount importance. My kudi's family...? to hell with them???
3)He also has a bigitude problem and doesn't believe in apologizing to people who r lower in status than him even if he has done wrong to them😡.. You can say that again and again
Now the qualities which Raj possesses r😛 QUALITIES?????.........OMG
1)He is a Loyal Son and his family means a lot to him..he can never see the pain of his father and can even show his violent side if he sees his father is suffering because of him👏
I have explained this stupid stand of his in pt 2 above.
2)He respects Woman and also the institution of Marriage👏;He considers Marriage as a very sacred ritual even if he is tied to someone who is his biggest enemy;He considers it a lifelong commitment😳
He was forced into marriage at gunpoint. She has the upper hand and so he has to tolerate her. What faith in marriage are you talking about? Remember how he talked about Nirmal to Sanjay?
3)He sticks to his own set of principles whether right or wrong and doesn't bother what the world thinks about him👏...If he is loyal to britishers,he is sticking to his words...And his ideoligies can only b shaken in case he gets to see the ugly side of these people😊
That means he has a closed mind and a narrow mind.
4)He loves winning in life and sometimes its good to hv that killing insting in your heart because in the end even when u hv a change of heart,this quality of going on winning will come very handy to him😉😳
Ambitiousness is admirable if you play fair. If you play a dirty game, you lose character.
So till now the equation is pretty equal😉😛...Both r complimenting each other when it comes to the question of who is a better human being😊
There is no doubt that my kudi is a better human being unlike that Rat

Sorry have had to answer you this late. My 2 hours got stretched to 24 hours. Actually I am tired today. if there are typing mistakes, please bear with me. I was overpowered by work. 🤢
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Posted: 16 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: skeptical

Sorry have had to answer you this late. My 2 hours got stretched to 24 hours. Actually I am tired today. if there are typing mistakes, please bear with me. I was overpowered by work. 🤢Awww Skepti even I m tired of debating now😆😕,..a jaddu ki jhappi for u🤗..just take some rest and relax😳

.........And the war continues😆😃..
My Answers in Blue😳
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Joey chica, I am never tired of debates. Even tho you go on and on
split
split
split
split
split hairs.
But yesterday I was physically tired. My good friend had kept a Mata ki Chowki. I am not into this. But she had specially asked me to help out. And thats what I was doing. But I determinedly sat down to write stop your ramblings. 😡 Ultimately I realised I was rambling myself. 😉 hahahahahaha!!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: skeptical

Joey chica, I am never tired of debates. Even tho you go on and on

split
split
split
split
split hairs.
But yesterday I was physically tired. My good friend had kept a Mata ki Chowki. I am not into this. But she had specially asked me to help out. And thats what I was doing. But I determinedly sat down to write stop your ramblings. 😡 Ultimately I realised I was rambling myself. 😉 hahahahahaha!!!!!

Skepti even I m not too good in these debates and stuff😆..but when u really hv some healthy discussions going on and the atmosphere too is good then I enjoy such debates where another person's opinion or POV is not taken personally😳...
So now all u need is some rest..and then from tomorrow again we can start with our RK-Jaap...which is nothing less than any Mata ki Chowki or Jaagran😉😆😳

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