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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

When Raj twists her hand and tells her that don't force me to do something I hv never done before..that time Raj also tells one very important sentence right after that..he says "Like other Krantikaris..please don't give your own life also"😳😳..I m sure that statement came straight out of Rajveer's heart only and it clearly indicated that Raj was only scaring her with those death threats just because somewhere in his heart he did hv concerns for his Wife and wants to protect her from the Britishers😉😳...When a person is really furious,that time only a person blurts out few hidden truths..and yesterday Raj did exactly that😉😳..
Even when he was discussing Satnaam Singh's case with his Lover Takla😆,that time too in the end when the Takla said that if he fails to win the case then it will b proved that Kranti is a KK,made Raj all nervous because I don't think he wants to loose Kranti now😳...I know Raj is worried about his father's RB-Ship too but if he wanted he could hv told Takla the entire truth of how Kranti blackmailed him to marry her...I m sure Takla would hv helped him in getting rid of Kranti too😉...but Raj himself admitted that he is not interested in winning medals at the cost of losing her😳...Ok he told the statement in a rude manner to Kranti but indirectly the meaning is the same na..that he wants to protect Kranti from the britishers😳...
The only problem which is still there with Raj is his loyalty towards the Britishersand he wants Kranti too to follow his path ...the day this difference of opinion between them gets resolved..I m sure both will fall in love😳...
Oh and regarding Raj's controlled performance yesterday..well it was just top class👍🏼..he is suppose to b a Meano in the scene and he portrayed it perfectly👏👏😳

I had answered to most of your points in your update post Jo, but one thing that you have mentioned here.. Raj's statement, "Dont lose your life like other foolish KK's" actually speaks a lot.. He was not angry then, he was sensitive, why??? Care for her? Husbandly concern??? Hard to say.. but it was a leading statement.
And Jo, he was not portraying being a meano in this whole face off.. he came across as a very very furious husband, who was blazing in anger because his wife had besmirched the family name, and his father had collapsed bcoz of that. I dint think he wanted to portray a meano..😲
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: morningdew

My stray thoughts on the above observations:
Why did my kudi want to kill him? It was because he deliberately hoodwinked that man who was running the newspaper/press (Jassi's father) which was incidentally on the land that belonged to K's father. She lost that. Didn't he usurp the papers and them over to Taklu? Was that not cheating her? An orphaned girl at that. He had lived (under guise) long enough in mamaji's house to know how well K was being treated by mami ji. Staying there and then using the knowledge of the family imbroglios to his advantage was diabolic. No wonder she is furious enough to want to murder him. 😡
Hmmmm.. so Kranti's reason to want to murder Raj, and going as far as the actual act is justifiable, but Raj's mere warning is not? 😊 When he saw his father almost have a cardiac arrest because of her deeds.. Dont think so Skep.. the balance shud weigh equally, both sides..

waht Raj did in his first case was very unprofessional. he cheated his own client. I m a law student. a lawyer ought not do such such things. what Raj did in his first case was very very unprofessional n unethical
What kranti tried to do was also wrong but she was scolded for that by mamaji n sohan tauji n she repented for that
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Posted: 16 years ago
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guys dont forget kranti suffered a lot in her past. Directly or indirectly it was Raj who ruined her family. he is the cause of her marrige with that buddha.
Kranti never insulted Raj's family members. She didn't joined KKs for insulting Raj. she just wanted to do her duty as a patriot by joining the satnam singh morcha. though she told Raj that she did so to insult him but we know that this was not her real motive. she is involved in such activites even before she met Raj. She gave those harsh replies to Raj because of her hatred n anger toward Raj whom she thinks responsible for her n her family's miseries
Kranti hurt Raj's family members unintentionally
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

guys dont forget kranti suffered a lot in her past. Directly or indirectly it was Raj who ruined her family. he is the cause of her marrige with that buddha.

Kranti never insulted Raj's family members. She didn't joined KKs for insulting Raj. she just wanted to do her duty as a patriot by joining the satnam singh morcha. though she told Raj that she did so to insult him but we know that this was not her real motive. she is involved in such activites even before she met Raj. She gave those harsh replies to Raj because of her hatred n anger toward Raj whom she thinks responsible for her n her family's miseries
Kranti hurt Raj's family members unintentionally



I completely agree to that ... she went to the morcha as a krantikari, and was doing her duty..., I do not think, she even thought for a moment that she will be caught for shouting slogans, and put behind bars, and governor's son will be questioning her about the family and etc.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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the episode was very nice.. RAJBIR did an excellent job.. marvellous...
all points goes to him...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: morningdew

I had answered to most of your points in your update post Jo, but one thing that you have mentioned here.. Raj's statement, "Dont lose your life like other foolish KK's" actually speaks a lot.. He was not angry then, he was sensitive, why??? Care for her? Husbandly concern??? Hard to say.. but it was a leading statement.
And Jo, he was not portraying being a meano in this whole face off.. he came across as a very very furious husband, who was blazing in anger because his wife had besmirched the family name, and his father had collapsed bcoz of that. I dint think he wanted to portray a meano..😲

Ena that Meano part which I mentioned was mainly for the Anti-Raj party's reaction😉😆😛...I know he never sounded like a Meano yesterday😳...he was just a Son caught between his father and wife😭😆...And even though he twisted Kranti's hand once but he also made sure that she din't get hurt even once😉😳...In fact I hv seen so many Ekta serials where the hero for no specific reason just slaps the heroine😲.😕..thank god Rajveer is not one of those Ekta type heroes😳...
And the best part about the RK Fight was Raj giving full authority to Kranti and addressing her as this Ghar's Izzat and Bahu😳...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I completely agree to that ... she went to the morcha as a krantikari, and was doing her duty..., I do not think, she even thought for a moment that she will be caught for shouting slogans, and put behind bars, and governor's son will be questioning her about the family and etc.

Anshu and Purvi if Kranti's intention was not to hurt Raj's family then like Raj said why din't she tell the family and then go😉..what was the need to run out of the house secretly and join the morcha ??😕...this act of Kranti proves that joining the morcha was of course her duty but other than that she also wanted to embarass Raj and his family in front of the Britishers...in fact Kranti herself admitted this na😕...thats the reason why afterwards Kranti feels bad or guilty about Chaijee's condition and tells to herself that why is she taking revenge from the ladies of this house who hv nothing to do with her pain and agony😳..
I know Kranti suffered a lot due to Rajveer and even Raj-Camp wants Rajveer to suffer only at the hands of Kranti only😉..but at the same time we do not support Kranti's act of taking revenge from Raj's family who r not at all responsible for the mess in Kranti's life;I mean Raj did the same thing...to settle scores with Kranti..that is he trapped her Mamaji..right😕...so now if Kranti too uses Raj's family to settle scores with him ..then whats the difference between Raj and Kranti ??😕...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Jyoti I agree that that Raj is not a Ekta-serial type hero. Hero in those serial sometimes go to the extent of raping heroine. the heroine then graciouly forgive him. I hate those serials n such heros.
Rajveer is a cool, calm n composed man. he respects women. I love him for that
But kranti is also very soft inside. mamiji n lovely treated her like a maid servent but still she she used to respect them a lot. she too is a very well behaved girl. Rajveer never suffered what kranti has suffered from her childhood
kranti's intention was not tho hurt Raj's family. she told those harsh words to Raj only out of anger. she could've told those words bfore the whole family. in her room (i mean their room) she was unaware that Raj's mother is listening. Her intention was only to hurt Raj.
How soft is her heart . its she who first realised that she is hurting the family members
Had she intentionally hurt Raj's mother she wud have never repented for that. she immediately felt shamed of her harsh words when she saw Raj's mother. this shows that never ever wanted to hurt Raj's family
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: an12345678



I completely agree to that ... she went to the morcha as a krantikari, and was doing her duty..., I do not think, she even thought for a moment that she will be caught for shouting slogans, and put behind bars, and governor's son will be questioning her about the family and etc.

Purvi, you are right abt one thing, the press case was won by fraud.
As for the morcha, it came from the horse's mouth, going to the morcha was one thing, but she went stealthily to humiliate Raj in front of his family, and to cause his family worry.
She hurt them intentionally..
So, she is not completely innocent there..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Jyoti I agree that that Raj is not a Ekta-serial type hero. Hero in those serial sometimes go to the extent of raping heroine. the heroine then graciouly forgive him. I hate those serials n such heros.

Rajveer is a cool, calm n composed man. he respects women. I love him for that
But kranti is also very soft inside. mamiji n lovely treated her like a maid servent but still she she used to respect them a lot. she too is a very well behaved girl. Rajveer never suffered what kranti has suffered from her childhood
kranti's intention was not tho hurt Raj's family. she told those harsh words to Raj only out of anger. she could've told those words bfore the whole family. in her room (i mean their room) she was unaware that Raj's mother is listening. Her intention was only to hurt Raj.
How soft is her heart . its she who first realised that she is hurting the family members
Had she intentionally hurt Raj's mother she wud have never repented for that. she immediately felt shamed of her harsh words when she saw Raj's mother. this shows that never ever wanted to hurt Raj's family

I agree with everything you say Purvi.. except for the last bit.. while marrying Raj, Kranti had explicitly stated that she wud ruin him and his family.. she admitted the same thing when she went to the morcha stealthily.. she wanted to cause Raj;s humiliation, and his family's worry. Her own quote, "gehun ke saath.."
But I guess, Chaijee looking at her with silent reproving eyes, has evoked a conscience in her.. she has now realised these ppl are too decent, and have been nice to her, even though she came with no other thought than to cause them pain, they havent said anything to her..
Hence , now her turmoil, and guilt.
This is something I have been saying for a long while.. personal warfare is one thing, family shudnt be involved.. there are many ways to extract revenge. Raj did that, he was wrong, and now K has realised she is wrong too.

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