Violence Against Women: A Crisis Society Can No Longer Ignore. - Page 3

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Posted: 11 days ago
#21

Fortunately, there are also men who could evolve through their education and who can give their set of good values to the next generation.

I think that there are both - certain genes which gets either fortified or overcome through education and life experiences. My own experience tells me that one can't generalize with kids (or human beings as such) because each one is a mix. I find it more exciting and also 'rewarding' to treat everybody as an individual, even when in a group.

Violence, I think, often is a shortcoming on the level of dealing with the own emotions and/or the self-image - when directed against single persons... in the mass or in wars, other 'ingredients' get added.

And one should never underestimate the level of frustration which wants a vent - the higher the frustration, the more destructive/violent can be the vent. That's why I find expectations more dangerous than hope.

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Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 10 days ago
#22

Mother of 7 girls hires duo in bid to kill husband, held

Who is the real criminal and the victim in this case??? The husband or the wife?

This incident reflects how deeply rooted social norms and gender expectations can destroy families and human relationships. The tragedy is not only about one crime, but also about the long-standing societal belief that a male child is more valuable than a girl child.

In many traditional societies, women are unfairly blamed for not giving birth to a son, even though biologically the sex of the child is determined by the father’s chromosomes. Yet, cultural pressure, inheritance traditions, family pride, and old beliefs continue to place emotional torture on women. A mother who gives birth only to daughters is often made to feel “incomplete,” “unlucky,” or “failed,” which is both scientifically wrong and morally cruel.

The phrase “seven girls” itself reveals another social issue, the obsession with continuing childbirth until a male heir is born. Such pressure affects not only the mother’s mental health but also the emotional well-being of the daughters, who may grow up feeling unwanted or less valued.smiley19

Harassment within marriage, especially constant humiliation, emotional abuse, threats, or violence related to childbirth, can push people into desperation and psychological breakdown. While murder can never be justified, understanding the social environment behind such crimes is important. Extreme oppression, isolation, and years of emotional suffering can sometimes lead individuals toward tragic and unlawful decisions.

This case also exposes:

Patriarchal thinking that measures a woman’s worth through producing a son.

Gender discrimination against girls from birth itself.

Lack of emotional and legal support for abused women.

Social silence around domestic humiliation and reproductive pressure.

Failure to educate society about scientific facts regarding childbirth.

Most importantly, the seven daughters in this story are also victims. They grow up witnessing conflict, rejection, violence, and the collapse of their family structure because society taught their parents that daughters were somehow “not enough.”

A healthy society must reject the idea that sons carry greater value than daughters. True progress begins when children are respected equally, irrespective of gender, and when marriage is built on dignity rather than dominance, expectation, or lineage pressure.

What is your opinion regarding this Crime & Punishment ??

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Posted: 10 days ago
#23

Originally posted by: Clochette

Fortunately, there are also men who could evolve through their education and who can give their set of good values to the next generation.

I think that there are both - certain genes which gets either fortified or overcome through education and life experiences. My own experience tells me that one can't generalize with kids (or human beings as such) because each one is a mix. I find it more exciting and also 'rewarding' to treat everybody as an individual, even when in a group.

Violence, I think, often is a shortcoming on the level of dealing with the own emotions and/or the self-image - when directed against single persons... in the mass or in wars, other 'ingredients' get added.

And one should never underestimate the level of frustration which wants a vent - the higher the frustration, the more destructive/violent can be the vent. That's why I find expectations more dangerous than hope.

Bold, blue-- very true, the result is such that even normal people will be prone to being carried away with emotions and indulge in cruel deeds. That tendency is harmful to society as a whole.
Clochette thumbnail
Posted: 10 days ago
#24

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

... women are unfairly blamed for not giving birth to a son, even though biologically the sex of the child is determined by the father’s chromosomes.

This case also exposes:

Patriarchal thinking that measures a woman’s worth through producing a son.

Gender discrimination against girls from birth itself.

Lack of emotional and legal support for abused women.

Social silence around domestic humiliation and reproductive pressure.

Failure to educate society about scientific facts regarding childbirth.

Most importantly, the seven daughters in this story are also victims. They grow up witnessing conflict, rejection, violence, and the collapse of their family structure because society taught their parents that daughters were somehow “not enough.”

A healthy society must reject the idea that sons carry greater value than daughters. True progress begins when children are respected equally, irrespective of gender, and when marriage is built on dignity rather than dominance, expectation, or lineage pressure.

What is your opinion regarding this Crime & Punishment ??

Concentrating on the underlined part:

The unfair blaming "unfairly" isn't done towards women only... actually, it's the other way round - it is the unfair blame towards men that gives the counter reaction(s). Men who don't father a boy are mocked (mostly by the own gender) about their sperm (after from young age the size of the p*n*s is a point of stupid competitions)... no man likes to feel like a loser when others make him feel like that. It's again a question of wide-spread knowledge/lies/prejudices... there is no other help than relentless enlightment - for all (from the young age on). Knowledge helps to get a more sane self-image on this field as everything related to sexuality can result in power-plays (which also is much needed to get openly discussed).

However, a patriarchal society rarely is open to discussion as men far too often inherently feel inferior to women which gets compensated through big-man-manners, aggressivity and violence. Power-plays aren't something one can avoid but one can learn how to handle the own emotions - and value the strength of the other gender.

As for the crime that results out of situations like the one told, justice has to handle it - the human one and the other one. One can only hope to never come into a situation where one doesn't see another possibility anymore than killing... another one, other ones or oneself.

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Posted: 10 days ago
#25

It is our collective responsibility and we must follow and teach our kids that there is no difference between boys and girls. Everybody should be respected and treated equally. We should even talk to kids about the abuse, take their opinions and teach them the importance of consent. Encourage them to speak up if they face any abuse and violence.

I know there are still some households where boys are treated like princes and girls like maids. Educate kids at school and make stricter laws against violence. Advertise them extensively and make the support easily accessible to victims.

Very important topic Madhu! Keep up the good work.smiley31

Cheers..

Savera84 thumbnail
Posted: 10 days ago
#26

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Here is the video. Produced, directed and acted by Koely Appy (CM India Forums)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOOog-T46iU

Very well done Koeli!smiley32 Beautiful work.smiley31

Thanks for sharing it.

Cheers..

SoniRita thumbnail
Posted: 10 days ago
#27

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Mother of 7 girls hires duo in bid to kill husband, held

Who is the real criminal and the victim in this case??? The husband or the wife?

This incident reflects how deeply rooted social norms and gender expectations can destroy families and human relationships. The tragedy is not only about one crime, but also about the long-standing societal belief that a male child is more valuable than a girl child.

In many traditional societies, women are unfairly blamed for not giving birth to a son, even though biologically the sex of the child is determined by the father’s chromosomes. Yet, cultural pressure, inheritance traditions, family pride, and old beliefs continue to place emotional torture on women. A mother who gives birth only to daughters is often made to feel “incomplete,” “unlucky,” or “failed,” which is both scientifically wrong and morally cruel.

The phrase “seven girls” itself reveals another social issue, the obsession with continuing childbirth until a male heir is born. Such pressure affects not only the mother’s mental health but also the emotional well-being of the daughters, who may grow up feeling unwanted or less valued.smiley19

Harassment within marriage, especially constant humiliation, emotional abuse, threats, or violence related to childbirth, can push people into desperation and psychological breakdown. While murder can never be justified, understanding the social environment behind such crimes is important. Extreme oppression, isolation, and years of emotional suffering can sometimes lead individuals toward tragic and unlawful decisions.

This case also exposes:

Patriarchal thinking that measures a woman’s worth through producing a son.

Gender discrimination against girls from birth itself.

Lack of emotional and legal support for abused women.

Social silence around domestic humiliation and reproductive pressure.

Failure to educate society about scientific facts regarding childbirth.

Most importantly, the seven daughters in this story are also victims. They grow up witnessing conflict, rejection, violence, and the collapse of their family structure because society taught their parents that daughters were somehow “not enough.”

A healthy society must reject the idea that sons carry greater value than daughters. True progress begins when children are respected equally, irrespective of gender, and when marriage is built on dignity rather than dominance, expectation, or lineage pressure.

What is your opinion regarding this Crime & Punishment ??

Obviously both in fault but more men’s mentality and society’s pressure n mentality

But who is suffering most? The girls (daughters)

Clochette thumbnail
Posted: 8 days ago
#28

Unfortunately, already 2 days of silence...

I really tried to ponder how one could bring change - in a more value-oriented behaviour in human being:

Triggered by the violence part, I pose myself (and now to you) the question:

How to implement moral integrity that respects the human rights?

Edited by Clochette - 8 days ago
Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 8 days ago
#29

Originally posted by: Clochette

Unfortunately, already 2 days of silence...

I really tried to ponder how one could bring change - in a more value-oriented behaviour in human being:

Triggered by the violence part, I pose myself (and now to you) the question:

How to implement moral integrity that respects the human rights?

Protecting and making women brave enough to fight and survive from all sorts of violence and building a society with moral integrity and respect for human rights requires effort at many levels.....family, education, law, community, media, and governance. It is not only about “protecting” women from danger, but also about creating a culture where women are respected as equal human beings with dignity, freedom, and safety; they are not easy prey, they are the givers and protectors of life.

Boys and girls must be taught equality, empathy, and mutual respect from an early age. Families and schools should openly teach the meaning of consent, boundaries, and healthy relationships. Children should learn that strength is not domination, and care is not weakness.

Moral integrity is not fear of punishment; it is understanding what is right even when nobody is watching!! Schools should include ethics, compassion, responsibility, and civic values in education. Society should celebrate kindness, honesty, and accountability instead of aggression and toxic behavior??!!

Religious and cultural teachings should focus on humanity and dignity rather than control over women smiley3

Crimes against women must be investigated quickly and fairly. Survivors should be protected from humiliation and victim-blaming??!! Legal systems should ensure equal justice regardless of social status, wealth, caste, religion, or political influence.

Many violations against women come from deep-rooted beliefs, such as a preference for male children, controlling women’s choices, treating women as “family honor” (horrible socital norm followed for centuries, unquestioned??!!) and blaming victims instead of offenders, even in courts.

Protecting women is not only a “women’s issue.” It reflects the moral health of an entire society. A truly civilised society is one where women can live without fear, speak without hesitation, and dream without limitations.

Clochette thumbnail
Posted: 8 days ago
#30

Absolutely!

The problem: how to implement moral integrity and civic responsibility.

My utopian mind gives me answers - like mandatory but test-free courses done with the help of people with grassroot-knowledge who know the turf - where either things that happen in daily life or in movies become a subject of discussion and questioning (when interested, I could give examples how I imagine such a course).

That would, though, also need the backing from the government (the ministery of education)... however, what when a government has other interests? Maybe, long before elections, people should demand an official contract of each party which wants to get elected that such courses get created immediately - funded of course by the respective regional government - because they also want moral integrity and civic responsibility.

I think that kids are the best to start with... they often have a kind of 'detector' for lies and hypocrisy... and moral integrity requests honesty, among others.

As in a democracy, the human rights are part of the constitution, I think that it is the most important part to educate people how to value them in life - in every way of life. The more the respect for the constitution/the human rights get lost, the more moral values will get lost, too, and the more also the democracy 'goes backwards' and the country becomes an autocratically ruled one.

It should be a win-win situation between the people and the government... the more positive things happen in a country relative to human interactions, the more this country gets a positive reputation globally (which will have again a positive effect on the economy... which then also has a positive effect on the financial life of people).

Well, as I wrote in the beginning: Utopia... or not... could t h a t be faisable?

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