What is true love? - Page 3

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I don't really watch the show, but here are my 2 cents.

First of all, there is something called demisexual. It is a sexuality where a person doesn't feel physical attraction until and unless they have developed an emotional bond. And not everyone is demisexual.

Did Anuj know that Anupama is his eternal love from the first day itself? No right. He realised that only after he explored and discovered his feelings. Why should he stop himself when he isn't committed?

Sex and love are two separate things, while they do overlap, the extent of overlapping differs from person to person. For some they overlap completely, for others it doesn't.

It is true that men and women have different standards and it's not fair. But to bring them at par we should increase the standards not lower them. Virginity is a regressive concept, instead of applying it to a man to make things equal, we need to abolish it for women.

Every one has the right to explore their interests in various things including their sexuality. Bottom line is You can't cheat on someone whom you have not committed to.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I did not mean that anuj should sulk all life

But when love someone as deeply as anuj loved anupama is he not betraying all those other women he slept or had fling with

Yes in usa people go to prom in high school go on dates and than marry

even its ok with losing virginity outside wedding as per society

But does that mean all 100% girls in usa only want physical relationship not faithfulness from boys they date not really

Most if not all goon dates or have boy friends with intention to marry only not casual flings like anuj did

Imagine the trauma those women had when anuj had fling for few weeks or days and just walked off saying i am not fine with you because i cannot forget a married woman in india who does not even know me (or did he even say anything reveal about anupama to all those woman, they have right to know)

Anuj himself told devika and even anupama i dated few i had fling with few i slept with few but could not forget anupama and regualrly aked devika about her on calls

So its like emotionally you are in relationship with anupama only no but going around dating having flings with other woman

USA is not india women there are financially very independent and many households are run by single woman

We cannot assume all women were after anuj wealth

anuj wealth may look more for an indian in USA even labourer gets 30 lakh or 50 lakhs salary per annum

So women running after money or marrying for money of boy friend or hubby is very rare

Women there will not allow husband to treat them badly or will refuse sex unlike india where woman compels

In such a place to assume all anuj girl friends were after money is very wrong

Indeed its anupama whose taken max advvantage of anuj kapadia wealth and business so far and vanraj and shahs too and benefited from him not any relative or girl friends or even sister

Whether its india usa or africa most woman want a man or hubby for emotional support and safety from society not for money etc so i guess his past flings or gfs wanted something similar to be free from lonliness as all stay alone there even before marriage and need emotional support. All this money and ex will come last as most are independent and can earn in crores themselves. And govt there provides so many facility to women that no other country can dream off. So to assume all those woman wanted causal flings is not right.

If we say woman in asia and africa poorer country are after anuj money we can understand as they hv no source of income but in usa its unbelivable woman will run after money.

Indeed woman there are highly independent and even do not take money from father or hubby or son and start working part time at age 13 or 14 in high school and fund their own education and rent etc such woman will run after anuj money is mostly daty dreaming. 80% will be in relation for lonliness and emotional support as depression is high in usa than any money.

We can't assume this or we can't assume that but u are assuming a lot of things. Women must have gone through trauma ...now this is also assumption only right. I just showed u that there are two sides to a coin. Ur post portrays as if Anuj betrayed all women he cheated them bla bla bla and most importantly breakup can be mutual also. I am not anuj fan just speaking rationaly.

Did u see this character portrayed Sara Khan from love aj kal ? Firstly I disliked that movie a lot and dint like Sara s character nor acting but the character portrayed by Sara Khan represents a section of women. Sara represented women who want have flings and one night stands again she wasn't looking for relationship. She wanted successful career and to romance and fun. My point again don't generalise that women want commitment only.

See I m not any side nor I m promoting any culture. My point is clear that we cannot character Assassinate anyone based on assumptions.

Originally posted by: hareesh_fan

do you wanna say that all the women with whom Anuj made a relationship were behind his money? matlab not 1-2, but all the women?

yes, I agree that Anuj had right to move on after Anupama got married, but then why people say that he is majhnu, or why does he say that he is Meera? and even if one single women was serious in their relationship then it is a betrayal from Anuj's side to that women.

and if we talk about women in relationship, then it is mostly true that women (most of the women) are committed in a relationship, I mean at least if they think of entering into a physical relationship then they expect something and then only do such things. At least this is the case in Asian countries and I guess it would be true in the western countries as well (I guess means that I am not sure about the culture in the west, so I don't know whether it is common there or not) but still I guess even if prom dates are common there still, how we can say that no one was serious, I am not denying that everyone would not have been serious, but still, at least koi toh hogi naa.

and if we look from an Indian women's POV then yes, even Anuj is not a true lover.

PS I don't watch this show, but I don't think show dekhna zaroori hai ye bolne keliye.

and I have watch the show till June and yes, I read updates here for time pass but I hardly take part in any of the discussions (kyunki time pass karna hota hai naa) so I think I know mota mota about the current track.

and one more thing, you yourself said that Women who are extremely serious will not sleep without getting commitment, it means even if one women was serious about Anuj and her relationship, got commitment from Anuj's side then only she entered into a relationship with her (physical relationship)

if we talk about the culture then according to Indian culture it is wrong, if a man sleeps with a women or women sleeps with a man before marriage then it is not considered good.

and the main question is not about the wrong or right, but the point is that whether Anuj is so great jaisa log bolte hain

answer is no, yes he is a good human, yes he loves Anupama, but he is not that great as said by most of the fans.

Sorry for such a long comment and sorry if I have hurt someone's feelings. My intention was not to disrespect anyone's culture (actually I have not even disrespected, but still if someone felt so)

PS:: even if I will get 110 percent committment from the other side then also I will not enter into such a relationship before marriage, so what, kya pata koi relationship me enter kar gaya hoga, but how can we say ki no girl was serious. I have edited this post 4-5 times to check ki maine kuch galat toh nahi bola, so please maaf karna agar kuch galat bola ho toh

It's not about you nor me 😊 but should we assume woman are like us only. We also can't assume all women want to have flings. We also can't all assume all women want commitment. Similarly we can't assume Anuj cheated all women. We cant assume Anuj was cheater . We can't assume he dumped women. We can't assume he made fake promises and gave commitment to woman and then broke those promises. Aren't these all assumptions?

Based on an assumption we say Anuj is just like toshu and vanraj is completely wrong.

No u haven't said anything wrong to me and I m not anuj fan.

Originally posted by: Shri_12

I don't really watch the show, but here are my 2 cents.

First of all, there is something called demisexual. It is a sexuality where a person doesn't feel physical attraction until and unless they have developed an emotional bond. And not everyone is demisexual.

Did Anuj know that Anupama is his eternal love from the first day itself? No right. He realised that only after he explored and discovered his feelings. Why should he stop himself when he isn't committed?

Sex and love are two separate things, while they do overlap, the extent of overlapping differs from person to person. For some they overlap completely, for others it doesn't.

It is true that men and women have different standards and it's not fair. But to bring them at par we should increase the standards not lower them. Virginity is a regressive concept, instead of applying it to a man to make things equal, we need to abolish it for women.

Every one has the right to explore their interests in various things including their sexuality. Bottom line is You can't cheat on someone whom you have not committed to.

Except virginity is regressive concept rest everything agreed

I don't understand why are one night stands and sex being made such a big deal?

Just because you slept with multiple women when you are not even in a committed relationship and have no hope of being in one, then what is wrong in it?

People are different,with different outlooks in life.

If you are someone who cannot sleep with the other person unless you are in a serious commitment doesn't mean all are like that.

In India also,many women are there who look for only casual flings,I have had friends also, or even if you go to a club,you will find many girls who would be okay with one-night stands,it's just that it's not out much open here as compared to western countries.

Just because something doesn't happen in our close knit circle,doesn't mean all have the same perception or similar kind of outlook towards relationships.

Thats Anuj breaking hearts of women, not breaking can just be assumed since we don't know the entire situation. But that doesn't mean his love for Anu was not real.

And no one puts his sexual encounters on a pedestal, people loved Anuj because he only ever loved Anu even after all these years, even after encountering many different women. His love for Anu was beyond physicalities,that's why its considered pure. His love was devoid of any expectations, any malice, any lust for her.

And as for comparing his love with Meera,just like someone told in earlier posts,even in real life many a time people pass random comments, of someone's relationship being like Shiv and Parvati, Ram and Sita, or Radha and Krishna, or when someone is angry, they are Kali's roop, so it's just metaphorically, obviously in reality no one can have a divine love such as Radha and Krishna, atleast not as humans.

I don't really find it offensive...also most of these God and Goddesses stories are written with the intention to teach value to humans, so I don't find anything disrespectful in it.

Originally posted by: Shiner

Except virginity is regressive concept rest everything agreed

Why do you think virginity is not regressive?

Originally posted by: Shiner

We can't assume this or we can't assume that but u are assuming a lot of things. Women must have gone through trauma ...now this is also assumption only right. I just showed u that there are two sides to a coin. Ur post portrays as if Anuj betrayed all women he cheated them bla bla bla and most importantly breakup can be mutual also. I am not anuj fan just speaking rationaly.

Did u see this character portrayed Sara Khan from love aj kal ? Firstly I disliked that movie a lot and dint like Sara s character nor acting but the character portrayed by Sara Khan represents a section of women. Sara represented women who want have flings and one night stands again she wasn't looking for relationship. She wanted successful career and to romance and fun. My point again don't generalise that women want commitment only.

Most women whether USA or india will not be like sara in movie very less percentage will do that as women are emotional cannot change too many partners like men easily without trauma or guilt etc

See I m not any side nor I m promoting any culture. My point is clear that we cannot character Assassinate anyone based on assumptions.

I was replying to below statements by someone on post (bold part)

all i am saying is because america culture its not taboo to have sex before marraige we cannot assume all those women were not serious about relationship with anuj kapadia. Some break ups may be mutual but not all his flings and ONS may be mutual. Lets not assume 100% women in USA wanted mutual break up or ONS from anuj kapadia thats all. And did he tell them that he is having casual fling not serious relationship did all those women know than its ok. But if he never told them about it than its cheating only because you did not give choice to woman to back out.How can we assume 100% of those women were after anuj money and were ok with casual fliings or ONS. Did anuj tell them before starting fling or ONS? That is important. Do you feel all those woman will go and sleep or have fling with anuj kapadia if he told them truth is the question?

Women who are extremely serious will not sleep without getting commitment. There is something called cultural difference here. Remember there was a show called big brother in which contestant was bragging about loosing virginity at the age of 16 and laughing at Shilpa Shetty calling her backward. Certain notions of losing virginity before or after marriage is a choice and has lot more to do with social conditioning and culture the place ur living and very less to do with ur character. Most of the times people tend to judge other people either call them backward or sl*t sham them but it's nothing but cultural effect.

How do u know that he cheated ? How do u know those women were serious ? How do you they were not behind his money ? Anuj dating one and sleeping with another one. This post is full of assumptions. Totally assumptions and has nothing to do with reality.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I was replying to below statements by someone on post (bold part)

all i am saying is because america culture its not taboo to have sex before marraige we cannot assume all those women were not serious about relationship with anuj kapadia. Some break ups may be mutual but not all his flings and ONS may be mutual. Lets not assume 100% women in USA wanted mutual break up or ONS from anuj kapadia thats all. And did he tell them that he is having casual fling not serious relationship did all those women know than its ok. But if he never told them about it than its cheating only because you did not give choice to woman to back out.How can we assume 100% of those women were after anuj money and were ok with casual fliings or ONS. Did anuj tell them before starting fling or ONS? That is important. Do you feel all those woman will go and sleep or have fling with anuj kapadia if he told them truth is the question?

Women who are extremely serious will not sleep without getting commitment. There is something called cultural difference here. Remember there was a show called big brother in which contestant was bragging about loosing virginity at the age of 16 and laughing at Shilpa Shetty calling her backward. Certain notions of losing virginity before or after marriage is a choice and has lot more to do with social conditioning and culture the place ur living and very less to do with ur character. Most of the times people tend to judge other people either call them backward or sl*t sham them but it's nothing but cultural effect.

How do u know that he cheated ? How do u know those women were serious ? How do you they were not behind his money ? Anuj dating one and sleeping with another one. This post is full of assumptions. Totally assumptions and has nothing to do with reality.

Nothing has been shown like back story or flashback until then it's only theories only. Nobody can prove that he is cheater. If at all a character comes up accusing Anuj then we can discuss.

This is more like khayali pulao right now anuj cheat Kiya hoga ..... Nway I m done with topic.

Originally posted by: Shri_12

Why do you think virginity is not regressive?

As per Spirituality it's the most sacred divine form of energy. We are souls in human form and we all come with baggage be it wounds trauma . For example A goes out with random people B C D .... B has depression then A is bound to feel depressed .... It's like u already have ur own baggage instead of healing it ...what u did ? Not just one but so many people so few minutes of pleasure what ur doing to urself on mind body soul level ? Honestly I don't think i m capable of explaining it properly so I wanted to post some link related to the topic but didn't find. It's a vast topic.