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Posted: 6 years ago
#31
Nice post. Very well explained especially kunal falling for nandini. Honestly I never understood why kunal fell for nandini. This makes sense. This show the topics it's interesting for discussions. This kind of posts are much needed.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: QueenofGreen


Thank you!❤️

Yes, you're absolutely correct in that K&N are on a high, and when it wears off, they'll be left floundering in the wake. Once the practical considerations of reality strikes, they'll realise just how detrimental and devastating their choices were. You're right - neither of them has been shown to do any work since their affair. They've simply been basking in the afterglow of their love, which only proves just how irresponsible and insensible they've become in the pursuit of a forbidden passion.

I'm not in a psychiatric field, though I'm flattered that you would think so. I'm a lawyer, but I make it my business to try to understand the motives for the ways in which people behave. I'm an MBTI enthusiast. I think that once you understand what drives an individual, you also understand where their strengths and weaknesses lie. Such knowledge is undeniably powerful, is it not?

I assume that you must be in the psychiatric field. If so, I would love to hear a more experienced and informed insight on the characters.

On the issue of transference, my knowledge is very limited, so please correct me if I'm wrong. In my opinion, Nandini is already substituting her unfulfilled romantic aspirations through her relationship with Kunal, hence her lack of remorse, as she feels entitled to his attention and adulation. Ideally, if the writers were taking a more informed and well-researched route, I can foresee a point, where she is forced to address the trauma that she sustained and the convenient feelings that she developed for Kunal in its aftermath.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this.



You are welcome 😊

Yes I am a Psychiatrist but I was also a Victim's Advisor for the court whilst I was at College. I am not 100% that Kunal's motives are purely white knight complex related, he is lying to his wife and on the other hand tells Nandini that his love is pure and god destined. These two things are inherently contradictory. If a love is that pure and god destined rarely a sane man will hide it - this guy is apparently a doctor albeit one who never works.

I find Kunal to be an opportunistic individual - he never tried to control his emotions. From the time he realised that he cared for Nandini his efforts have been half-hearted. Perhaps that is the director's fault, I do not know but from a layman perspective his actions do not correlate with his words. On the on hand he pursued Nandini even to the point of not letting her go, admitted that even though it is wrong he loves her beyond measure. On the other hand he hides from his wife, feels a bit guilty after having physical relations and then stops Nandini and again reiterates that whatever it is, it is theirs. These are extremely mixed signals and sadly Nandini is not questioning him.

Regarding Nandini, there are mitigating circumstances. She has had no counselling, this does not absolve her of her part in this but I do find her to be easily susceptible to Kunal and his words. If only she questions him and asks regarding their future plans, it will make sense at least from audience perspective but right now all we have is to watch two love birds coochie cooing and hiding.

Exactly, you are on point regarding Nandini's feels. It appears to me that she has built a little cocoon for herself and she is happily living in that bubble but I am sure when that bubble will burst, it would be fascinating to watch what she will do?

Thank you again for a wonderful conversation, I love to hear different views.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SummerRain7


Did you guys notice that little dance step he did by showing his palms 🤣 Looked like a different version of that zinagaat step. Rajdeep and Mauli gives me Tom & Jerry vibes. How effortlessy she slaps that big hulk of a man! Jab bhi milti hai pehle ek chaanta marti hai, phir baat karti hai 😆 If only, he wasn't such a bloody psycho!


Coming to Kunal, Pamk06 - I think makers are really in a fix about what to do with Kunal. They wanted to tell us a story of how even good people can sometimes end up cheating on their partners. But the truth is that they did not have a good base for the story, they thought destiny and Baba will work with the audience. It bombed and now like you said, its the makers playing safe by saying, "hum ne kahan kuch bola" 😃
As of now they only want to show he is destiny ka maara, not really thinking about what he is doing.

What I feel is that, we may get to hear him say anything only when Mauli confronts him after getting completely convinced of his affair. But then again , if the makers are adamant about sticking to the fated couple story line, even if Mauli were to ask him "Kya kami reh gayi thi humare rishte mein" he may just say, "Kuch sawalon ke jawaab nahin hote. Yeh shayad likha hua tha" 🤢😃

But I really really hope, they never show anything like that


Yes, that was what got my attention (jhang, jhang, jhang). I know, every time they meet, he gets one chaanta and when they clash, its almost like sparks fly. If she would have been in Nandini place, Rajdeep would have been the one filing for the abuse case because of her chaantas.😆😆 I, so wish, he wasnt such an evil man, theirs would be a fun pair.

Coming to Kunal, I think they want to show him as a good guy who is fallen in love, but I guess, they are not able to get it on screen plus there are so many editing glitches, that its really getting difficult to relate to his expressions/reactions and then they keep changing their mind about his character.

His reaction to confrontation will definitely be based on his emotional state. If he is high on emotion, he might very well shout out that "He loves Nandini" but if he is calm and guilty, he will just say "Sorry, I did not mean to do it" Hopefully, she will not convince herself that it was not his fault, its baba's fault.😆 🤣.

I, just wish for one meaningful conversation between Kunal and Nandini will give us all her answers, but for that we will need another Mahasangam😆

Edited by pamk06 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: QueenofGreen


All the actors are superb. No complaints there at all.


The anger is directed at the writers. I wish the writers would have shown us the purity of the love between Kunal and Nandini. Let us see their angst. Show us their denial and self-restraint. Show us that these characters are angry at themselves for feeling this way. Show us that they are punishing themselves by staying away from each other.

I wish they did not cheapen the relationship by making it physical. I wish they would have shown these characters as being mature, and loving each other enough to simply exist in a world where they can love someone, but not have to be with them.

I wish that after all this trying and denying, they would be honest and plead for forgiveness from Mauli. That they would never be together, unless and until Mauli, being as wonderful and generous as she is, would bring them together.

They can't do it because it makes no sense. First, there is no purity of love in an extramarital affair. I would object even if they are supposedly in an emotional affair and suffer in silence. The reason that an extramarital affair is not pure is because the cheaters are LYING. They are lying about their feelings. This robs the person who is being cheated on of any real chance of happiness. Who wants to be with anyone who loves someone else and is practicing some great sacrifice by being with them. That is not only dishonest but very self-centered. Kunal is a cheater who wants it both ways, wife and mistress. Sure the sex is beyond disgusting but it's not like the cheating, the emotional cheating that preceeded it is ok. Who wants their husband pining in private.
If their love was really pure, the moment he felt he no longer loved his wife and wanted to be with his mistress, he should have told her. It would have FREED her to get on with her life. To find the man who loves her and won't cheat. It is the LYING that makes it incapable of being pure, not just the sex.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#35
I love everything you said in your post. And this whole thread is amazing. I'm just glad that there are some people who are treating Nandani as a three dimensional character whose thoughts and behaviors are driven by her experiences. You can't just look at the surface level and say that she's betraying Mauli's trust, which obviously is right but that is just one part of her character. Like you and a lot of people on this thread have mentioned, there is a lot for writers to delve into with a character like Nandani in a premise like EMA. If you guys have noticed, Nandani is always playing with her hands whenever something "bad" happens around her. It's subtle but its a part of her anxiety. I am honestly so glad her mental health is starting to get explored, although very slowly. This whole EMA is just a manifestation of her trauma and it needs to be talked about with a therapist. She craves romantic love and she is getting that from Kunal so she's clinging on to it with all her power. Thank you for humanizing Nandani and seeing her as a person with her own set of flaws instead of berating her.
I also agree about the whole sexual nature of Kunal and Nandani's relationship. It leads us to think that they can't keep their hands off each other, which in the beginning is part of new relationships, however, Indian TV shows do not have that scope and EMA is not the place to start in my opinion. I like the concept of them just being happy about existing near each other. That's so wholesome!!!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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You really summed up every character's analysis so very well topic maker . Like one of the members mentioned here I am glad you see Nandini as human with feelings too. Yes at surface level her actions are very wrong but I feel a lot of what she is and what she does is because of her abusive past and the trauma of it. Many times I have seen her and felt like she needs counselling and medical help more than any other help. I feel like she is doing a lot of things on rebound while trying to come out of her relationship with Rajdeep. I guess the sentiments against EMA are so strong and overpowering that I feel people don't want to think from her side or try to understand where she is coming from . Yes what she is doing is wrong but then again she isnt like the usual woman or female lead you see in shows.. She has suffered from enormous physical and mental abuse and seems visibly shaken and aloof many times. Tears come to her a lot which is one of the side effects of depression too. While we do know EMA is wrong and needs to be condemned we usually aren't made aware of what circumstances lead to these situations. In Nandini's case I feel the writer has actually done justice initially in showing her dark past and experiences with marital rape and abuse but off late the attention is more on the Kunan angle than her mental state or her rehabilitation. I do wish at some point the CVs deal with her mental condition too with counselling and therapy provided to her which I feel is a must for any woman coming out of such relationships.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

I love everything you said in your post. And this whole thread is amazing. I'm just glad that there are some people who are treating Nandani as a three dimensional character whose thoughts and behaviors are driven by her experiences. You can't just look at the surface level and say that she's betraying Mauli's trust, which obviously is right but that is just one part of her character. Like you and a lot of people on this thread have mentioned, there is a lot for writers to delve into with a character like Nandani in a premise like EMA. If you guys have noticed, Nandani is always playing with her hands whenever something "bad" happens around her. It's subtle but its a part of her anxiety. I am honestly so glad her mental health is starting to get explored, although very slowly. This whole EMA is just a manifestation of her trauma and it needs to be talked about with a therapist. She craves romantic love and she is getting that from Kunal so she's clinging on to it with all her power. Thank you for humanizing Nandani and seeing her as a person with her own set of flaws instead of berating her.

I also agree about the whole sexual nature of Kunal and Nandani's relationship. It leads us to think that they can't keep their hands off each other, which in the beginning is part of new relationships, however, Indian TV shows do not have that scope and EMA is not the place to start in my opinion. I like the concept of them just being happy about existing near each other. That's so wholesome!!!

This post deserves to be a separate post on its own in this forum. It is so well written and explained. I wish people could see more than just right and wrong- moral and immoral. There is so much more to discuss ,so much more to analyse, but we are just stuck in the moral vs immoral debate which doesn't allow any insightful discussions into he character traits of the three leads.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: chulbuliladki

This post deserves to be a separate post on its own in this forum. It is so well written and explained. I wish people could see more than just right and wrong- moral and immoral. There is so much more to discuss ,so much more to analyse, but we are just stuck in the moral vs immoral debate which doesn't allow any insightful discussions into he character traits of the three leads.

yeah exactly. Just because Nandani is having an affair with Kunal doesn't make the worst person in the world. And I side eye a lot of comments on this forum where people are saying that she doesn't deserve any empathy, especially because she's a woman who was in a seriously abusive relationship, because of her mistakes. Mauli is rarely ever analyzed with her overbearing attitude and Kunal is not nearly shown as the culprit that he is.

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