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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



yea, every experience is different but I remember that lady's post because she was such a cheerful person and in such sharp contrast to expectation and others experience. part of that was she had accepted herself and her past, living very contentedly and was not afraid of the future.

one of my cousin is a psychiatrist and she has lots of patients who approach her when they are thinking of a second marriage. they are afraid if the past will repeat itself and so analyzing a past relationship helps them see if they could have done things differently, what are areas they need to work on for personal growth. blaming the ex for everything does not get them anywhere.

we can agree to disagree on this but I don't see mouli as without flaws. yes, she is a good person but I also do think that there were areas in her marriage which may have needed a little tweaking. sometimes it is not about whether a need is irrelevant but if it is relevant to the other person, then the spouse needs to address it head on in order to make a marriage successful.

so I agree with you 100% that kunal has a saviour complex. the irony is that mauli herself is a vulnerable woman and has lots of insecurities. if she had let kunal in and let him do some of the heavy lifting, then he would have realized that mouli also needs saving. so was she wrong in taking on everything herself? not necessarily but she underestimated kunal's saviour complex. now is she responsible for kunal's affair? no. those were his actions. but she is responsible for her actions in her marriage because they were the two in it.

in every relationship (whether it is friend, family or even colleague), we need to pay attention to a person's emotional needs. we may think it is a simple irrelevant matter but it may not be to someone else.


Kunal is not just saviour complex ..he is a horny pig with uncontrollable sexual urges who two times with out an iota of shame if he has just saviour complex the minute he fell for nandhini he should have confezsed to mauli

No matter what mauli like wives do these horny pigs end up cheating ..so mauli is at zero fault here

Men who have ema do it secretly with guilt ...but this horny pig is cheating right before his wife not even with an iota if guilt . Now come on with these type of guys any wife even if she dies any thing to save their marriage ultimately goes to drain bcos hirny pigs ultimately end in bed of another woman when the oppurtunity comes like nandhinj hapoened who is easy to be manipulated
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@summerrain7 -- caught up on the episode and I had to chuckle at rajdeep. the actor seemed to have a ball of time wriggling his eyebrows. the way he delivered his lines really was kind of funny and his little dance on seeing kunal and nandini all drunk on baang, had to laugh...

so on your question on kunal -- the guy remains as confusing as ever. what I found strange is that one minute, he is in happy infatuated bubble with nandini and the next minute, he is giving mouli a hug and is silently aware that she seems troubled by something. but his behaviour at the celebration is having everyone's eyebrows up but I don't think people will jump immediately and draw the conclusion that it is affair.

the problem is his niceness. we don't expect nice people to do stupid and hurtful things and so give them a longer leash in some ways. whereas characters like rajdeep are troublemakers and so first sight of problem, we look at them.

am finding it strange that the train wreck is speeding up so fast...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@summerrain7 -- caught up on the episode and I had to chuckle at rajdeep. the actor seemed to have a ball of time wriggling his eyebrows. the way he delivered his lines really was kind of funny and his little dance on seeing kunal and nandini all drunk on baang, had to laugh...

so on your question on kunal -- the guy remains as confusing as ever. what I found strange is that one minute, he is in happy infatuated bubble with nandini and the next minute, he is giving mouli a hug and is silently aware that she seems troubled by something. but his behaviour at the celebration is having everyone's eyebrows up but I don't think people will jump immediately and draw the conclusion that it is affair.

the problem is his niceness. we don't expect nice people to do stupid and hurtful things and so give them a longer leash in some ways. whereas characters like rajdeep are troublemakers and so first sight of problem, we look at them.

am finding it strange that the train wreck is speeding up so fast...

I swear! Rajdeep made me laugh so hard last night. I really don't know whether the makers intentionally added that comic element to his characterization or it was all Abhinav's contribution. In those abuse scenes he does invoke disgust but otherwise he is funny as hell. I would have preferred a personality that invokes absolute terror like Viraj's character form Saubhagyvati Bhaava. Anyways, I won't complain much because this guy is making me laugh.
What baffled me the most about Kunal, other than wat you mentioned was his smiling face when Mauli was praising Nandini to the skies and saying she is sooo trustworthy blah blah. .i can't digest that scene at all! !! Even I don't think everyone will quickly jump into any conclusion including Mauli. But I feel the revealation is not far.

Also, Mauli singing Lag ja gale seemed a little symbolic if you go buy the lyrics of the song. Anyways, overall the episode had lots of W*F moments with comic relief from Rajdeep.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@summerrain7 -- yea, keeping the abuse aside, rajdeep is hilarious and I think it is just the actor. maybe he takes inspiration from other comic villains who can be super diabolical one minute and then wryly amusing in another scene...

the other eye rolling + exasperated giggle moment for me is the colour co-ordination. aiyoo!!! it is like they have to prove that kunal and nandini are destined and so have to dress them in the same colour. please!

also, was reminded of another literature classic where the cheater fella turns out to be mr. nice guy but utter coward. so have you read/heard of the book "scarlet letter" by nathaniel hawthorne? maybe kunal or nandini is built on such kind of characterization.

Edited by mango_pudding1 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@summerrain7 -- yea, keeping the abuse aside, rajdeep is hilarious and I think it is just the actor. maybe he takes inspiration from other comic villains who can be super diabolical one minute and then wryly amusing in another scene...

the other eye rolling + exasperated giggle moment for me is the colour co-ordination. aiyoo!!! it is like they have to prove that kunal and nandini are destined and so have to dress them in the same colour. please!

also, was reminded of another literature classic where the cheater fella turns out to be mr. nice guy but utter coward. so have you read/heard of the book "scarlet letter" by nathaniel hawthorne? maybe kunal or nandini is built on such kind of characterization.

Bold - Don't get me started on the color co-ordination.😆 And what about Nandini-Mauli's same design dresses? I have seen some parents dress up their twin kids likes that, same design and style, color different. And the special color coordination only for Kunal-Nandini😃 It feels like the director is screaming to us "Kya Mauli Mauli karte rehte ho tum log. Indono ke outfits dekho ..they are the IT couple!!"
And, no I haven't read the book that your have referenced above. So can't really comment on it. I don't really have a problem with Kunal being a nice guy. I have seen people who are otherwise nice, cheating on their spouses. So that's not really hard to digest. But I need to know what going on in Kunal's mind and how is he so comfortably making eyes at Nandini, in Mauli's presence. At this moment, I will take anything from him. Even a monologue saying, "he is confused as f*** " would do. Or if he has made up his mind to keep this under wraps because he is too cowardly to face the consequences of it, even that would do. Does that make him a flawed human? Yes, it does, but I will accept it. Will I curse him? yes I will, but I know most people are like that in real life. But here it feels like the makers are deliberately keeping his thoughts hidden and leaving it to audience interpretation.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Zoya is Mahaan and Mauli is Deviji in Aditya and Rajdeep's words. Its like someone pushes you, do not blame them but ask yourself why did he push you. 😆. On a serious note, we should wait for the episode because precaps are generally misleading.

I do agree that Kunal and Nandini are very wrong because you can develop feelings but that does not give you the right to play with someone else's feelings which they are basically currently doing. On the other hand, I also agree with @mango_pudding1, that even though Mauli is not responsible for their actions, sometimes its necessary to evaluate your relationships,not only marriage. Mauli is insecure and has her own vulnerabilities when its comes to relationships. If they are not address on time, they do start taking a toll on a relationship or have an unknown impact. Also, we become so involve in our daily routine that we fail to realize that with time the needs of a relationship changes. Sometimes what we feel is needed is not exactly what the other person wants and what applies for one relationship does not necessarily apply for the other. Communication is the key along with adjusting, evaluating, compromising to keep any relationship healthy and successful.
Its like Sridevi said in English-Vinglish, " Sometimes one partner might feel that he is not equal and sometimes the other, and they need to help each other out to maintain the balance and if that does not work, then they need to help themselves so that they start feeling equal again". This definitely does not mean you should go and have an EMA but well.


@summerain7: OMG, Rajdeep is hilarous. His dialogue delivery is awesome and the much needed comic relief in this show. I could not stop laughing. I know I would be bashed for this but I really like Mauli and Rajdeep chemistry, they are so yin and yan. One too good and one too bad. 😛

Kunal's behavior yesterday just baffled me completely. Like you said, one moment he is with Mauli and the other he is with Nandini. Its just got me thinking, that may be they are trying to show us the push and pull. Like when he is with Mauli, his guilt comes up and he is aware that he is doing wrong. Added to the fact that they were married for long time, so obviously, there is companionship/understanding which comes out naturally and he knows instinctively when she is low. But, as soon as, Nandini comes in front of him, he forgets everything and gets pulled toward her. Its a more subtle fight within him of the right vs wrong, mind vs heart. Of course because they have started silent communication/expression again, we can only guess and put our own perceptions (May be the dialogue writer is busy writing Rajdeep's dialogue😛)

Also, I have strong feeling that Mauli herself is going to explain and justify their actions of their bang induced state. She is not going give them a chance to talk in her typical "Par Janaa" style.😉

@mango_pudding: The color and the fabric co-ordination is getting to me. It like telling us again and again," same fabric means best friend and same color means destined couple. Do not get confused". We got it, just move on,😆

I did not read the book, but I do not think he is coward varna batao bala, would he have caught her hand like that in the pooja, woh bhi sabke samne.😆 . On a serious note, I do not think he is coward, I think scared would be the right word or the fear of facing the consequences of his actions and how it will impact his other relationships if this thing comes out.

PS: Where is Mauli's mom and that neighbor Sweety? Arent they suppose to catch these things?



Edited by pamk06 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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LOL.. @pamk06 -- you are not the only one that saw sparks between rajdeep and mouli in that scene. he was hilariously funny and she was getting so exasperated with him -- it was really fun to watch.

if he wasn't an abusive, manipulative jerk, it would really be a funny pairing, especially, if mouli turned a bit grey and decided to take revenge on the love birds. I would have sat back and laughed and giggled if that was the direction of the drama...

but alas, rajdeep is a real villain. but we need more comic lines from him. all these stares and silences are too much for me -- I need some masala! 😆

@summerrain7 -- we really need some dialogues from kunal to know what he is thinking. ok the actor is good looking but there's only so much we can guess from looking at his face. we are not exactly face readers here! 😉

and what drives me nuts about the colour co-ordination is the ones between mauli and nandini -- at least get some interesting print and different stitching/design if you are going to have a budget cut! 😆 at least with nandini and kunal, they are sticking with colour and not design -- well at least not yet! 😆

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

LOL.. @pamk06 -- you are not the only one that saw sparks between rajdeep and mouli in that scene. he was hilariously funny and she was getting so exasperated with him -- it was really fun to watch.

if he wasn't an abusive, manipulative jerk, it would really be a funny pairing, especially, if mouli turned a bit grey and decided to take revenge on the love birds. I would have sat back and laughed and giggled if that was the direction of the drama...

but alas, rajdeep is a real villain. but we need more comic lines from him. all these stares and silences are too much for me -- I need some masala! 😆

@summerrain7 -- we really need some dialogues from kunal to know what he is thinking. ok the actor is good looking but there's only so much we can guess from looking at his face. we are not exactly face readers here! 😉

and what drives me nuts about the colour co-ordination is the ones between mauli and nandini -- at least get some interesting print and different stitching/design if you are going to have a budget cut! 😆 at least with nandini and kunal, they are sticking with colour and not design -- well at least not yet! 😆


I wish, he was not abuser, then I would have totally rooted for them.

Gosh, how I need the dialogues, but I guess, as soon as Kunal open his mouth, he gets bashed either from Nandini or Mauli supporters. So may be the silence and expressions is a safe bet for him, because then its becomes "Maine kaha kuch bola". 😆.

@bold: Small mercies that they are not doing fabric co-ordination, or else in Ishqbaaz, it was the same fabric across the board, men or women, different style of-course. Its used to drive me nuts.






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Posted: 7 years ago
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People who explain emotions aptly write so long posts.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


I wish, he was not abuser, then I would have totally rooted for them.

Gosh, how I need the dialogues, but I guess, as soon as Kunal open his mouth, he gets bashed either from Nandini or Mauli supporters. So may be the silence and expressions is a safe bet for him, because then its becomes "Maine kaha kuch bola". 😆.

@bold: Small mercies that they are not doing fabric co-ordination, or else in Ishqbaaz, it was the same fabric across the board, men or women, different style of-course. Its used to drive me nuts.



Did you guys notice that little dance step he did by showing his palms 🤣 Looked like a different version of that zinagaat step. Rajdeep and Mauli gives me Tom & Jerry vibes. How effortlessy she slaps that big hulk of a man! Jab bhi milti hai pehle ek chaanta marti hai, phir baat karti hai 😆 If only, he wasn't such a bloody psycho!

Coming to Kunal, Pamk06 - I think makers are really in a fix about what to do with Kunal. They wanted to tell us a story of how even good people can sometimes end up cheating on their partners. But the truth is that they did not have a good base for the story, they thought destiny and Baba will work with the audience. It bombed and now like you said, its the makers playing safe by saying, "hum ne kahan kuch bola" 😃
As of now they only want to show he is destiny ka maara, not really thinking about what he is doing.

What I feel is that, we may get to hear him say anything only when Mauli confronts him after getting completely convinced of his affair. But then again , if the makers are adamant about sticking to the fated couple story line, even if Mauli were to ask him "Kya kami reh gayi thi humare rishte mein" he may just say, "Kuch sawalon ke jawaab nahin hote. Yeh shayad likha hua tha" 🤢😃

But I really really hope, they never show anything like that
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