Forced Marriage - a Sacred Bond?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am another person here who is very disappointed with the direction the plot seems to be taking. But this post is not about Swalak or RagYa or any other couple on this or any other show except indirectly. This post is my expression of deep concern about what the television industry is conveying to our public - young and old. The message being passed on through many a serial is that forced marriage - whether by parents or circumstances or manipulation, is a "Good Idea" and leads to a development of love and understanding between the leads after initial misunderstandings, dislike and nok-jhoks.

Apart from tellyworld, we have probably all heard stories and examples of the type of thing where you honour a marriage no matter what. These are designed mainly to influence and guide (or control) youngsters. A couple of examples are:

oh, so & so loved a very beautiful girl in college but his parents did not a agree he was married off to his mother choice but he was not willing to accept her, made her sleep on the floor, then eventually he was won over by her love and now they are very happy.

Or

One girl, during the wedding ceremony discovered during the wedding ceremony that her bridegroom was mentally subnormal when he started asking for sweeties.It seems his uncle was marrying him off to get his hands on the property but oh wow look at that girl, she was so good she continued with the ceremony and honoured her marriage vows.

The message is , do not question your elders they always know best in every situation also even if you are duped into a marriage ceremony with a mentally subnormal person considered highly moral to honour that marriage. Love happens as the flicking of a very convenient switch when the vows are made, the priests chant their mantras or ask qubool hai?

CVs can show what they like in shows, but in real life forced weddings very often do not have a happy ending. If you find happiness in there it is sheer luck. I can tell you that from my own experience. I cared for someone but his parents did not accept me. He was well indoctrinated by the stories quoted above and said his duty lay in giving his parents happiness. The result was just three unhappy damaged lives and one very dysfunctional relationship.

On the more serious side I just read a very disturbing article by a female Asian journalist in Britain who reported the pressures faced by mostly Asian and Arab youngsters being forced into marriage. One young man was actually not interested in women, was forced to marry and consummate - with the result that now his poor wife is now also hiv positive.

Another hated his wife so much he fantasised about killing her.

One young woman was so brutalised she left her home with blood running down her legs and still her parents insisted on her returning to the man. She is hiding from them with the help of the police for fear of being taken back to him and/ or murdered.

So to keep making serials where the hero or heroine are forced into a marriage (practically all of them on all channels) hating the counterpart but falling in love in a typical expected way is not only creatively lazy but actually damaging to people's minds and to society.

Especially some recent serials where girls are married off to some dangerously psychopathic individuals- seem dangerously irresponsible. Impressionable young women gush about love-hate relationships without realising such marriages would probably lead to either a life of misery or a secretive and rushed funeral. It is the height of irresponsibility to encourage young people to become puppets and forgo any growth or maturity in order to comply with social norms.

It seems Ragya fans have that kind of thing in mind - comments such as love-hate relationship,marry then gradually be won over with fights angry looks etc the old old old story family elders love to promulgate.

But, as in Laksh's case, just think how terrible it would be if the person you have married has actually deliberate destroyed the one person you had vowed to love and protect. Or for Swara to marry Sanskaar who drugged her and probbaly would not have intervened if the guys in the club had carried her off.

To honour such marriages and relationships would be a blasphemy and a sin. The deepest bettrayal to fall in love with a woman who did everything to cause you deep pain and played with the life of a woman you loved. Could you, reader, love someone who insulted and hurt anyone you loved? The marriage itself is considered sacrosanct... but to me such marriages are an insult to a sacred bond, not a sacred bond itself.

What are your thoughts?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well said. Indian TV soaps are a major factor in a lot of the issues we face in day to day. It is time that TV take responsibility over the role they play in society. They influence us.
I find it sad when they show things, but don't deal with it correctly. Last year one of the shows on zee showed a molestation attempt. It was dealt poorly. The girl pleaded with the guy not to take the culprit to the cops. She was ashamed. The mother didn't care. All she cared about was opening her new business and having lunch. Instead she went all crazy on the guy who saved her.

I found it particularly distasteful, when we have seen such heinous rape crimes in India recently. The battle india has been fighting for women... The battle society has been demanding in change of attitude.

What upset me more was the actors playing the role did use social media to condone it or reply to any of the tweets accepting that it was shown in poor taste. To say, it is just a show, but we don't believe this. That women should not be silent nor ashamed. I lost respect for the actor that day.

I feel every member on the show should take responsibility. Not just the channel, not just the production house.
Edited by angelpureness - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: velvetscarf


<font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">I</font> am another person here who is very
disappointed with the direction the plot seems to be taking. But this post is not
about Swalak or RagYa or any other couple on this or any other show except
indirectly. This post is my expression of deep concern about what the
television industry is conveying to our public - young and old. The message
being passed on through many a serial is that forced marriage - whether by
parents or circumstances or manipulation, is a "Good Idea" and leads to a
development of love and understanding between the leads after initial
misunderstandings, dislike and nok-jhoks.
</font>

<font color="#000000">Apart from tellyworld, we have probably all
heard stories and examples of the type of thing where you honour a marriage no
matter what. These are designed mainly to influence and guide (or control)
youngsters. A couple of examples are:</font>

<font color="#000066">oh, so & so loved a very beautiful girl in college but his parents did
not a agree he was married off to his mother choice but he was not willing to
accept her, made her sleep on the floor, then eventually he was won over by her
love and now they are very happy. </font>

<font color="#000033">Or </font>

<font color="#000066">One girl, during the wedding ceremony discoveredduring the wedding ceremony that her bridegroom was mentally subnormal when he started
asking for sweeties.It seems his uncle was marrying him off to
get his hands on the property but oh wow look at that girl, she was so good she
continued with the ceremony and honoured her marriage vows. </font>

<font color="#000066" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">The message is , do not question your elders
they always know best in every situation also even if you are duped into a
marriage ceremony with a mentally subnormal person considered highly moral to
honour that marriage. Love happens as the flicking of a very convenient switch when the vows are made, the priestschant their mantrasorask qubool hai?</font>

<font color="#000033" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">CVs can show what they like in shows, but in
real life forced weddings very often do not have a happy ending. If you find
happiness in there it is sheer luck. I can tell you that from my own
experience. I cared for someone but his parents did not accept me. He was well
indoctrinated by the stories quoted above and said his duty lay in giving his
parents happiness. The result was just three unhappy damaged lives and one
very dysfunctional relationship. </font>

<font color="#000033" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">On the more serious side I just read a very
disturbing article by a female Asian journalist in Britain who reported the
pressures faced by mostly Asian and Arab youngsters being forced into marriage.
One young man was actually not interested in women, was forced to marry and
consummate - with the result that now his poor wife is now also hiv positive.</font>

<font color="#000033">Another hated his wife so much he fantasised
about killing her. </font>

<font color="#000033">One young woman was so brutalised she left her
home with blood running down her legs and still her parents insisted on her
returning to the man. She is hiding from them with the help of the police for
fear of being taken back to him and/ or murdered.</font>

<font color="#000033" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">So to keep making serials where the hero or
heroine are forced into a marriage (practically all of them on all channels)
hating the counterpart but falling in love in a typical expected way is not
only creatively lazy but actually damaging to people's minds and to society. </font>

<font color="#000033" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">Especially some recent serials where girls are
married off to some dangerously psychopathic individuals- seem dangerously
irresponsible. Impressionable young women gush about love-hate relationships
without realising such marriages would probably lead to either a life of misery
or a secretive and rushed funeral. It is the height of irresponsibility to
encourage young people to become puppets and forgo any growth or maturity in
order to comply with social norms. </font>

<font color="#000033" size="3" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>

<font color="#000033">It seems Ragya fans have that kind of thing in
mind - comments such as love-hate relationship,marry then gradually be won over
with fights angry looks etc the old old old story family elders love to
promulgate. </font>

<font color="#000033">But, as inLaksh's case,just think how terrible it would be if the
person you have married has actually deliberate destroyed the one person you
had vowed to love and protect. Or for Swara to marry Sanskaar who drugged her and probbaly would not have intervened if the guys in the club had carried her off.

To honour such marriages and relationships
would be a blasphemy and a sin.The deepest bettrayal to fall in love with a woman who did everything to cause you deep pain and played with the life of a woman you loved.Could you,reader,love someone who insulted and hurtanyone you loved?</font><font color="#000033">The marriage itself is considered sacrosanct...
but to me such marriages are an insult to a sacred bond, not a sacred bond
itself. </font>

<font color="#000033">What are your thoughts? </font>



You are absolutly spot on velvet. I even feel like suing these channels and PH for the stuff they show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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awesome post (claps)..
and can't agree more...
what they show on TV is mostly contradictory to real life...TV''s fav plot...separate lovers and get them married to someone evil or with harsh intentions for them...and these new relationships works at the end...much much lagging behind the reality...only their mahan characters fit into that but this world is not if mahan janta but if normal people...all ur examples proving it...
biggest shame is a girl asked to continue with someone who treat u like a trash...

want to share an incidence...I was once on a railway station...a guy and his wife came...returning from the girl's home...well lady I should say...middle aged they were..they were sitting on floor on platform...the guy put some sari in their luggage before leaving the lady's home which she took out nd left behind...he was using all the abusive words for her due to this openly on platform...clearly saying that she will be beaten up on reaching home...he even started badmouthing his MIL...I was hearing all this...he looked so illiterate to me...but then I saw then entering the same expensive reputed train which I had to take...I was shocked...that shady seeming guy so easily merged into the crowd in the train..I was left for a long to think for reasons why the lady was continuing with him...my bus answered me...she said these ladies are helpless...they are not married to someone, but their parents just put the burden of their head on someone's feet...they can't protest as they could never gather courage...

I seriously hate TV shows promoting this...it leaves a very bad impact on people's mind...we already need to reform our mindset but these things just drag us back again...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well done and thank you for such an eye opening post. You are right - TV shows tend to portray acts such as forced marriage as something that does not always work against those entering the marriage. But then ironically, they also promote the idea that, relationships cannot survive on the basis of lies, deceit and unhappiness.

Daily soaps, especially romantic ones, will always use messages, storylines and developments for their benefit (TRPs) - the time where creators themselves will ignore their conscience when they think of questionable, immoral, unfriendly stories, for the success of their work.

While there is no certain way of boycotting such promotion of illogical and immoral work, as viewers we should make the wrongness of actions heard and made others aware of. There will be some who may look at the forced marriage track as "the Union of Lakshya and Ragini - "true love."" Through posts such as this, the bigger picture should also be looked at rather than just the soap.

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Hello good people
I wanted to respond in detail but work has been really crazy. its a relief to "meet" likeminded people. I thought this might to too darn serious and gloomy to digest but I was having a MOOD!
I know we say its just a serial a fiction but it is a mirror. and dammit I do NOT want Naagini to get anything at all she wants in life.
Basically it is a defect in our societies - an immaturity and failure to grow up or let us grow up - like saying our children are always liitle children to us which is the biggest nonsense. like the line "Ab too itna bara ho gaya ke apne faisle lene laga...?" as if its the absolute biggest sin to use your own brain and judgement. the individual esp a woman has no value at all.
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Originally posted by: velvetscarf


Hello good people

</div>
I wanted to respond in detail but work has been really crazy. its a relief to "meet" likeminded people. I thought this might to too darn serious and gloomyto digest but I was having a MOOD!
I know wesay its just a serial a fiction but it is a mirror. and dammit I do NOT wantNaagini to get anything at all she wants in life.
Basically it isa defect in our societies - an immaturity and failure to grow up or let us grow up - like saying our children are always liitle children to us which is the biggest nonsense. likethe line "Ab too itna bara ho gaya ke apne faisle lene laga...?"as if its the absolute biggest sin to use your own brain and judgement. the individual esp a woman has no value at all.
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adding to this
quoting an example...dadi always filled values in ragini...but never herself followed it..took all paths to win..ragini also forgot those values..following her footsteps..
no matter even if u talk and fill the wise in ur children..they will learn what they have seen and retain it more...
Edited by ..Roopal.. - 10 years ago
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@ Roopal
Yes that's exactly the kind of thing I mean. Words don't mean anything everyone tells their children to tell the truth & not steal but children only learn what they see. So rags learnt how to deceive lie & go to any extent to fulfill her wishes from her dadi, whilst swara learnt honesty & sincerity mean more than image.
Naagini never learnt the difference between right & wrong never learnt to judge anything for herself, make mistakes & learn from them. She was sheltered from all reality & fed a pap of the type you will (automatically) fall in love with the person you are to marry. Girls are sheltered so much so that they don't learn to understand men or judge them for themselves as people. Therefore they easily go astray or believe any fool or knave when he tells them he loves them...or even if he doesn't.
Of course this goes on generation after generation & we have millions of people who never learn what they really want or their real strengths & weaknesses. We have a distorted idea of morality lying in the shortness of our skirts.
When people in the west speak of character they mean the persons ethics & values & kindness in a much broader sense - we just mean does the girl flirt or sleep around. When people speak of personality in South Asia they mean just appearance - whereas personality is your manner of speaking, your humour, & charm.

So the conclusion is we are a very very shallow bunch of morally immature children! I swear I'm really as bad as Ishita for loong boring lectures!) forgive me please.
Edited by velvetscarf - 10 years ago
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lolz no no
I love going deep on the hatke discussions
and don't name our people's mentality...bas bhashan dilwa lo sabse...just an example...koi rape case ho to saare ke saare aise gussa dikhate hain mano agar rapist same as jaye to akele hi jala daalein...but inke hi same agar koi ladki ko ched se, to just avoid...what I mean is...no one tries to break the league...at the end they go with the crowd...
I have huge family...dadaji's siblings and their families...no away than a phone call...two reside next to my house...I ordered wear kurti...no jeans...as if the talkative bindaas person like me will go shy in kurti...nor i will go biking or roaming around if i wore jeans...it all look complete stupidity to me...but still I wear everything...including one piece and damn I love those expressions on everyone's face..but m sure as my parents understood what I wanted to say, others too will soon...as I feel blessed for my family is open to changes...we are Hindu and have christian, Muslim Italian and even African in our family...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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now m sorry
bhaavnaon mein behke I went bit personal

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