The mind vs the Heart! - Thread - I need You! (Day 17); pg 28

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anotheranfan

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Day 17. We have share jhaappies to reduce the pain we all are in.. Its such an emotional episode..

If i had to quote you, it would be whole post because it is all beautiful so i am just going to mention that here and avoid increasing length of the essay :)

You know when maanik says it was dhruv, not cabir, aliya or mukti.. I wondered why is dhruv so special to him.. Is it because he is weaker among them.. With the attacks and all.. But then i knew it isn't.. They all have such weaknesses may not be physical but they are all flawed.. They all are broken.. So what it is that makes dhruv so special for maanik.. I think he was the first one who showed him that there exists love in this world.. Not the give and take that his mom keeps talking about.. so i really liked how you pointed out that the whole foundation of that is shattered with dhruv's explosion... I think the hurt is most because it wasn't anyone else in fab5 but dhruv... And now i think i understand why.. I had never thought about in detail just assumed their buddy-bro like relation but today his pain made me think about it..

I think dhruv's explosion, it needed to happen... And it was coming since long time.. Otherwise there is no way for dhruv to come out of this unnecessary jealousy, angst that he has gathered over time... Btw i partially agree with you on Aliya being the root cause of this.. But its not completely her fault.. It is dhruv's inherent inferiority complex as well that lead to all this angst he has against Maanik.. He knows that maanik has done a lot for him but seeing him everywhere shining and him being just a person in fab 5 along with his attacks must have built all this for him.. He doesnt see his own identity.. When maanik said he will do solo performance for the concert, i think that must have been nail that pushed him over the edge because he thought why is it that maanik gets everything...

I also think that root cause of this outburst is dhruv's inability to express himself in general... We have seen this during his attraction towards nandini as well... He is so easily influenced that his deep feelings go dormant and bottle up... He should have talked to maanik about his feelings.. Its been a while that fab 5 really shared anything among themselves.. They are really growing and dont know how to share their feelings.. they dont know how the pain reduces, problems are solved by sharing.. Till date they had common problems so it didnt need sharing.. They all had it and all could accept them with those but these new problems that they are seeing in each other, in them selves.. They arent sure how others are going to accept that.. And given that they have only one thing in life to call family - fab5, they are scared to loose the only support they have, the only love that exists in their life.. They havent learnt not have been taught that not sharing is what will break the only unconditional support they have.. Each other.. But this outburst is going to help them learn that...

Today maanik is hurt beyond words.. The first ever person who taught him to believe in love/trust has broken it.. All the allegations that he thought were just drunk talk seem to have come crashing at his door step.. He doesnt know how to handle this.. Where he went wrong.. Is he really crowding him.. Are those allegations true.. If they are true, how come he never felt it that way.. All he thought about was love he felt towards fab5... But see the issue here is in fab5 itself again.. Because they really dont know what love means.. It isnt blind trust, it isnt sacrifice.. it is more about accepting each other with flaws..it is little bit of give and take but not the way niyo keeps saying.. Its about giving by everyone and taking by everyone.. No one person can be just sacrificing goat and no one person can take advantage of such sacrifices.. It is about balance in that give and take.. and not in the transaction sense... Its about giving the love to others.. taking the love from others.. Giving away own worries.. Taking away worries of others... Its about giving others confidence that they can make mistakes and yet would be accepted.. And taking the same confidence from others when they make mistakes.. Its about learning that they can only guide their friends and loved ones on right path but they cant put them on those path themselves.. Dhruv hasnt been able to fully accept the unconditional support that maanik provides.. Thats where this whole inferiority complex arises.. yes dhruv is at wrong here for misjudging maanik, but it is also maanik's duty to sense this.. Is it because he goes overboard with his love.. Is it because he is extremist.. May be.. May be not.. Dhruv is not able to see his own value and as a friend its Maanik's duty to make him realise that.. Now if he had known about this he would have given that too.. Communication thats what it all boils down to.. So yes everyone including me shading tears for Maanik.. But i am shading these tears for Dhruv too.. He is alone at this point.. And yes it is his own doing... He has taken himself away from whole of Fab5.. Alya tried to make a way for him to come back but he has gone too far.. I guess timing wasnt right.. He thought it was because of all this outburst he was having... Mukti is deep in her own hurt and loss of that true love she felt for few days.. Cabir has run behind mukti to take care of her.. Maanik - well he is so hurt and doesnt understand whats happening that he cant be of any help at moment.. So Dhruv is alone.. So how will this resolve.. Would it be unconditional love that fab5 will still shower on him.. Making him realise that it isnt suffocation and love.. Being there for him when he falls down walking on this lonely path? Will Nandini be his friend again and be that outside who can show him way back to fab5.. Would it feel that too biased given how close she is to maanik.. Its only time that will tell this but there is this huge possibility that this outburst has opened.. The fault that ran deep in fab5 foundation, but they should be able to fill in the gaps..

Did you see how Nandini asked panditji to leave fab5 alone and they will be gone in 5 min.. She knows Maanik so well and because of that fab5 too :) They really all went one by one.. I really liked how you wrote that bit with foot steps following to the door one by one.. He was left alone but yes he is never alone since Nandini came into his life.. Because she is always there.. She is his star.. Far away but shining just for him.. Taking off another issue that might have broken him beyond repair if panditji had gone in that room... But once that was done, it was time to come down to ground and be there side by side.. Not as a star but as his friend... He needs that right now the most.. she was there for him asking him to vent out all the emotions so he doesnt end up like dhruv.. Keeping everything in himself and then bursting out one fine day.. But he wasnt ready and she understood that too.. So when he asked her to walk away she did only knowing he would come back.. And he did come back.. Because he cant loose the only support left in his life at this point.. There was no time for mind and heart games.. It was time to surrender to her.. She would only be the one who can guide him out of this fog.. He is broken to the core.. His belief in love is shattered but now its Nandini's duty to make him see what love really means.. It means he can be infront of her not protecting her but being protected by her.. Maanik has always been saying Nandini is his star but his inherent nature to protect his loved ones never lets him see that he can need protection too.. Thats what nandini is going to show him tomorrow.. thats what they are going to learn.. Really they are growing by leaps and bounds.. maanik is taking all the missed classes in Love for past few days.. And our prof nandu is doing excellent job of the teacher.. He should be able to stand up and weather down this storm soon, but first he needs to vent out.. And thats what tomorrow is going to be.. I am so looking fwd to it..

Please ignore if you find the thoughts not flowing well, you know i wrote those in bits and pieces so they may be repetitive or disconnected :)

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maankigeet4ever

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: twinkle10

ughhh! So I need to rant too... like I full wrote my response too and I was so emotionally attached to it because I felt all the scenes were flashing in front of my eyes again and then boom! One slip of a finger and the keypad showed it's magical move and I ended up on a totally uninvited page. Like whyyy? :'( So then I started writing. Agian. And here it goes.

I'm glad you brought up a few points about Mukti. Honestly last night, I was too drenched in my manik's emotion that I felt the least to pay attention to any other character. But whilst we're at it... me shall drop in some things. Mukti's battle with herself was quite evident last night. She got drunk because she didn't want to fall weak. And especially not in front of her friends. If we think about it, she's never had the opportunity to take off this careless and bratty facade of hers and reveal the beauty of her true self. She did get the opportunity a few days ago, but now she has no one to show that side too. He's gone. And he's taken her true self with himself. So she's back with her mask of "I don't give a heck about this world" and has walked in again, knowing that for most people it wouldn't even make a difference because they are used to seeing her like this. Reckless and a mess. I really felt for her yesterday. When Cabir was trying to get her to spill about Abhi... it was a sad moment. She was fighting her tears and sorrow and wanted to conceal it from the whole world as if nothing had ever happened. But I still see hope somewhere. I feel this can't be the end of her story. This is not what she deserves. First her parents, then harshad and now abhi. I still hope with that unread letter than he hasn't abandoned her. He can stop fighting for himself. But he can never stop fighting for her. We saw he know her to the core. So he's bound to know the consequences his disappearance can bring in her life. So there is that teeny weeny hope but at the same time I'm scared for the both of them. I'm scared that what if it becomes too late and no letter is ever read, and no last goodbyes are ever said. I guess only time will tell what's in store though/.

Now onto the the crux of yesterday's episode. Dhruv's unleashed feelings. It really fumed me o see that he put himself on top of all his friends and just vented non-stop, not considering the criticality of yesterday's situation. Mukti needed her friends the most yesterday. Couldn't he have kept mum for her sake? I admit that Manik has nurtured dhruv like his own baby brother, but the rest of the group hasn't cared for him any less. They've always been more protective and more careful towards him than each other because they knew his vulnerability and innocence could be easily manipulated by an external cruelty. But it totally shattered me to see that not only his brotherhood, but he pained his friendship too. And there stood my manik. Completely clueless. Absolutely baffled. Speechless. What? When? Where? How? There was pain. Yes. But there was more pain because he was blaming himself. How I just wanted to hug him and console him that no. It's not your fault. It never was. But he stumbled and fumbled in the cold, dark corridors that imaged the depths of his heart at that moment. He was all alone and it was all silent.

He rejected all her requests to talk to her because he didn't want her to burn in the same fire he was writhing in. Even amidst all his pain, angst and heartbreak. He wanted to protect her. Protect her from himself. But he had forgotten that she was no separate to him. She lived right there. Within him, as her heartbeat. And when he relaised that... it was a truly beautiful moment. The way his lips stutter before finding the right words to tell her. He wanted to say so much but only silence seemed to be pouring from his inner-voice. And that one tear that just rolled down his left cheek. That marked his defeat. He had lost against himself. Lost against all his promises. And that's when he needed her the most.

uh oh... I think I got carried away again. *sigh* the effect manik has on my life lol

I seriously can't wait for tonight's episode and gosh writing on it will be like a dream.

As usual... your essay had everything that my response lacked and so twinkie says thankyou!! haha

Talk soon!
Twinkie <3

Ohhh my twinkie bear...we need to hug it out..IF has been mean..i swear i am gonna start copying every paragraph i end up typing so at least something may be saved that way.

So...while i wanted to refrain to letting more thoughts loose..after reading your response..my wheels got turning again so you know..now a girl's gotta write...lol

Umm...we haven't touched on own Cabira and if we don't talk about him...our essays shall remain incomplete. Cabir is a wonderful friend, no doubt about it and yesterday,he had to pick between two friends, both friends who needed him. He is the last and the most reluctant one to leave Manik. Deep down, he understood Manik's pain and wanted to be there for him. But he realized Mukti needed him more, to save her from making a mistake she is bound to regret. And Manik has always taken care of everyone..his friends aren't use to role reversal, they know Manik takes care of himself and that's where his friends let him down the most. Cabir assumes he will be okay: "you will be okay na, i will call you." I don't blame Cabir thou, he just had to pick the friend that needed him 'more."

Mukti too wears a mask, so glad you pointed that out. Fab 5, man they are such a broken bunch. You were absolutely right in saying that Abhi has taken her true self away. He was the one to show her who she truly is..and what a beautiful person she can be..But as he left..her true reason for smiling, she is back to the facade of drinking, hookups. You know she was prepared for him to die and leave that way where fate left them with no choice..but this way, he has willingly walked away and that's why this hurts her so much more. She wanted to burst out into tears when Cabir asked about Abhi..she wanted to throw herself and cry in her friend's arms that she has been abandoned once again but Mukti like Manik relies on anger to cope. She will be angry with Abhi so the pain dulls to numbness.I sincerely hope that Abhi has gone to try new treatment..for Mukti's sake, he has decided to fight the cancer and defeat it for their love. I have hope left for Abhi and Mukti..they deserve happiness and togetherness.

There is a point where you mention that Manik blames himself and honestly i hadn't thought of that before but it makes complete sense. Manik might eventually blame himself..thinking that he has failed as a friend and brother..that the fault lies within himself( oh this sounds so familiar) But i hope Nandini can help him understand that he isn't so. in reality, he is a wonderful friend, who gives all the love his heart has.

Oh i absolutely love your thought that even amidst all this pain and heartbreak, Manik wants and needs to protect his Nandini. He will even try to shield her from his own wrath. He know his anger is about to consume him and he would hate for her to see the Monster unleash. He would hate to be the reason for her tears. Oh yes ! you said my beautiful moment for me. When Manik comes to her after being so utterly lost, he found her, her light guiding him. Right before he says that he needs it...that struggle, the defeat, the need, the heartbreak..all wrapped up in one look he gives her ! With my emotions on the rise..i forgot about my beautful moment but you said it for me

Ummm..i think i got carried away too..opps :P

Tomorrow tomorrow...hurry the fudge sauce up..lol

- Reya aka Your Sunny <3

Edited by maankigeet4ever - 10 years ago

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twinkle10

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Posted: 10 years ago

#233

Originally posted by: Kapk
I have been a silent reader of all your posts on this thread but I had to comment today. You are a gifted writer OMG. The Way you took us through the emotional war that Manik Went through tonight - hats off. It couldnt have been described in a better Way. I am so thankfull to you that you take out your time to write all this Down and then share it with the rest of us.

Have you started other threads previously where you analyzed each episode this Way? I would love to read it :)

Hullooo! Okay first thing first. Thankyou so much for all the love and appreciation. Seriously I feel so loved when someone says they are usually a silent writer but they take out the time to comment on my post because it means that somewhere I did work some magic haha. Really i appreciate all your praises! Truly touched <3 This is my one and only thread so far. The index is on the first page so you are more than welcome to browse on all the daily updates that I put up. But other than that, I usually just right solo posts for either parth or niti or manan as a whole. I have just started writing a FF too if you want to check it out. I'll drop in the link below :)

Take care babes and thanks once again <3

http://www.india-forums.com/member_posts.asp?PF=1031487

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twinkle10

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Posted: 10 years ago

#234

Originally posted by: shrutiavm
Beautiful Analysis Twinkle!!! reading your analysis makes me enjoy episodes more... eagerly waiting for your tmrw's thoughts!! m so sure ur awesome analysis combined with beautiful acting by KYY cast will make tomrw very beautiful!!

Thankyou so much for the love and support dear! It really is all so heart-warming! <3 Means a lot.

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twinkle10

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Posted: 10 years ago

#235

Hola my lovelies!

So I know many of you might be eagerly waiting for Day 18 of this thread but there is a little bit of a surprise today!

So I watched the episode and I cried with my Manan and I smiled with them too. I ached upon seeing their pain but hoped for them too. The crux of the matter is that my Manan have started new... afresh. And so it requires that I must start afresh too.

A new thread is waiting for you all.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kaisi-yeh-yaariaan/4335542/lets-hope-together-at-updated-16th-july-check-conntents - A new thread... A new beginning!

Love

Twinkle :)

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anotheranfan

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Posted: 10 years ago

#236

Going to new thread now... :) Btw you still owe me replies to my comments on Day 15 and 17 :) Will be waiting on that so please do reply whenever you can :)

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twinkle10

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: anotheranfan
Going to new thread now... :) Btw you still owe me replies to my comments on Day 15 and 17 :) Will be waiting on that so please do reply whenever you can :)

Heya girl! Yup yup... I will surely get around to them after uni today or either tomorrow evening. You wrote me such a beautiful essay. No way I can't express my thoughts. Plus there is always something new I learn from your posts everyday so I need to obviously point out that too haha

Shall see you around soon! <3