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Posted: 10 years ago
You've brought tears to my eyes!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting for your post since I've watched the episode.
You didn't disappoint, sheer brilliance this was! My favourite piece you've written! But wow twinkle this was beautiful
😭

How I'm meant to add any thoughts to what you've just wrote gets me but I will give it a try! We've been writing on how we thought this might go, what we think might happen but the episode excelled all expectations.

ManRuv showdown was something else. He finally got it out, everything's he's has bottled inside has exploded. Hit after hit he told him what he didn't like, and after each hit you could see Manik's face change. He really didn't hold back, he didn't realise the hurt he was causing Manik by the words he was saying. He thinks Manik's the strongest of them all, but he couldn't be more wrong. These words can't be taken back, does he realise that.
Everyone's always questioned why Manik sacrificed his love for Dhruv I think today everyone got their answer!!

Manik is truly broken, more then we've ever seen him. It's like a piece has been separated from his body. He walked lifelessly, numbness running through his body. Words ringing in his ears. It's Dhruv, it wasn't Cabir, Mukti, Alya. It was Dhruv. Oh the pain in his voice has he uttered those words. The disbelief in what's just happened, why has this all happened.

I loved Nandini today, she did everything that no one else could of done. She calmly tried to calm him down, when that didn't work she shouted, Talk to me, throw what you want but just don't keep quiet that still didn't work. He asked her to leave and she did no questions asked because she knew when the time was right he would come to her. And he did "You were right, I need you"
Oh the pain in his eyes, she could see it. He is totally broken. The only solace that can help heal his pain, the only person who he can show the real him without her judging him. He was ready to release what's inside knowing she will gather it all and take his pain and make its hers.
Remember when she said "Manik, tab tum thak jao, I will pick your battles. I will fight for you". And that's exactly what she'll do!!

Love
Preesha
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Posted: 10 years ago
I have been a silent reader of all your posts on this thread but I had to comment today. You are a gifted writer OMG. The Way you took us through the emotional war that Manik Went through tonight - hats off. It couldnt have been described in a better Way. I am so thankfull to you that you take out your time to write all this Down and then share it with the rest of us.
Have you started other threads previously where you analyzed each episode this Way? I would love to read it :)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: aairahahmad

hey...twinkle...

as always a very apt analysis...
well done...👏
sorry was not able to reply on your last few posts...as my exams were going on...

Thankyou lovely for the kind words! That's okay... don't be sorry! Hope your exams went well :)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Kapk

I have been a silent reader of all your posts on this thread but I had to comment today. You are a gifted writer OMG. The Way you took us through the emotional war that Manik Went through tonight - hats off. It couldnt have been described in a better Way. I am so thankfull to you that you take out your time to write all this Down and then share it with the rest of us.

Have you started other threads previously where you analyzed each episode this Way? I would love to read it :)



Mind Vs Heart series are all in thsi post only.. different pages... but all analysis you can find here..
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Posted: 10 years ago
Beautiful Analysis Twinkle!!! reading your analysis makes me enjoy episodes more... eagerly waiting for your tmrw's thoughts!! m so sure ur awesome analysis combined with beautiful acting by KYY cast will make tomrw very beautiful!!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: pkbxo

You've brought tears to my eyes!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting for your post since I've watched the episode.
You didn't disappoint, sheer brilliance this was! My favourite piece you've written! But wow twinkle this was beautiful
😭

How I'm meant to add any thoughts to what you've just wrote gets me but I will give it a try! We've been writing on how we thought this might go, what we think might happen but the episode excelled all expectations.

ManRuv showdown was something else. He finally got it out, everything's he's has bottled inside has exploded. Hit after hit he told him what he didn't like, and after each hit you could see Manik's face change. He really didn't hold back, he didn't realise the hurt he was causing Manik by the words he was saying. He thinks Manik's the strongest of them all, but he couldn't be more wrong. These words can't be taken back, does he realise that.
Everyone's always questioned why Manik sacrificed his love for Dhruv I think today everyone got their answer!!

Manik is truly broken, more then we've ever seen him. It's like a piece has been separated from his body. He walked lifelessly, numbness running through his body. Words ringing in his ears. It's Dhruv, it wasn't Cabir, Mukti, Alya. It was Dhruv. Oh the pain in his voice has he uttered those words. The disbelief in what's just happened, why has this all happened.

I loved Nandini today, she did everything that no one else could of done. She calmly tried to calm him down, when that didn't work she shouted, Talk to me, throw what you want but just don't keep quiet that still didn't work. He asked her to leave and she did no questions asked because she knew when the time was right he would come to her. And he did "You were right, I need you"
Oh the pain in his eyes, she could see it. He is totally broken. The only solace that can help heal his pain, the only person who he can show the real him without her judging him. He was ready to release what's inside knowing she will gather it all and take his pain and make its hers.
Remember when she said "Manik, tab tum thak jao, I will pick your battles. I will fight for you". And that's exactly what she'll do!!

Love
Preesha
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Good day my lovely!!! Awww... omg... I seriously don't know if I should be happy that my writing today really touched your heart or sad that you ended up crying. But I'll be honest with you. This response took me quite some time and effort to write because the episode left me speechless. I was at loss of words at his pain and angst and I wasn't at all sure how I was going to pen down everything on paper without ending up crying myself. But finally I got something down and I'm glad you loved it :)

Now onto the episode... yes indeed. We have been waiting for this confrontation from that very first day I think when Dhruv mocked Aliya about going back to Manik and can I just say it exceeded all it's limits in the intensity! I knew there was hatred, but to this extent? He pretty much named Manik to be everything that my Manik wasn't My manik was never a monster. But today, his own brother narrated him to be one. You're absolutely correct when saying that these words... they've left their mark forever. They are reason for his bleeding. And boy that day isn't far when Dhruv will regret each and every words said. But you know what's the beauty of all this. My manik will again lend out his hand to help his brother. To wipe the tears of his guilt. Because that's who manik is.

I loved the last few lines of your response. Geez girl... such fine use of language! You bet he knows that there is no one else for him now. She's is world. His day. His night. And he trusts her to make all this pain go away. Today the mind and the heart were on the same side because they needed her like never before. Very well done on recalling that quote. Tomorrow she will become his biggest strength. His shining armor. It's the first time her manik has cried for help. And let whatever come in the way, she won't fail him this time!

Man... I just can't for tonight. Like I've watched that precap countless time and I have a feeling I'm going to fall short of words trying to describe my manik's pain and nandini's consolation. PaNi are going to be at their best I reckon.

Talk to you soon sweets!

Love
Twinkle :)
Edited by twinkle10 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: anotheranfan


as you rightly pointed out todays scene is one my few best scenes of navya ever as a character.. Her equation with her mother.. Wow.. We had seen something similar in Cabir and his mom's relation too early on.. But it didnt work out after he came out of the closet.. But not all moms are same and not all kids are same.. See this mom.. She was hurt, angry and most of all worried about what others think (because believe it or not we have to face others everyday) So the instant reaction on the news was as expected.. But as you said Navya's tears said it all.. Her mom is ready to face the world for her daughter.. she is ready with different solutions that she can think of.. But most of all what i liked was her trust on daughter when she told that the father wont take responsibility nor would marry her.. So as cliche as it was the way her mom found out i really loved how this whole scene played out.. It had touch of reality and believability which as i said in my earlier post i sometimes face especially with navya.. So this was pleasant surprise.. Loved this scene. But unlike you this wasnt my most fav scene of the episode 😉 Manan scene won by huge margin which i will get to but will talk about fab5 first.

@bold on cabira section - i dont think cavya are there yet.. They are still at nascent stage in their friendshp.. Yes it would be a stronger bond bound by hurt, pain, loss of love, betrayal, rejection as you said, but i think there is still some time for it mold stronger and very long time for them to realise it.. As of now, Cabir's concern for Navya is mainly out of guilt and fear of kids and having her around.. While Navya's i guess is from her soon to be found motherhood and sense of being the lady of the house for the first time... it would take few more shocks, incidences and days before their routine will become their need.. They will crave for each others company because it can fill the emptiness brought on by their respective lovers, families..

@ bold on Navya's mom.. I am thinking, she doesnt yet know that cabir stays in same house.. It would be entertaining to see how she finds out and reacts.. I cant predict what her reaction would be.. Would she scold cabir for not accepting baby thinking that he is father and cabir's reply to that would be surely laugh riot.. atleast i hope it is.. Dont want any serious drama there.. navya's mom is too cool for this cliched dramas 😆

@ mukti's call that you dont have in the post-- i am not sure if she has read the letter or not.. My optimistic hope says she hasnt and hence she is hurt and trying to go back to her old ways.. But again for few seconds not much to say there.. Lets see whats going on there hopefully sometime soon..

Now coming to favorite scenes
I really liked how nandini tries to calm maanik down but maanik being maanik scared for nandini's safety cant get over the fact that panditji is trying to take him off the concert... Liked how nandini tried to tell him that they were at wrong there.. They were in position that is appropriate only on our screens 😉 surely not in the class.. So panditji seeing them and thinking it was maanik who troubled her isnt creepy as such.. I would like to think that way atleast till proven otherwise 😆 Esp given maanik has tendency to get her in trouble all the time which panditji has witnessed 😊 And our maanik's mind might have got one point for coming up that pretense line of being glad that he is not in the concert anymore but his heart has got atleast 1/2 point for all the anger he showed when panditji left.. So Nandini no need to be that disheartened. 😊

I like what you said about niyo... The whole trying to instigate maanik against panditji and increasing his doubts -well the games that niyo knows how to play.. Btw kishwar plays niyo amazingly well.. The attitude, the class.. the smartness.. the confidence.. each line is full of those emotions... Isnt this whole doubt even during holi event started by her game plans only.. Maanik is getting the dose that nandini got when he was not suppose to talk to her for a day.. But luckily for maanik, nandini is here this time.. She is being his mind and asking him to think carefully.. asking him to trust that teacher - student relation so pure that it cannot be tinted like that.. She making him aware of how niyo plays with the minds.. She doesnt know that.. but she is doing and her mind is winning over his mind... his heart and her heart... He is atleast able to think that he may be wrong in thinking that panditji has different agenda than seeing nandini flourish in her music.. And i like that .. Because till this day he just didnt see this side at all.. From nandini's side also she is thinking about what maanik said when panditji talks about world tour, touches her hand accidentally.. I think what i like in this is that they both are considering each others emotions.. and thoughts as valid.. Otherwise they both are so stubborn to even consider that they can be wrong and other person right.. So this is something new in their relation that was missing earli during soha track, during navya's school return protest arranged by nandini... So see they are already on path to build stronger relation this time.. So this has to be my favorite episode in days.. offcourse hugs/missed kisses and holi fun are good but this one adds another level to their love.. As you said its building foundation day 😊

Precap - i am going to hold on thoughts on that one.. I want to see how maanik reacts.. I really see furture in this track.. Exactly what nandini always feared.. Will maanik chose to give up the concert for dhruv or he will chose nandini this time.. Lets see if our boy has learnt any lessons.. But lessons learnt or not he is going to need to vent out frustration, pain, hurt he is going to see and who is better for the task than our nandu.. and she is there through this scene.. yey..😊


Hai hai!

Sorry couldn't reply to you r response yesterday. Had definitely read it, but I absolutely just ran out of time by the time I got to the new update.

I totally agree on that confrontation of navya's mum and Cabir. Haha undoubtedly she's going to think of him being the father and now the question remains that what will her response be in return? Obviously my Cabira can't disclose that he's gay because that would just mean that mother naveli would end up at a hospital due to a heart attack. But would he play along is my question? It's a scene I'm definitely waiting for because it'll be filled with immense entertainment.

I'm still in utter delight about the accepting and understanding persona of navya's mother. Hats off to the CV's for thinking out of the box for this situation. And then there's us. Used to so much declination and dejection in ky2, we had it all planned out that Navya was going to be disowned like Cabir too. But glad the story isn't heading that way. Perhaps this could also mean that since mother naveli will be living in the house for sometime I guess... will she shower our cabira with the missing motherly affection and care in his life too? Obviously it won't be shown straight away... but it is a possibility I guess.

Now onto my manan. No doubt there is a positive progression in their relationship. Apart from learning how to love each other, they've learnt how to respect each other as well as respect this beautiful bond they share. They've started expressing their fears and thoughts, unhesitatingly which is making their trust stronger day by day. We've always said that relationships are not all about love. There needs to a balance of all emotions. And these emotions are slowly beginning to surface and become visible in their relationship. I would say that this temporary distance between the two lovers was necessary in order for the to reunite forever. They are finally learning how to balance out the thoughts of the mind and the instincts of the heart which is keeping their relationship at the point of equilibrium. So definitely that favourite part of your where both of them are in fact taking the time out to consider each other's trail of thoughts, reflects this positive change. It is the sign of a strong, unbreakable relationship that is on it's way to forming.

I think I'm not going to drop in any thoughts about the precap because that means today's episode and I look forward to seeing what were your thoughts on it: )

Take care!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

Btw i forgot to mention in earlier post, i dont see panditji looking at her with delight today or accidently touching her hand wierd at all.. as i say that touch was accidental and i would like to believe the smile was for the music she was playing.. The happiness that guru gets when his shishya excels... So except holi (the looks and remembering was creepy for sure that day atleast i remember feeling it that way then, havent watched it again since) i havent seen him tending towards creepiness yet.. Yes i am still being optimistic here.. I want pure student teacher relation that even nandu believes in


I honestly have to say I love your optimism towards panditji, it kind of lights a hope in me too that perhaps the situation isn't going to turn out the way we all have been contemplating. And now that I've seen how Navya's mother reacted about Navya's pregnancy, I wouldn't be surprised if this plot takes a turn and there happens to be a twist in the story further on. Hoping for the best! haha
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Originally posted by: twinkle10


I'm still in utter delight about the accepting and understanding persona of navya's mother. Hats off to the CV's for thinking out of the box for this situation. And then there's us. Used to so much declination and dejection in ky2, we had it all planned out that Navya was going to be disowned like Cabir too. But glad the story isn't heading that way. Perhaps this could also mean that since mother naveli will be living in the house for sometime I guess... will she shower our cabira with the missing motherly affection and care in his life too? Obviously it won't be shown straight away... but it is a possibility I guess.


I had not thought about this at all... I would love to see this... I think as you said navya's mom is going to have trouble accepting him being gay.. And i am sure it wouldnt be as easier as standing by navya transition for her... After all navya is her daughter.. But as days go by she would see the bond they are sharing and that will help her find that bond too.. I love this new possibility you have shared.. Hope we get something like this..
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Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

an early res..not allowed i know but let's make an exception this time around..Just for the sake of my sanity..lol

i love you forever my twinkie bear

-Reya aka Your Sunny <3

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Fudge Fudge fudge..fish sauce fish sauce..Damn...i typed like more than half my response and i hit the back space to fix something and BAAM !!! my words are gone...like i cannot explain how pissed i am. This response i genuinely struggled with. When i emotionally connect with a character...i just feel the emotions..i couldn't find the right words today...and i seriously struggled and now it's all gone. damn :( here goes attempt 2


Okies..i am here and first and foremost, please take a damn bow. This was not just your usual amazing but this...this is probably your best analysis yet. Honestly, i wanted to bold the entire analysis today. The episode was really a emotional one and your words...they just took me back to the heartbreak..like damn ! like i was re-experiencing the entire heartbreak all over again. Oh the emotions.

I actually like to start with Mukti. I was somewhat mentally prepared for Manik's heartbreak but Mukti, it ached my heart to see the old Mukti back, trying so desperately to conceal her broken heart. The dark, black makeup, the hookups, the alcohol, that's isn't Mukti anymore and you can tell how broken she is now. The biggest smiles hidden the saddest stories they say and Mutki is reverting to old self in a failed attempt to forget the man who broke her heart when he was the one to heal her, to teach her all about life. Abhi, truly disappointed in him. He shouldn't let her come close if he wanted to walk away while he is much alive. Mukti already has abandonment issues, and Mukti has reenforced her beliefs: everyone she loves will walk away from her. Abhi had given wise advice to Nandu at the hospital, to not waste time playing games and unfortunately he didn't go by his words. In a way, he is playing a game, playing with the emotions of his girl's heart. Sighs..i want to go on but honestly, i can't because i will get emotional for Mukti all over again. I connect with her character, while half the time i don't agree with the way she treats Nandini or Manan's relationship, i have hope for her character..and today i connected with Mukti's heartbreak and wanted to punch Abhi in the face for bringing the old Mukti back, the old Mukti with a new heartbreak, one that will leave the most damage.

Dhruv..he lay it out all out today...that too selfishly. He already knew that Mukti needed Fab 5 today, she needed her friends..her family to take her broken soul but even then, he pulled a selfish move and lash out at Manik today. The resentment and bitterness has been building up for so long now, that in a way i am glad he let it all today. Manik, he needed to stop living in the illusion what he thought their relationship still is. Alya has created a bitter man, she tried to redeem herself today, confessing her love in front of Fab5 in hopes of saving their relationship but a tad too late Miss. Mini Dress. She is giving Dhruv what he no onger cares for, she had a hand in creating this new Dhruv, one has gone too far, almost a point of no return. He stood there, stating the 'facts', lashing out bitter words that sliced through his best friend's heart. And the give and take ! he pulled a Nyionka and that hurt Manik so bad..that Dhruv gave a price to his years of love and friendship a price tag in exchanging of keeping a secret..or so generously giving Alya up to Manik, how shallow Dhruv, how bloody shallow. Manik's heart, which only knows how to give love, to protect the ones he loves. Dhruv, he is very much a part of Manik's existence..he has a corner in Manik's heart but he so easily broke that same heart he resides in. Dhruv blinded by his bitterness and resentment butchered single handedly butchered the sacred relationship of friendship and brotherhood, inflicted permeant damage to it

Manik. First i have to applaud Parth for his stellar performance today. Everyone acted wonderfully today but Parth, that man, he stole the show today. He was just in a state of shock today. What ? What was his best friend saying ? Where ? Where is all of this coming from ? How ? How could his best friend say all the things he did ? He simply fathom how he best friend, his buddy, could feel this bitterness, this resentment, this hatred towards him. The boy he grew up, the one friend he found his initial years of love and solace and happiness with. The guy who he found his love for music with. All gone. He lost so much today..lost the most beautiful thing...lost the happiest part of his childhood, lost the reason for why he loves stars, lost the reason for his heart to always protect and love, lost his buddy.

Everyone eventually walks away. Fab 5 are always there when they need each other but today, Dhruv's words divided them all. They all walked off...to nurse a heartbreak, to save a friend, to end a relationship..and how easily they left the stunned, broken boy there. Today, i saw a broken lost soul, saw a picture of how he grew up..All Alone ! He takes care of everyone, all the freaking time and the one time he is about to fall...his friends aren't there for him like he is for them but he isn't alone. His shining star silently stood there, tears being shed watching him suffer.. She watched his heartbreak knowing he would need her, knowing she would need to find a way to ease his pain, to share his sorrow.

He is use to being alone..to fighting in the darkness alone that his natural reflex is fight ! to fight the help she wants to give. He isn't use to it, someone caring for him. He wants to be alone in his misery, to lash out when he finally registers the words that have been spoken and forever imprinted in his memory. When the pain hits, he wants to be alone. Anger is his only constant emotion..even as his heart is broken, he just wants to feel angry. He doesn't want to need her, he wants to need no one ! " I don't need you" I say, even in pain, they are companions. And today Nandini truly was his companion, refusing to leave him. Despite his denial, she knows just much he needs her. She rather that he lets it all out, she can bear all his anger, he can throw things around but this stoic, silent Manik, she can't bear it. She wants to hold him when he falls. And his heart...he needs her..it cries out "I need you.". His sorrow will shed in his tears tomorrow and he needs her more than ever.

Oh God, honestly speaking, the precap already brought tears to my eyes. Tomorrow, Manik Maltorta is going to fall to his knees in utter defeat and for once he doesn't have to be alone. She will gather her in his petite arms and become his strength...she promised when he would be too weak to go on, she would become his strength.

Okies..i think i am done..i am never happy with a attempt 2 but here it is.. You were fab today as you shall tomorrow..i can't wait for tomorrow analysis.

With love as always,

- Reya aka Your Sunny <3


ughhh! So I need to rant too... like I full wrote my response too and I was so emotionally attached to it because I felt all the scenes were flashing in front of my eyes again and then boom! One slip of a finger and the keypad showed it's magical move and I ended up on a totally uninvited page. Like whyyy? :'( So then I started writing. Agian. And here it goes.

I'm glad you brought up a few points about Mukti. Honestly last night, I was too drenched in my manik's emotion that I felt the least to pay attention to any other character. But whilst we're at it... me shall drop in some things. Mukti's battle with herself was quite evident last night. She got drunk because she didn't want to fall weak. And especially not in front of her friends. If we think about it, she's never had the opportunity to take off this careless and bratty facade of hers and reveal the beauty of her true self. She did get the opportunity a few days ago, but now she has no one to show that side too. He's gone. And he's taken her true self with himself. So she's back with her mask of "I don't give a heck about this world" and has walked in again, knowing that for most people it wouldn't even make a difference because they are used to seeing her like this. Reckless and a mess. I really felt for her yesterday. When Cabir was trying to get her to spill about Abhi... it was a sad moment. She was fighting her tears and sorrow and wanted to conceal it from the whole world as if nothing had ever happened. But I still see hope somewhere. I feel this can't be the end of her story. This is not what she deserves. First her parents, then harshad and now abhi. I still hope with that unread letter than he hasn't abandoned her. He can stop fighting for himself. But he can never stop fighting for her. We saw he know her to the core. So he's bound to know the consequences his disappearance can bring in her life. So there is that teeny weeny hope but at the same time I'm scared for the both of them. I'm scared that what if it becomes too late and no letter is ever read, and no last goodbyes are ever said. I guess only time will tell what's in store though/.

Now onto the the crux of yesterday's episode. Dhruv's unleashed feelings. It really fumed me o see that he put himself on top of all his friends and just vented non-stop, not considering the criticality of yesterday's situation. Mukti needed her friends the most yesterday. Couldn't he have kept mum for her sake? I admit that Manik has nurtured dhruv like his own baby brother, but the rest of the group hasn't cared for him any less. They've always been more protective and more careful towards him than each other because they knew his vulnerability and innocence could be easily manipulated by an external cruelty. But it totally shattered me to see that not only his brotherhood, but he pained his friendship too. And there stood my manik. Completely clueless. Absolutely baffled. Speechless. What? When? Where? How? There was pain. Yes. But there was more pain because he was blaming himself. How I just wanted to hug him and console him that no. It's not your fault. It never was. But he stumbled and fumbled in the cold, dark corridors that imaged the depths of his heart at that moment. He was all alone and it was all silent.

He rejected all her requests to talk to her because he didn't want her to burn in the same fire he was writhing in. Even amidst all his pain, angst and heartbreak. He wanted to protect her. Protect her from himself. But he had forgotten that she was no separate to him. She lived right there. Within him, as her heartbeat. And when he relaised that... it was a truly beautiful moment. The way his lips stutter before finding the right words to tell her. He wanted to say so much but only silence seemed to be pouring from his inner-voice. And that one tear that just rolled down his left cheek. That marked his defeat. He had lost against himself. Lost against all his promises. And that's when he needed her the most.

uh oh... I think I got carried away again. *sigh* the effect manik has on my life lol

I seriously can't wait for tonight's episode and gosh writing on it will be like a dream.

As usual... your essay had everything that my response lacked and so twinkie says thankyou!! haha

Talk soon!
Twinkie <3
Edited by twinkle10 - 10 years ago

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