Glorious Pratap, a coward? What is wrong with you?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Folks,
I read somwhere, where some are calling Pratap's escape from Akbar as an act of cowardice. I just boil when I read this. But I have only the below to share with those folks:
- now, what is wrong in running away from the battle field? Kshatriya dharma is all about protecting the motherland and not to prove one's own guts. The focus to protect the land should never be lost. So, this only shows how focussed and steadfast Pratap was, a great lion that he was he did not care about his name being tainted, but was only focussed on saving his mathrubhoomi. Look at his guts!
I am reminded of the Vidura Neeti verse (Vidura Neeti is the advise given by Vidura to Dhirudarashtira) - Forbearance should not be considered a fault, for it is the greatest strength; it is indeed a virtue of the weak and an ornament of the strong.
It needs more guts to patiently bear than react. Test of inner strength is much tougher than the test of the physical strength. Now, you know why I have great reagards for Yudishtira. It is easy to react, but extremely difficult to stand the ground of dharma even during trying times.
- if Pratap had not escaped then, most of Mewar would not have been recovered. People who talk about his running away, can they not think about his reclaiming Mewar (but for Chittor) alter? And this too, in what state? Not that he was king of a big empire, with millions of soldiers at his disposal then. He was still on hiding then. Is this not sheer might, intelligence, grit and what not? Hats off to you my all-time hero!
- Lord Krishna, ran away from Jarasand as we all know. He also ran away from Kalanemi. Now, will anyone sensible call him a coward? As we know Lord Krishna could have burnt Jarasand with his entire army by His mere sankalpa, not even lifting a finger. So, where is the room for cowardice. This is but sheer brilliance and more importatnly, knowing well what needs to be done then and doing just that in the interest of all, instead of being carried away by one's ego. He was just practical. So was our dear Pratap.
- Assuming, subjected to his ego and not allowing his name to be tainted, if Pratap had continued the war, knowing the result well that they are going to loose and they are all going to die, ans still he allows himself to be killed, what exactly has been achieved now? Maybe people will say he died on the battlefield for his country. But my question is, did the country benefit by his death? Of what use is such death, than to oneself whose name may be intact? One needs to be able assess what is the need of the hour - and Pratap was clear as ever. To save his mother land, he has to save himself first. That is the best thing to be done given the situation then. Fine, he may be called a coward, but he would still have met his objective and stood by his Kshatriya dharma. For that matter, if Pratap had died in the battlefield portraying himself as a warrior, am not sure he would be remembered today. It was his escape and a continued struggle to free his motherland despite all odds that won the hearts of many.
I had to let it go...am just furious when ppl call Pratap a coward.
To me, it is an absolutely senseless talk. I have the greatest regard for Pratap and it will ever remain so.
Kaana

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AKT.JA thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pay no attention to shallow comments of shallow people! A coward would simply refuse to fight. A wise fighter on the other hand would fight at a time/place and in a manner of his choosing to achieve his goals. People like MP, Shivaji, or even Prophet Mohammad if we include Islamic history at its very source, they could all have taken an unwise stand against more powerful enemies and died for no good reason. Instead they chose to be strategic, withdrew to safety, and lived to regroup and fight another day to achieve their objectives.

That said, everyone has a right to judge history how he sincerely believes and we needn't be too upset about that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice words 👍🏼 loved your posts
let me put my views on this matter
escaping from battlefield is good move or symbol of coward depends on condition of his escaping.

if anyone escaping for his personal bebefit as he have fear to die then it will be symbol of coward but if you escape coz you know you cant win at this time..you have to prepare yourself more strong as enemy is more stronger..than it will called a good move..as you will come back to protect your motherland again..
pratap left battlefield coz he want to live for his motherland, he wants to protect his motherland ..he didnt leave coz he has any fear of death..he wants to live and die for his motherland..but he wants to make his motherland secure before die..so leaving battlefield has a meaning at that time and it was a good move and shows a good leadership of pratap..

So i proud on pratap as he keep doing efforts to protect his motherland..he have no fear to die.and that move was not a symbol of coward..he has guts to fight back again..he is great freedom fighter and every motherland need warriors like him
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: menoila

nice words 👍🏼 loved your posts
let me put my views on this matter
escaping from battlefield is good move or symbol of coward depends on condition of his escaping.

if anyone escaping for his personal bebefit as he have fear to die then it will be symbol of coward but if you escape coz you know you cant win at this time..you have to prepare yourself more strong as enemy is more stronger..than it will called a good move..as you will come back to protect your motherland again..
pratap left battlefield coz he want to live for his motherland, he wants to protect his motherland ..he didnt leave coz he has any fear of death..he wants to live and die for his motherland..but he wants to make his motherland secure before die..so leaving battlefield has a meaning at that time and it was a good move and shows a good leadership of pratap..

So i proud on pratap as he keep doing efforts to protect his motherland..he have no fear to die.and that move was not a symbol of coward..he has guts to fight back again..he is great freedom fighter and every motherland need warriors like him

well said babaji👏...tiger also takes one step backwards before taking high jump⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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--RES--


Hi Kaana,

Maharana Pratap was NOT a Coward..!!!
I am laughing hard thinking of the very "prospect" of this LINE.

I am ready to Debate with all point with anyone on this issue... !

He is the one who has personally LED FROM THE FRONT despite having a negligible army compared to his opponent Mughal Emperor Akbar.

I have been advised to stay away from Laptop for some time. 😉
So, I am reserving my post ..
Will update this as soon as possible..

Hope you have seen my other LOOONG post on your thread by now.
Link :Do Read>: 119511460

Nice Post. :)


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Posted: 11 years ago
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BTW,

@Kaana

Do check out this post of mine, i made a month back.


Here,
In this post, I have posted some details about the last days of his life here and his struggle with Akbar here. You will get a GLIMPSE of struggle this MAN faced through out his Life.

Would be interesting to hear your thoughtS on this..

Here is the Link >> Remembering Maharana Pratap Sisodia

Also,
One can judge a person in his/her own manner, do not let anyone's opinion affect you.

Will post more later. :)


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear friends, I will be off the forum for few days now. Hope to revert later part of next week. In the meanwhile, please do keep sharing your thoughts.

@Abhay, please take your time and share the glories of Maharana. Even those few words penned by you were honey to the ears. And thanks for the link, will definitely look it up. And I enjoyed your post on my other thread, thanks a bunch for your time on that. See you around. TC.

@AK.J, menoila, rashi - thanks for sharing your thoughts, enjoyed reading them. Will revert.

Kaana
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kaana, I was shocked even reading the thread title!
WHO would think like this, clearly has no knowledge of history and what great warrior Maharana Pratap was.

I would just like to use few phrases "lose a battle but win a war", "tactical retreat", "lakh mare to chalega lekin unka poshinda (that is leader/provider) jina chahiye" - these phrases have a meaning that seems to be lost on whoever can twist a brave warrior's fight into something ugly!

Maharana Pratap was ANYTHING but a coward. He could have chosen to live easy luxurious cozy life if he had entered into cowardly convenient alliance with Akbar for saving his life. Instead he chose to fight for his motherland, for his religion and for his people. He did not just risk his own life he risked of his entire family.

This is why TODAY when Indians think of Heroes the names that come to mind immediately are just two - Maharana Pratap and Shivaji Maharaj. That they chose the hard life with risk to not just their own lives but their families over cowardice and luxuries is why we love them today.

It is said that you need to remember those who have been part of shaping history - Maharana Pratap and Shivaji Maharaj do not need to be remembered cos NO INDIAN PERSON WILL EVER FORGET THEM. You remember those who get forgotten. These two still live in the hearts of people centuries later.

19th February 1630 was great Shivaji Maharaj's birth date and this coming Thursday is his 385-th birth anniversary. Maharana Pratap was decades older than him - still even today if you ask ANY CHILD to name greatest heroes and fighters of this country they will name Maharana Pratap and Shivaji Maharaj.

Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to brush up his/her knowledge, information and prejudices!

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kaana

Hi Folks,
I read somwhere, where some are calling Pratap's escape from Akbar as an act of cowardice. I just boil when I read this. But I have only the below to share with those folks:
- now, what is wrong in running away from the battle field? Kshatriya dharma is all about protecting the motherland and not to prove one's own guts. The focus to protect the land should never be lost. So, this only shows how focussed and steadfast Pratap was, a great lion that he was he did not care about his name being tainted, but was only focussed on saving his mathrubhoomi. Look at his guts!
I am reminded of the Vidura Neeti verse (Vidura Neeti is the advise given by Vidura to Dhirudarashtira) - Forbearance should not be considered a fault, for it is the greatest strength; it is indeed a virtue of the weak and an ornament of the strong.
It needs more guts to patiently bear than react. Test of inner strength is much tougher than the test of the physical strength. Now, you know why I have great reagards for Yudishtira. It is easy to react, but extremely difficult to stand the ground of dharma even during trying times.
- if Pratap had not escaped then, most of Mewar would not have been recovered. People who talk about his running away, can they not think about his reclaiming Mewar (but for Chittor) alter? And this too, in what state? Not that he was king of a big empire, with millions of soldiers at his disposal then. He was still on hiding then. Is this not sheer might, intelligence, grit and what not? Hats off to you my all-time hero!
- Lord Krishna, ran away from Jarasand as we all know. He also ran away from Kalanemi. Now, will anyone sensible call him a coward? As we know Lord Krishna could have burnt Jarasand with his entire army by His mere sankalpa, not even lifting a finger. So, where is the room for cowardice. This is but sheer brilliance and more importatnly, knowing well what needs to be done then and doing just that in the interest of all, instead of being carried away by one's ego. He was just practical. So was our dear Pratap.
- Assuming, subjected to his ego and not allowing his name to be tainted, if Pratap had continued the war, knowing the result well that they are going to loose and they are all going to die, ans still he allows himself to be killed, what exactly has been achieved now? Maybe people will say he died on the battlefield for his country. But my question is, did the country benefit by his death? Of what use is such death, than to oneself whose name may be intact? One needs to be able assess what is the need of the hour - and Pratap was clear as ever. To save his mother land, he has to save himself first. That is the best thing to be done given the situation then. Fine, he may be called a coward, but he would still have met his objective and stood by his Kshatriya dharma. For that matter, if Pratap had died in the battlefield portraying himself as a warrior, am not sure he would be remembered today. It was his escape and a continued struggle to free his motherland despite all odds that won the hearts of many.
I had to let it go...am just furious when ppl call Pratap a coward.
To me, it is an absolutely senseless talk. I have the greatest regard for Pratap and it will ever remain so.
Kaana

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Dharma eva hato hanti dharmo rakshati rakshitah |

(One who acts contrary to dharma perishes and one who follows it is protected.)


I agree with you Kaana...a hundred percent...I bet that one of the most successful politicians in history who wrote about Sama, Dama, Danda, Bheda, Maya, Upeksha and Indrajala will also agree with you( he too will be butchered soon in another show by the makers of MP ...waiting to watch how they manage to do it) . But you have to understand that these soaps are made for the "masses" ...not people who have an in depth knowledge and understanding of history, politics and dharma...unlike you, they take the sadistic saas bahu saga presented in form of a " historical" show as gospel. So without doing any research or bothering to use their brains, they label a great man as a coward...this is based on what is presented to them by the likes of Ekta Kapoor...I don't know much about the PH of MP, but it looks like that they too understand that the best way to attract these " masses" is to feed them something their brains can comprehend...saas bahu and saazish works well. I really hope that they don't make a show on Bhagat Singh...I wouldn't be able to tolerate Bhagat Singh being called a coward or deshdrohi by these "masses".
This is democracy...an idiot could run for the post of PM ( and had support😭 of the rich and mighty...still does... Thank God, he is not in power)...similarly, in democracy, people have the right to call a great man coward...knowledge and intellect is not a requirement for expressing views...How many of these judgmental people have the courage to " die for the country"...none of them I bet. It is easy to sit in the luxury of their TV room and rubbish the efforts of a great and courageous man based on the crap presented in a soap opera. No one bothers to read about the real person...passing judgement without making an effort to do any research is acceptable. So don't boil your blood over it...RIGHT TO IDIOCY is a RIGHT in democracy. We can complain but not deprive others of that. So Chill my friend!
Edited by Cleo12345 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345


I agree with you Kaana...a hundred percent...I bet that one of the most successful politicians in history who wrote about Sama, Dama, Danda, Breda, Maya, Upeksha and Indrajala will also agree with you( he too will be butchered soon in another show by the makers of MP soon...waiting to watch how they do it) . But you have to understand that these soaps are made for the "masses" ...not people who have an in depth knowledge and understanding of history, politics and Dharma...unlike you, they take the sadistic saas bahu saga presented in form of a " historical" show as gospel. So without doing any research or bothering to use their brains, they label a great man as a coward...this is based on what is presented to them by the likes of Ekta Kapoor...I don't know much about the PH of MP, but it looks like that they too understand that the best way to attract these " masses" is to feed them something their brains can comprehend...saas bahu and saazish works well. I really hope that they don't make a show on Bhagat Singh...I wouldn't be able to tolerate Bhagat Singh being called a coward or deshdrohi by these "masses".
This is democracy...an idiot could run for the post of PM ( and had support😭 of the rich and mighty...still does)...similarly, people have the right to call a great man coward...knowledge and intellect is not a requirement for expressing views...How many of these judgmental people have the courage to " die for the country"...none of them I bet. It is easy to sit in the luxury of their TV room and rubbish the efforts of a great and courageous man based on the crap presented in a soap opera. No one bothers to read about the real person...passing judgement without making an effort to do any research is acceptable. So don't boil your blood over it...RIGHT TO IDIOCY is a RIGHT in democracy. We can complain but not deprive others of that. So Chill my friend!




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