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Posted: 11 years ago
Hayye re Sauten... you are not even letting me appreciate your drool corner in the same post.😭 What the!
Sexy first look drools!!! Like you always say, Arnav Singh Raizada ka nishana kabhi nahi chookta🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aarwen


Indi Di wonderful VM.. I loved the inter mixing of black and white in the narration.. There is one scene you use where she open her hair and then semi turns back.. The very next pigeons fly out into the open skies.. It is Arnav, is it Khushi or is it us soaring high..limitless.. Unbound.. Reminds me of Jonathan Livingston seagull.. And really the show makes us try so my new things and remind us of so many old things.. Lovely..

As always both actors look quite different in this first episode, but how unimaginably stunning..

And did you say youare writing your take on episode 1? Me lining up for first day first show front row seats pileez..

Hum hu do nandakissore! Phirst day phirst show phront row seat pileeej! 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

rhea,

did you say jonathan livingston seagull. 😃 i thought of him again and again... soaring, reaching that place where you have to do nothing, just spread your wings and cruise.

uh huh, they are both masakali in a way and so is ipk... i am shallow and enjoyed the lusty yay yay coming on the man taking off his shades. most of the song just fell into pace on its own... the feel. the pauses, the rise of music, even that badal ki colony. honestly, zero work on the sound side i did...

you like the black and whites and the interspersing of eyes closing opening? oh the basic shots are so strong, see them just like that again an again, raw, no touchuppiya, they get you. that falling into his arms, honestly as momentous as anything i have ever seen in the man woman category, more than most, famous man woman shots flash through the mind... it's classic and beyond.

ha, this i guess was my oneirical take on something that is a dream and sheer poetry anyway...

yes, i must write one... it's calling me. 😆 you do know phroid ji visits us these days, you talk like that too much and he will have big problem dealing with a masakaali matakali ego udoing and inflating. 😳

thanks so much for saying all you do, and watching my kabootar ishtory.


Richard Bach, its been quite a while since I read that. Memory has faded.
Masakali , in the context of the movie, wasn't the song about a girl who wanted to spread her wings and fly, soar. But her wings are clipped by family, convention, norm, the usual...
Ha, that first fall into his arms. Was watching 22 & 23 yesterday (after reading your takes for the umpteenth time, of course). That brooding stance in the office and La comes and says how bad her photos look. But in his mind he sees otherwise. La makes a move (😡 found it difficult to watch) and he, did he want to remove the image of the girl from his head? And the anger when she comes in, felt so bad for that nave young girl. That look of remorse on his face when she leaves, was it one of the first times when her tears affect him?
You mentioned a song from rock star in an earlier post. Couple of lines from another song from that movie has stayed with me from the first listen. 'Jo bhi main, kehena chahoon, barbaad karey alfaaz mere'. In the voice of Mohit C of course, the way he says words, its as if he enjoys the feel and texture of them.
This is fun😆!
Can I send you song requests for vms?!!!!
p.s: phroidji wouldn't need to go any where else, or see anyone else, enough egos and alter egos on these threads!!!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: kizh72

Richard Bach, its been quite a while since I read that. Memory has faded.

Masakali , in the context of the movie, wasn't the song about a girl who wanted to spread her wings and fly, soar. But her wings are clipped by family, convention, norm, the usual...
Ha, that first fall into his arms. Was watching 22 & 23 yesterday (after reading your takes for the umpteenth time, of course). That brooding stance in the office and La comes and says how bad her photos look. But in his mind he sees otherwise. La makes a move (😡 found it difficult to watch) and he, did he want to remove the image of the girl from his head? And the anger when she comes in, felt so bad for that nave young girl. That look of remorse on his face when she leaves, was it one of the first times when her tears affect him?
You mentioned a song from rock star in an earlier post. Couple of lines from another song from that movie has stayed with me from the first listen. 'Jo bhi main, kehena chahoon, barbaad karey alfaaz mere'. In the voice of Mohit C of course, the way he says words, its as if he enjoys the feel and texture of them.
This is fun😆!
Can I send you song requests for vms?!!!!
p.s: phroidji wouldn't need to go any where else, or see anyone else, enough egos and alter egos on these threads!!!!!



yes, richard bach was somewhere in the seventies, but the book was smooth and lovely... i bought it again years later.

sleepy as hell... i will do episode 1 tomorrow, aw sorry. am watching it now, so well made.

i think he was horribly attracted to her when he saw her in that red chiffon, hair open, a huge contrast to the cute middle class weird churidar pompom girl that keeps popping up everywhere. yeah, one of the first times the tears did things to him, i guess.

but even that first time, after the ripping of dori... i think he was affected, to the extent that asr would be affected.

but he would have easily walked away fro her then... as eh did. even at the dargah.

it was she who ran after him nad made him listen.

i loved this natural flow of the relationship. a memorable meeting... and really in life, minus catching falling, isn't that how we often meet a stranger who will become so important to us, to use an asr word. but after the meeting the actual setting in of an emotion and that becoming everything happened so convincingly and beautifully. his telling her later, that how after meeting her, the moments he spent with her started to become meaningful, erased the darkness within and one day it was clear all he needed was her. niiice.

jo bhi main... kehna chahoon... beautiful song. wish i were a real vm maker.. but will keep in mind 😃

hyuk hyuk the ego shego thread, id superego present too.



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Posted: 11 years ago
Indi di what you say about the first meeting entirely true.. You can not fail to notice the stillness coming alive in those dark haunted eyes. And she tempting, trembling, hypnotized in his arms. Yet yes he did walk away. He had the restrain and detachment in those initial days. It was she who literally ran after him. Impulsive sanaka, yet feeling everything. This itself was legendary , but IPK managed to make what followed also unforgettable.
How slowly but surely their lives get entwined. How they find out the differences. A la Pride and Prejudice. She is not just some random irritating oversmart gold digging middle class girl. Instead she takes your breadth away in red. Is smart enough to handle everything you throw at her. At her most vulnerable she can lash out as a vicious tigress and yet you want to reach out and touch her. And she is just like you.. an orphan.

And he is not all hard hearted, cold blooded, impenetrable. He can be caring towards his di. He can be extra tender towards an unknown small lost sad baby girl. He somehow makes you feel safe. His eyes linger over you and you feel yourself not revolted , but blushing instead. And when he laughs you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Nothing forced or not probable at all. How beautiful and real this journey of discovering each other was. The fire of anger, clashes of ideologies, mad ajeebness of Khushi and Arnav together, carefree chirpiness and brooding angst. Add rabba ve and all the other musical components, two gorgeous fabulous actors who redefined chemistry and the viewer just had to believe in their love story.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aarwen

Indi di what you say about the first meeting entirely true.. You can not fail to notice the stillness coming alive in those dark haunted eyes. And she tempting, trembling, hypnotized in his arms. Yet yes he did walk away. He had the restrain and detachment in those initial days. It was she who literally ran after him. Impulsive sanaka, yet feeling everything. This itself was legendary , but IPK managed to make what followed also unforgettable.

How slowly but surely their lives get entwined. How they find out the differences. A la Pride and Prejudice. She is not just some random irritating oversmart gold digging middle class girl. Instead she takes your breadth away in red. Is smart enough to handle everything you throw at her. At her most vulnerable she can lash out as a vicious tigress and yet you want to reach out and touch her. And she is just like you.. an orphan.

And he is not all hard hearted, cold blooded, impenetrable. He can be caring towards his di. He can be extra tender towards an unknown small lost sad baby girl. He somehow makes you feel safe. His eyes linger over you and you feel yourself not revolted , but blushing instead. And when he laughs you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Nothing forced or not probable at all. How beautiful and real this journey of discovering each other was. The fire of anger, clashes of ideologies, mad ajeebness of Khushi and Arnav together, carefree chirpiness and brooding angst. Add rabba ve and all the other musical components, two gorgeous fabulous actors who redefined chemistry and the viewer just had to believe in their love story.

Rhea, how beautifully you encapsulated the whole thing. Yes, he was detached in the beginning. Too much else happening I guess, with the return to Sheesh mahal, the meeting with chachaji...must have shaken his moorings a bit. And she, got her moorings shaken too, from a safe predictable state of being, suddenly being blamed for her sis's wedding being called off, a meeting with a stranger, unlike any and who behaved unlike any you have met in your life. Their journey indeed was a delight to watch. I discovered the show in may last year, quite accidentally. Had a marathon binge watching session. It was around episode 100, when that hospital hug happens that I felt this was not your regular stuff. 124, I knew this was special!
Yes, two extremely good looking people and fabulous actors too, but what they had is much beyond that. You don't see this with any two good looking people.
Its your turn to make a vm now! Let me get that song list ready!😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
Kizh.. ye kya keh diya tumne.. already scenes are zooming in full speed in my mind clamouring for a chance of glory in the 5 mins that I am thinking of creating.. and now you will suggest songs.. no stopping me now 😎..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: kizh72

Rhea, how beautifully you encapsulated the whole thing. Yes, he was detached in the beginning. Too much else happening I guess, with the return to Sheesh mahal, the meeting with chachaji...must have shaken his moorings a bit. And she, got her moorings shaken too, from a safe predictable state of being, suddenly being blamed for her sis's wedding being called off, a meeting with a stranger, unlike any and who behaved unlike any you have met in your life.

Their journey indeed was a delight to watch. I discovered the show in may last year, quite accidentally. Had a marathon binge watching session. It was around episode 100, when that hospital hug happens that I felt this was not your regular stuff. 124, I knew this was special!
Yes, two extremely good looking people and fabulous actors too, but what they had is much beyond that. You don't see this with any two good looking people.
Its your turn to make a vm now! Let me get that song list ready!😆



kizh, rhea,

this is why hanging out here is such fun and really kind of meaningful. love your talk. and i need to talk too therefore... a lot. sorry.

i have said it too many times for anyone not to have noticed, i don't watch serials. and honestly, unless the acting appeals, nothing keeps me watching, not even the best of stories or direction or song or anything. same with movies... if the performance works for me, almost anything works. main aisa hi hoon. (gender free me)

if the acting is good i notice i want to hang around and see what's next. i must say, story apart, ipk had two brilliant actors trying to understand their roles and give it all they had. and when i say all... it is really all plus some more.

i did everything i could not to watch ipk. because i already knew how terribly attractive barun sobti was... and i really was not going to let some looker get me hooked on, of all things, a serial. plus the promos had irritated me. all this talk of some smart suave guy. i used think, ya right. i tried everything not to watch, i did not like this power a young tv boy seemed to have over me, er i used to stop and watched a very bad serial just because he used to appear from time to time and look cool in pretty bad clothes and hair. maine kitni koshish ki.

kizh, yours was somewhere after 100, that realisation. i, despite being very much around on 6/6 had not seen it... but my tv used to often be on, just for the h of it... missing india. one night, i saw the girl i had seen once before in a bizarre pompom bedecked tight churidar looking beautiful in red... and that guy who was forever trying to look rich and famous was in a grey jacket and something was happening at the poolside.

i could not look away.

i couldn't believe what had just happened, happened.

i started to look frantically for episodes on youtube... yes in desperation i had punched in the serial's name on google and realised all the epiosdes had been uploaded, they used to be uploaded within half an hour of airing in india.

and so without thinking, because i couldn't, i watched all that was diwali and around it, again and again. then went and found everything else. when i saw him snapping her dori in episode two... i was shocked.

really couldn't believe they had shown that, and this man with angry eyes was the hero... i mean he was at the poolside, so he must be.

i had seen i think one episode cursorily way back... this was the one where shyam is introduced. and i had seen the nasty richie's face too... i was genuinely confused. so she is going to choose between a bad guy and a lovely sweet comforting man. oh how would they tell the story, i had thought then.

when i saw diwali, i didn't care. this was jadoo, nasha, and beyond.

of course it was sensual, heck, sexual, but there was more. something terribly deeply more. i will never be able to forget my state as i saw him approach her almost hypnotised and she equally dazed stepping back... every instinct of hers telling her to run because she knows this will finish her off. yet she wants to stay, can't go... powerless.

and he, not thinking, not thinking at all... just getting pulled along, desire seeping through him, taking over.

then that kiss almost done. the look in their eyes... i have not seen this kind of real acting i don't know in how long. especially desire. so many movies show it. but this pitching of it... connected with my many chakras... 😳

it was perhaps my rabba ve moment with ipk.

i saw everything after that, again and again. if the first and second episodes had power and almost threw me asunder, the third episode and the fourth touched me deep... oh dargah. and of course, when the heroine is upset she makes... jalebi. jalebi??? i laughed my head off and thought, girl after my heart. again, the pitching by sanaya, that scene where she is crying and frying... so tender, so weird, a purity in the sanka. not hamming. rare that is on tv, especially when leading girl has been told her character is cute. sanaya always felt zany, not girly cute... okay later there were problems but not in the first half... ott post marriage i could sit through only because she had already established such an attractive character i did not want to just turn off tv and say forget it.

the build up, while interesting was not breathtaking, though almost every episode there would be something. like in 12, lavanya... and hotwa checking out the girl who is crazy for him. he likes what he sees... oh so male and real.

and with what understanding of script, the medium, and the audience, the la asr thing was handled, remaining convincing... not giving one the creeps at the thought of heartless tycoon and his girl friend with whom he is intimate, very intimate.

loved his fight with his nani and the leaving home thing.

nothing felt put on, too done up. not even anjali's excessive sweetness. this group of actors had some sort of vibe. they were presented as a bit different from what you see usually, but they have tried this before... this time they managed to pull it off brilliantly.

and oh what a relief just because you spoke english, did not mean you were bad. in fact, even anjali spoke english at times and with a polished accent, how natural is that... rich well educated girl... to be trad doesn't mean not to know anything but mother tongue.

the la asr relationship and break up... too good. never seen that almost anywhere. and on indian tv? tacky serial had girl friend living with rich boy friend... huh???... and he is getting attracted to the other girl... but not even once in the middle of all that i am saying eeeks lech...

too well understood the emotions and too honestly potrayed. there was no question of hating anything.

remember when la got drunk? how lovely was that... his handling of it, her contrition... and no lecture about getting drunk, in fact waiting to help her handle it and being wooden because her behaviour has upset others, spoiled his sis's party... and no he didn't mention i think nani at all. irritated me. but it was true to character, at that stage.

the boy was slightly obsessed with di, couldn't read others' feelings.

yet everyone loved him... because they could sense what was in the guy... deep down.
even we could... i loved that. felt a bit bad for la when he tells her other than di, no one is important in his life, though he does think of khushi in the guest house the moment la asks.

yet i can't hate him, because as he said later to her, he was always upfront about what he could and couldn't give. which is why perhaps la understood his state of mind and forgave him later though if you think about it, he behaved like a bit of a jerk. but la knew, he struggled with emotions, she loved him anyway and when she sensed he was keen on someone she understood how much he must be struggling and she not only let him off the hook graciously, she walked away...

how cool was that and real. la's character, oh something terribly lovely in that too. another young woman on a path of self discovery. i adored the fact that though they had her in good girl clothes in no time, she had her la clothes with her as well and meant to give khushi something la as farewell gift. a bit of her ways to thank khushi for teaching her about things that made her gain acceptance, things perhaps she began to enjoy and value... the reason why la was willing to change anything about herself though he had never asked for it was beautiful too... she was really irritated and yet she knew how important di was to him... so she was willing to try. loved the fact she struggeld and raved and slowly something becgan to appeal... the seemingly brassy girl was really tender inside, and responded to love, from khushi, from di, from nani, everyone and yet she remained la.

yeah he did behave insensitively with her when he used her to put a barrier between himself and that reckless helpless cautionless desire he had felt... he said, shadi kar raha hai and held her hand before a room full of people, while burning with desire for another girl.

but yet i couldn't hate him, or anyone else.

to me this was stunning stuff...

i should have felt nafrat at so many points, but all i could sense was the mohabbat and feel it too. ha ha. sorry i went on.

just that every time i wonder, ipk tells me why exactly it is important to me.

there is so much here, such beautiful understanding of life and love... and yes, that acting.

but when the writing weakened and became tv like... i could almost see the actors struggling with it. every once in a way a fight or a foible would elate the heart and pull it in though. so i guess i will just be thrilled with that. i mean the first august fight or the one where he raves at her and walks off, drives wildly in the night and returns, by then she is passive aggressive anger and i will leave... that "aur main?"

aaa.

when the whole drama they did and shut shop unfolded... i was somewhere in the middle of the night at 12 midnight, night upon night, hanging around in sinagpore with that "aur main?" feeling in me.


funny how the audience stopped mattering. just the game became everything. total kidnap of ipk by many shyams.



Edited by indi52 - 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aarwen

Kizh.. ye kya keh diya tumne.. already scenes are zooming in full speed in my mind clamouring for a chance of glory in the 5 mins that I am thinking of creating.. and now you will suggest songs.. no stopping me now 😎..



aap vm making? oh me hyperventilating and walking backward.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Indi Di, you're bang on with all that you said. No you couldn't hate him, there was nothing unclean in his actions, if that makes sense. Yes he didn't do good by la, but she knew the score, and was willing to put up with what he could give. And he was fond of her, just not in love. Episode 23 where she acts all lovey dovey in his office, I felt he wanted to play along, to get the other girl out of his head. Something very basic and human in that I felt. You understood his struggle as you rightly said, like la did. Oh that break up was too good, even I've not seen anything like it. That hospital hug, after he had left her alone on the road. Pulled all my strings! Even I haven't seen desire like the Diwali almost kiss. Left you with acidity and dhak dhak like khoosie bitiya!!! Normally most of such scenes on Indian tv makes me cringe. This you couldn't look away. Sad they lost the plot later on, especially the butchering of khushi's character.

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