8. Aahil Razaa Ibrahim: A Weak Hero?.............10.05..lnk updtd - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Regarding Aahil Raza Ibrahim. I have to say, despite the one issue I had early on, he is a far better hero for me than all of Gul's other heroes. (That is so far. It's early. Chances are good that something will happen for me to take it back and put him in the same category as others.)

His faults are his faults. There is no whitewashing of him, no halo around him. He insults the heroine, yes. But his insults are acknowledged as insults by the show and characters. I could point fingers at every other one and how their treatment of the heroine was brushed over and never given the apt and correct jawaab by the heroine.

So far, Aahil-Sanam is treading a different path than of the other pairings.


Curiously enough...QH is reverse of everything...the heroine slaps the hero...with no real reason actually. 😆Pushing him away would have sufficed...any way...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: subhkisonu

Soup Soup Soup!!! You know I looove you😳. What a post, a much needed one👏. As I said before Aahil is very much different than Gul's past heroes. He is more like Christian Grey😆. He is not a self made man like ASR or Asad. And both of them have no such qualities like sleeping with different women😆 Only the arrogance is there😳. And the dori scene...it's beautiful not in the sense "romantic" but a well thought and well executed scene😛. Aahil's eagerness and a strange connection he was feeling towards Sanam and Sanam's helpless ness and embarrassment was beautifully portrayed by both of the actors, and in that sense it was a beautiful scene👏

And the face to face scene was epic. Loved it.
Most of all I loved your post I loved how you analyzed the two episodes👏.
Love you 😊


Love you too...😳..You have summarised it so beautifully yourself!👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: GitaIyer

He is mean to Sanam all the same, because he believes she crossed a limit, which she did. Slapping is not an acceptable answer to a man holding your hand in defiance.😲..

Word Soup. Exactly my thoughts. When Asad slapped Zoya, it created a furore. But when Sanam slapped Ahil, nobody found it amiss. All are partial to Asad's duaghter is all I can say.

And then the dori scene, well I was surprised when terms like "molestation' and "undressing" were used in context of that scene. All that Sanam had to do was turn back and say she was not Daisy. But then she had her reason for not doing so. So, Ahil can't be blamed.

Ahil is no Asad and doesn't pretend to be anything. Ahil is guild-ridden, his guilt makes him weak, and he knows that he is weak and tries to hide his weakness in Wine, Women and work.

And yes he is a flawed character. Who likes perfect characters anyways. Zoya was a flawed character, Ayaan to was one. And that's what made them so lovable.
Waiting for Ahil backstory to be revealed to put things in perspective.

Lovely post Soup. Had wanted to make a post on Ahil, but got busy in the weekend. But you and Amber have presented a much needed insight and outsight into Ahil.


Thanx, Gita...😳

@red: Throw me out of the forum...I can defend Asad in that particular situation...it was temper flaring up...and so much at stake...Sanam had no valid reason actually......other than being terribly immature!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lastdesire

I totally agree wiz ur post...duno abt asad as I neva watchd qh1...but arnav...for sure dey r as diff as chalk n cheese..arnav was burdened by responsibilities at a young age...thrown out of sheeshmahal betrayed by his uncle...he was an orphan and had a sis 2 take care of...fiercely posesssiv abt his sis...he wasnt gud wiz words n neva came outa his shell n opened up 2 anjali even...whereas ahil has da luxury 2 play video games n laze around lyk u said lol...he has a bestie rehan whoz at his beck n call...hes not a weak hero hes a human...one cn relate 2 him easily...and I love him 4 wt he is


Very surprised that You are an IPK watcher who missed QH 1 and came on to QH 2...😊

Yes Aahil is more relatable to! Had enough of super heroes and farishtay!😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vm17

Sanam was right.Ahil has material riches but is poor in terms of upbringing.what can you expect of a person raised by billi?Ahil is eccentric and confused.He has double standards.He loves to see his gf's in less of clothes but objects to shazia's top.He blindly follows billi's orders .Asad respected his mom but did'nt follow her when he was'nt convinced.Ahil is not able to see through khala and khalu who are bleedind him dry.He is not intelligent.It is strange thet a person who cracks deals worth crores is not able to read people.Ahil thinks money is the answer to everything.He throws money left,right and centre.He sense of right and wrong seem strange.He gifts a truck to a stranger but has no hesitation in burning a poor girl's source of livelihod.It is bcoz of his upbringing.He had an abusive dad and a mom whois using him.He does'nt respect women except his mother.He is arrogant and thinks he's right.He roars but becomes a bheegi billi in front of tanveer


VM,

Aahil knows Khaala n Khaalu well, I feel..He beras with them patiently as they are Ammi's relations...he is not going to disrespect Ammi jan by showing them their place! I think Aahil has given up on himself as a person! He truly believes he is a shaitaan...and so he has no qualms following what his heart tells him to do!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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there is no comparison between rashid, asad, arnav with aahil. in all essence they are all together different characters. aahil is not weak like rashid. aahil does not let his inner demons affect people around him and he does not hide what he is like rashid. rashid was weak because to hide his crime (i know he was not guilty but he thought so), he left his wife and children who were his responsibility. he left them for a another woman so that he wont go to jail. he didnt have the courage to stand for his own actions. asad on the other hand had a loving mother despite of such weak father so he atleast had an anchor in his life. hence he became strong coz of his love for his family and his hard life without a father.
arnav was a strong character because despite of no parents he and his sisters were parents to each other and protected each other. he had an anchor in his sister as well as other family members. he did not make his parents' death his weakness and cry all the time abt it. he made his angst his strength but only after khushi came in his life, he was able to move on from his past and that was pretty clear when he married her. that particular moment showed how stronger he became because of khushi's love

aahil is whole new character. he is an abuse victim. show me a single gul's hero who has ever had that type of past. abuse victims when not treated or cared for, usually either become bitter towards life or they are just unable to handle life and have suicidal tendencies. aahil has former. now i m sure billi used him too to gain the property and manipulated him for her own gain. aahil was a kid and it is easy to put something in a kid's mind and let that thought to grow and become permanent. i m pretty sure billi did something like that under the pretense of saving him. he was kid for god's sake so taking responsibility is out of the window and who knows what billi told him to stop him from confessing. even from inside the jail billi is manipulating him and controlling him. it is not easy to grow up after such abuse and a manipulative mother.no character of gul has ever had that type of past where a father beats the hell out of a son and mother manipulates her son. infact aahil turned out much better that what usually happens in these type of cases.

so i consider him strong coz he does not hide his flaws and despite of everything, he still has the ability to love (he loves billi to no extent). he surrounds himself with those girls because he does not believe in love (courtesy his dad). his sisters are his life and he does not shy away from his beliefs just coz society says no to them. he has double standards about tehzeeb when it comes to his sisters and other women and he show it openly. he is a man of extremes.either will destroy someone (sanam) or help someone completely (dilshaad). his repressed guilt and anger needs a direction and that is what a strong girl like sanam can give him. falling in billi's trap does not make him weak. everone in QH at some point has fallen in her trap. that just makes him a better son who truly trusts and loves his mother (despite that she does not deserve it). it will be heartbreaking to watch his fall apart the day he comes to know the truth of billi. he follows billi blindly coz there is no one else in his life he can trust or turn to and in his eyes billi sacrificed her life by going to jail for him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: john909

there is no comparison between rashid, asad, arnav with aahil. in all essence they are all together different characters. aahil is not weak like rashid. aahil does not let his inner demons affect people around him and he does not hide what he is like rashid. rashid was weak because to hide his crime (i know he was not guilty but he thought so), he left his wife and children who were his responsibility. he left them for a another woman so that he wont go to jail. he didnt have the courage to stand for his own actions. asad on the other hand had a loving mother despite of such weak father so he atleast had an anchor in his life. hence he became strong coz of his love for his family and his hard life without a father.

arnav was a strong character because despite of no parents he and his sisters were parents to each other and protected each other. he had an anchor in his sister as well as other family members. he did not make his parents' death his weakness and cry all the time abt it. he made his angst his strength but only after khushi came in his life, he was able to move on from his past and that was pretty clear when he married her. that particular moment showed how stronger he became because of khushi's love

aahil is whole new character. he is an abuse victim. show me a single gul's hero who has ever had that type of past. abuse victims when not treated or cared for, usually either become bitter towards life or they are just unable to handle life and have suicidal tendencies. aahil has former. now i m sure billi used him too to gain the property and manipulated him for her own gain. aahil was a kid and it is easy to put something in a kid's mind and let that thought to grow and become permanent. i m pretty sure billi did something like that under the pretense of saving him. he was kid for god's sake so taking responsibility is out of the window and who knows what billi told him to stop him from confessing. even from inside the jail billi is manipulating him and controlling him. it is not easy to grow up after such abuse and a manipulative mother.no character of gul has ever had that type of past where a father beats the hell out of a son and mother manipulates her son. infact aahil turned out much better that what usually happens in these type of cases.

so i consider him strong coz he does not hide his flaws and despite of everything, he still has the ability to love (he loves billi to no extent). he surrounds himself with those girls because he does not believe in love (courtesy his dad). his sisters are his life and he does not shy away from his beliefs just coz society says no to them. he has double standards about tehzeeb when it comes to his sisters and other women and he show it openly. he is a man of extremes.either will destroy someone (sanam) or help someone completely (dilshaad). his repressed guilt and anger needs a direction and that is what a strong girl like sanam can give him. falling in billi's trap does not make him weak. everone in QH at some point has fallen in her trap. that just makes him a better son who truly trusts and loves his mother (despite that she does not deserve it). it will be heartbreaking to watch his fall apart the day he comes to know the truth of billi. he follows billi blindly coz there is no one else in his life he can trust or turn to and in his eyes billi sacrificed her life by going to jail for him.


Precisely why I find him more relatable to than any of the larger than life heroes Gul has created!😳 I find him honest, unapolegetic, kind and confused...😊...BUt I do find him weak in that he would allow someone else take the blame...he is not a kid any more...can he ever find peace knowing/ thinking he has committed a grave crime for which he let someone else take blame...he tries to find solace in women and wine...it is a kind of escapism, I feel.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


Precisely why I find him more relatable to than any of the larger than life heroes Gul has created!😳 I find him honest, unapologetic, kind and confused...😊...BUt I do find him weak in that he would allow someone else take the blame...he is not a kid any more...can he ever find peace knowing/ thinking he has committed a grave crime for which he let someone else take blame...he tries to find solace in women and wine...it is a kind of escapism, I feel.


ya i find him not larger than life and that is why i find him strong because despite of his past which we as viewers can related coz it can happen to anyone in reality, he still has not fallen apart and lost control over his own life. i know he unintentionally hurts others mostly sanam but i dont think he could ever let is mother go to jail for his crime. he loves her too much. i m sure billi has said or done something to manipulate him like she is manipulating him now. he was a kid when the crime happened so cannot expect him to understand imp of responsibility and consequences but knowing billi m sure she has manipulated this situation to her gain in long run. his guilt is for not bearing the consequences of his crime and coz his mother is bearing the consequences. hence he drowning himself in women and wine. you are right it i escapism but i still dont think he is not accepting his crime coz he does not want to go to jail. so for that i m waiting for full backstory. moreover if gul is in the mood to show a logical story which sits right with aahil's character, i wont expect her to show aahil guilt ridden coz he let his mother take the fall willingly. that does not sit right with how aahil's current behavior with billi. if billi can kill and burn down a house for her ego, i dont think it is a too much of a stretch to accept that billi can kill her new husband and manipulate a little kid.

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