@beebutterfly if someone has replied ...you cannot expect me to go away without answering ...and because you agree to that member and leave this issue I didn't invite thiku to reply to me but since he/she did and infact even raised a question on my behavior ..and you all have your side parties to defend you I don't have anyone to defend me .so I 'll have to do it myself ...so this is my last post in here no mood of destroying your thread so next if any issues with me pm me
@Thiku....certainly i don't mind criticism at all..if you feel something odd in what i have written feel free to tell me ...first let me clear you one thing i am not an 80 year old granny😆 i am 28 but certainly much mature than most of you here ..i can sense that from your writings most of you are either teens or in your early 20s...and i am extremely happy at the respect you have given me..thank you so much and i will surely answer all your issues in here but please keep it to last one if you want some other answers pm me since i really don't want to ruin this thread ..and get cursed
@Thiku this is for you
@first what i have said to Anu...thats her name. nice ...have you read her reply to me ?where in my first post have i said anything to her ?in fact many times sorry pardon me ..right...but how she started her reply
Wow, why am I not surprised to see a newbie finding my work offending? 😆
now what you call it a polite way...not a slap..no issue with Anu since she has apologised to me and i to her but since you have raised this issue again? so let me know how will you respond to it ..? i have cleared her confusion that don't take it like this but since you felt it bad on your part and defending your friend do let me know as an unbiased person someone who can see from all sides will you be one for a short while what you take her behavior from her post? and how will you respond to it ...?and what it has to do with our age does she has any special right to behave as she like while I should be polite ..adults can strictly tell young too that you cannot speak to me like this and this not called rudeness
@second issue...why don't we let our youngsters to have this idea of this stuff...woman harasment i am extremely confused at what you are trying to say in here ..are you all providing awareness against woman harasment through this FF...? NO..so why are you taking it into that direction...?awareness against harasment and rape etc is necessary but why presenting sex as something enjoyable so that youth will get a negative impact from this ..why parents and adults usually stop children from reading and seeing such stuff though behind their back they see it do it ...parents intention is that their children won't copy it and get their lives ruined at early age ..Media always have more impact even more than parents advises ..even media is following a double policy right? now they add ratings to such stuff 15 , 18, PG parental guidance is advised but won't control their showing ..result we are seeing teenage girls giving birth to children and not all victim of rape sorry to say'impact of reading and seeing such stuff and destroying their lives ...and certainly all the things you all are writing in here your parents taught you this is impossible you all have gained this knowledge yourself from seeing and reading .from films .. tv ( though i appreciate our tv for this they never cross their limits leaving some serials..serials like Phulwa were beautiful ..family serials ..no issues with that)
@vulgar posters and all other stuff...how are you so sure no one stops them or feel proud of them...people criticize them too..but the reason they all give answer much like you all putting blame on one another vulgar posters to vulgar films ..vulgar films to vulgar writing..all on one another no one ready to accept yes we are wrong in here we need a change..they all have their explanaition resulting in the issue as it is no change
@writings ...i know quite well what stuff is being written or shown now a days and i don't approve that at all...no one will...and they are being criticized too..but the thing if someone is doing wrong do we need to follow him as well.?.if something is in fashion do we need to do that too?if our parents have taught us this thing is not good at this age you should stay in your limits yes we will follow their advise won't do it but will see or read or write it ? isn't it double policy for you?if you cannot do it for yourself openly why writing it for others openly or promoting it openly..?and all the writing you are talking about with such stuff tell me how many of them have received status of all time classic literature ?still years old writings are considered as beauty of art and most of them don't carry such stuff
@Beauty of art...i know what is beauty of art my dear...literature is my field ...and one thing i might tell you this stuff is not beauty of art.. just as some painters say a nude woman or male picture is beauty of art do you agree with it ?simlary it cannot be?showing physical intimacy to this limit where it becomes too much and depicting it like this ..focussing so much on this ..sorry to say two FF's I have read in here and both followed it the focus on physical pull..it becomes too much and somehow some others people like me will call it vulgarity'.imagining phulwa without clothes character is fictional but actor is for real so what we imagine in here ..don't you think it will be degradation of actress as well..This what other world you are talking about where it will take us ..?Physical intimacy in love who told you its beauty of art'? I never come across this'.do let me know which critic whom world appreciate not modern writers or critics because seriously no one follow them they are never called as great writers 'said this I really want to know and I have read all great writings of Hindi , Urdu , English ..really am desperate to know which greats have called physical intimacy as beauty of art'.beauty of art or love doesn't come with these things ..at least what I know if there is anything not in my knowledge do let me know
@Fan fictions 'I can understand now a days fan fictions only depict these things their major focus is this you all are not new in here there are whole sites dedicated to these and much more than what you write in here ..the demand of these things have really increased a lot among young people what they can't see they write but the funny thing they always write it under disguise on line in real life ask a student to write a story even love story it will be really nice neat and clean because feel shy to present it openly but don't shy away writing it openly on public forum because feel no one can see them here ..i bet the thing you are calling beauty of art in here will you read this beauty of art openly in front of your teachers or class mates or even parents openly this is what we are writing or reading?
@Indian culture..shyness has always been part of our culture if now it is somehow crossing limits its bad luck of us because we were never like this '
@writer of this FF'.did I say anything wrong to her or she is not a good writer ..she can be fantastic writer ..her way of expression choice of words is superb'I already said it but the thing I felt odd in story i said it ..i am not her enemy her well wisher ..literature is my field how I can stop any one from writing but certainly say write in some limits that's it '.if I had any problem with her instead of writing in here I could have easily written to mod and get her stopped but did I do it no'I asked her she could have said ok I will take it into consideration she took it to another direction and I have to reply it too,'.and so on..you people might think here we are under disguise no one knows us like beebutterfly has said we are not here to create image ..dear you don't create image every where but where you go on public place your image is automatically created why give anyone a chance to have a negative image about you'here entertaining few and but making many think bad why? Whoever new comer comes here if takes a bad image from here why not give good image to all'this is what I wanted to say rest its up to you how you take it ..and i am saying to all not to her only even the second one as well ...
I will conclude all this by saying I only said what I felt is right and I will do it no regrets on it changing or not changing your opinion its up to you how you take it others can only show you a path and one more thing they all don't show you always wrong path many right ibut following it or not is only up to you..and no apologies on it but I certainly didn't want to hurt anyone if any one is offended with my views extremely sorry for it ..i guess I got answers for my all previous and believe me none I got was answer to my question but diverting only it means answer was difficult'so if anyone wants to give answer to my questions now pm me 'any more issues do it ..and bye bye from here..have fun as you wish..what I felt my job I did it '.
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