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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Okay. So I made the account comment because a similar incident had happened before so that why that comment about being 'amused'. Sorry about that a little misunderstanding.

Like I said their relationship had just started, they are a married couple, its been just a few months since they have accepted their relationship so physical intimacy will be there at this point. I understand that you are trying to say that there is too much of it. Fine, I get it. Will try to incorporate other things as well.

@SR- okay this is a fictional couple, we cannot compare real life things like this with fiction. And moreover, not just this show but many other forums also discuss this topic. It's not like I'm the only one discussing it or making topics on it out here. Since it's a show, a fictional couple who is married so the topic of SR is bound to come up.

As for criticism and writing, honestly I'm no writer it's just a hobby for me and whatever you said I did take it in a healthy way.

I am off- I never said that! I said I'll be ending my FF but I was going to that way anyway, I didn't say it because of your post.

Honestly I don't understand why you are so angry on me. You didn't like my FF I understand I said I'm sorry and I meant it. I really don't know what I did to make you angry on me. I apologize again for sounding rude in my earlier post; please I wasn't trying to be neither now and when I said I'm sorry I really mean it.

As for the chat, that's between me and my friends. I would really appreciate if you don't bring that here because it has nothing to do with the FF. And creating impact'I mean we are not here to create any impact. It's a discussion forum and since the show has finished so yes we were just chatting away randomly but we never had any intention to offend anyone. That was all for fun.

Please if you have any personal problem with me we can sort it out through PMs. Even I don't like fighting or anything and would like the peace to be maintained. Again, I am SORRY and I don't want to anyone to leave from here because of me. Really, don't know what else to say.

Edited by Ameres - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#72
sorry now that fictional couple comment amused me to write😆darling place yourself in position of what you write then write if you feel you cant write it for yourself then why write it for even a something fictional..and i believe the characters may be fictional but actors are for real..won't we all imagine them in your writing is it your own created characters ..no so .and i am not stopping you to write what i mean is don't write it to the limit you wrote where to read it feel sharm ..don;t you want all people to read your stuff and sorry i got angry because of your comment on me because it made me angry...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Anu...baby i am proud of u...i love the way u write and i loved the way u kind of explained yourself here ...even though it was nt required...bt gt your chin up ...u r nt WRONG...people love u they wait fr your writing and yes...most imp your writing brings a BIG SMILE on my face😊...so cont writing😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Salma.f - I think you have the wrong impression on us really. We are just people who happened to love the fictional couple in Phulwa. Frankly, on every other forums there are SSes like these. It's meant for fun, nothing more. Our show ended so abruptly that we never got the chance to see half of what we wanted...Truly this forum is a way to share our thoughts and we have no intention of hurting anyone. If that is the case then im sorry too because i happen to use my imagination to write on AP and sometimes write such scenes. It's not meant to offend really. We are just so close to each other on this forum that we sometimes forget there may be silent readers. But @Ameres SS, talking about children. I doubt children under 15 roam this forum really and believe me the kind of books they read nowadays if way more explicit than this.
I think the discussion just degenerated so it's nt an attempt to fight again on my part.😊
@Besharambacche- I'm sure you must have seen the way we talk if you happen to know about it. It's purely out of fun. Nothing more. I'm sure you have friends and when you start talking with them, you get in a certain pattern because they happen to know you and you happen to know them well enough to understand each other. We guys are all over the world and the only thing that allows us to talk and bond over is our AT. I really hope you can understand this and forgive us for any words that might have been said and which sounded offending.
We always talk lightly and among ourselves, as you might have noticed. No wish to make besharam bacche sound in fashion.

hoping you don't run away from this forum because of us. Ameres is just an amazing gal really that I would hate for anyone to think badly of her. Please do not get the wrong impression on her. LOL, writers are usually mad people so bear with us😉 I'm pretty mad too so do not hesitate to bash me up if you see something simliar in my SS.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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well i am really not running away neither i said anything to writer .or use bashing comments why will i bash anyone .i know what kind stuff children..read .today ...that is wrong too and what we show in our hindi films now a days ... i won't call it right too no doubt even right now we see teenage girls and boys doing such stuff openly too and then we cry o bache bigade gaye ..😆can't allow our youngster to even see such things ...secondly 15 i guess 18 is correct age where even a person can properly date too...15 is a young age and person is a kid...you won;t allow your 15 year ole child or younger siblings to read such stuff or see it ...will you?...😆i am not talking 5 year old baby here who will come to this forum.. ...call me boring but seriously i can see how much we are following western civilisation...and where such things have become a proud thing to show openly write openly in the name of freedom and now the mess up in which society has gone through then crying o see this happening ...moreover i didn't stop anyone from writing ...i am a professional writer too...probably you are youth with writing as your hobby i am professional writer on newspapers .well i am not a kid but you all seem to me extremely young people ..thats why not understanding my POV...😆i didn't stop you from not writing what i said don't write to this limit ok a kiss fine then come to next we got it they are having their day...was it necessary to go into every detail...blouse removing ...this and that...in my opinion writing should be where message is clear ..but to the limit where other person enjoy reading not feel some shame..( i am not using shame in that sense but sharm...don't feel like its besharmpan can't read it more .) i always believed there should be some limits to what we write..write happy moments of Abhay Phulwa .i will contribute too and help you write well too.if you will allow me to shine your writing skills .because you all are talented people i can see that ...i am not stopping you why you are writing ...or with my even saying this you all will stop no...😆you have every right for your freedom of expression all i was saying write in some limits where everyone can read your post and have fun with you ..but if you really want to have it for you only fine ..keep it up but just a friendly question do make your adults read all this ? one day try then you will get your answer how they will approve your this writing ...?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Salma: you seems to be elder than any one of us here. We respect your thoughts and POVs, and your last question is Will us allow our elders? definitely that question struck in my mind, well before answering that, can I ask you something? I am not defending any one of us here and not talking against you, as I said I know the Indian culture and I know its value and respect it, never wanted to live against it. So respect UR elders is the best culture we have, what u said is write we are following western culture a lot but what my question is does Indian writers never wrote these sorts of stuff? does we never read these? We have a proud full literature culture and our literature also contains these sorts of things.

What is the problem if our youngsters get an idea abt this, even 2 year old kids were attacking here, every day hundreds of cases were reporting here on women harassment. Many kids are becoming its pray without knowing what is going on with them, mostly by there own people, and by the time they came to know, it already creat its bad impact on them mentally, so we are living in a world were we should give our young daughter a knowledge abt sexual harassment to prevent her frm it. Do u felt what I am telling is wrong? You know what abv our society everything is fine, everyone is good no one even look into some vulgar posters but under this beautiful layer there is some thing which make us shiver out of fear. I am not here to criticize the society, sorry if anybody found it offensive.


Yes I would say there is a limit, I agree but these girls are not writing anything abv the limit. Just look at the way they wrote, it is fabulous, the words they use the way they express, Salma its an art, a story why we get bother abt something else, why we wanted to see it in another eye, we just wanted to read it enjoy the art behind it, and appreciate the effort that person took to give it to us with out feeling any kind of awkwardness fr us. I swear I have read a lot in my life in different languages, western, Indian, Pakisthan, Jappanese lot, the way these girls express thing its simply the best way.


I am coming frm an area where even the date is not a common thing, I have never gone fr a date and never wanted also, my first date will be with my husband and my first love will be him. So by reading anything like this or seeing anything lke this cannot make our children wrong, you know why I am like this because of my parents, they showed me the world of books when I was in first std , and ask me to find the world with them, frm that day onwards I read what all I wanted to they never restricted, So when I was born up I know the world, by then i know myself where I have to restrict me, what are my limits. they never try to make me away frm any of these thing but they discussed it with me. Did I go wrong? I could say a big no.


I am not sure whether u people get angry with my words but I felt have to share the things, sorry fr this, But salma I appreciate u fr your kindness, many will be there who has the same POvs like you and just blame all here by reading all these and went away, but you showed the kindness of coming out and advice us, we will always be thankful to you and I am sure everyone here will always give importance to what u said, all are good here... pls dont go away frm here... we all need an elder hands over us...

"well your post didn't make me my account better get this confusion out of your mind first.. because i made my account today to post my comments on uttaran forum..there i made my post first so i don't know which thing you are so amused at first...😕it will be better to get to know about others and then get amused you made account today for my post ."

I dont know whether I wanted to make this sort of a comment here, I left here after posting my comments but this perticular sentence of URs dragged me back, since u accept criticisms I would like to say this sentence was really a bad mark on your age and maturity, I am telling this with all the respect I have but upon God this sentence make me really sad... I felt like ur slapping on me when I read it so what abt Anu... This can be avoidable, agree u may be angry but still... and again telling sorry if I hurt you and would say a thousand times also but I felt I have to tell this to you since I am 100% sure that I am right on my stands when I am telling this and Anu does deserves a defense like this on this statement,Since she is a good writer.
Edited by thiku - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Athira- Agree😉

Now salma.f, myself and everybody, i think we should just end it here. Everyone has their own POVs and i think we all pretty much voiced them out already😆

This is an FF post, criticism done,. accepted and page turned.😊 Now let's leave the other spaces for the FF😉

Anu! Just searching for some words in the dictionary:
Amazing, Fabulous, Great, Golden.
Guess what they all had in common?
Well, your photo as illustration.

LOL, it's a pretty expensive dictionary so I guess not everyone can afford it😆 I'm so lucky really🤗

And oh there's a phrase which applies here.
Laisse lichien zapper😉

Ok guys, so the next post reserved for Anu's FF😊
Edited by beebutterfly - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@beebutterfly if someone has replied ...you cannot expect me to go away without answering ...and because you agree to that member and leave this issue I didn't invite thiku to reply to me but since he/she did and infact even raised a question on my behavior ..and you all have your side parties to defend you I don't have anyone to defend me .so I 'll have to do it myself ...so this is my last post in here no mood of destroying your thread so next if any issues with me pm me

@Thiku....certainly i don't mind criticism at all..if you feel something odd in what i have written feel free to tell me ...first let me clear you one thing i am not an 80 year old granny😆 i am 28 but certainly much mature than most of you here ..i can sense that from your writings most of you are either teens or in your early 20s...and i am extremely happy at the respect you have given me..thank you so much and i will surely answer all your issues in here but please keep it to last one if you want some other answers pm me since i really don't want to ruin this thread ..and get cursed

@Thiku this is for you

@first what i have said to Anu...thats her name. nice ...have you read her reply to me ?where in my first post have i said anything to her ?in fact many times sorry pardon me ..right...but how she started her reply

Wow, why am I not surprised to see a newbie finding my work offending? 😆

now what you call it a polite way...not a slap..no issue with Anu since she has apologised to me and i to her but since you have raised this issue again? so let me know how will you respond to it ..? i have cleared her confusion that don't take it like this but since you felt it bad on your part and defending your friend do let me know as an unbiased person someone who can see from all sides will you be one for a short while what you take her behavior from her post? and how will you respond to it ...?and what it has to do with our age does she has any special right to behave as she like while I should be polite ..adults can strictly tell young too that you cannot speak to me like this and this not called rudeness

@second issue...why don't we let our youngsters to have this idea of this stuff...woman harasment i am extremely confused at what you are trying to say in here ..are you all providing awareness against woman harasment through this FF...? NO..so why are you taking it into that direction...?awareness against harasment and rape etc is necessary but why presenting sex as something enjoyable so that youth will get a negative impact from this ..why parents and adults usually stop children from reading and seeing such stuff though behind their back they see it do it ...parents intention is that their children won't copy it and get their lives ruined at early age ..Media always have more impact even more than parents advises ..even media is following a double policy right? now they add ratings to such stuff 15 , 18, PG parental guidance is advised but won't control their showing ..result we are seeing teenage girls giving birth to children and not all victim of rape sorry to say'impact of reading and seeing such stuff and destroying their lives ...and certainly all the things you all are writing in here your parents taught you this is impossible you all have gained this knowledge yourself from seeing and reading .from films .. tv ( though i appreciate our tv for this they never cross their limits leaving some serials..serials like Phulwa were beautiful ..family serials ..no issues with that)

@vulgar posters and all other stuff...how are you so sure no one stops them or feel proud of them...people criticize them too..but the reason they all give answer much like you all putting blame on one another vulgar posters to vulgar films ..vulgar films to vulgar writing..all on one another no one ready to accept yes we are wrong in here we need a change..they all have their explanaition resulting in the issue as it is no change

@writings ...i know quite well what stuff is being written or shown now a days and i don't approve that at all...no one will...and they are being criticized too..but the thing if someone is doing wrong do we need to follow him as well.?.if something is in fashion do we need to do that too?if our parents have taught us this thing is not good at this age you should stay in your limits yes we will follow their advise won't do it but will see or read or write it ? isn't it double policy for you?if you cannot do it for yourself openly why writing it for others openly or promoting it openly..?and all the writing you are talking about with such stuff tell me how many of them have received status of all time classic literature ?still years old writings are considered as beauty of art and most of them don't carry such stuff

@Beauty of art...i know what is beauty of art my dear...literature is my field ...and one thing i might tell you this stuff is not beauty of art.. just as some painters say a nude woman or male picture is beauty of art do you agree with it ?simlary it cannot be?showing physical intimacy to this limit where it becomes too much and depicting it like this ..focussing so much on this ..sorry to say two FF's I have read in here and both followed it the focus on physical pull..it becomes too much and somehow some others people like me will call it vulgarity'.imagining phulwa without clothes character is fictional but actor is for real so what we imagine in here ..don't you think it will be degradation of actress as well..This what other world you are talking about where it will take us ..?Physical intimacy in love who told you its beauty of art'? I never come across this'.do let me know which critic whom world appreciate not modern writers or critics because seriously no one follow them they are never called as great writers 'said this I really want to know and I have read all great writings of Hindi , Urdu , English ..really am desperate to know which greats have called physical intimacy as beauty of art'.beauty of art or love doesn't come with these things ..at least what I know if there is anything not in my knowledge do let me know

@Fan fictions 'I can understand now a days fan fictions only depict these things their major focus is this you all are not new in here there are whole sites dedicated to these and much more than what you write in here ..the demand of these things have really increased a lot among young people what they can't see they write but the funny thing they always write it under disguise on line in real life ask a student to write a story even love story it will be really nice neat and clean because feel shy to present it openly but don't shy away writing it openly on public forum because feel no one can see them here ..i bet the thing you are calling beauty of art in here will you read this beauty of art openly in front of your teachers or class mates or even parents openly this is what we are writing or reading?

@Indian culture..shyness has always been part of our culture if now it is somehow crossing limits its bad luck of us because we were never like this '

@writer of this FF'.did I say anything wrong to her or she is not a good writer ..she can be fantastic writer ..her way of expression choice of words is superb'I already said it but the thing I felt odd in story i said it ..i am not her enemy her well wisher ..literature is my field how I can stop any one from writing but certainly say write in some limits that's it '.if I had any problem with her instead of writing in here I could have easily written to mod and get her stopped but did I do it no'I asked her she could have said ok I will take it into consideration she took it to another direction and I have to reply it too,'.and so on..you people might think here we are under disguise no one knows us like beebutterfly has said we are not here to create image ..dear you don't create image every where but where you go on public place your image is automatically created why give anyone a chance to have a negative image about you'here entertaining few and but making many think bad why? Whoever new comer comes here if takes a bad image from here why not give good image to all'this is what I wanted to say rest its up to you how you take it ..and i am saying to all not to her only even the second one as well ...

I will conclude all this by saying I only said what I felt is right and I will do it no regrets on it changing or not changing your opinion its up to you how you take it others can only show you a path and one more thing they all don't show you always wrong path many right ibut following it or not is only up to you..and no apologies on it but I certainly didn't want to hurt anyone if any one is offended with my views extremely sorry for it ..i guess I got answers for my all previous and believe me none I got was answer to my question but diverting only it means answer was difficult'so if anyone wants to give answer to my questions now pm me 'any more issues do it ..and bye bye from here..have fun as you wish..what I felt my job I did it '.

Edited by salma.f - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Everyone- Thank you for the inputs, I'll take all of it into consideration when I write next. Again, I'm sorry if the content of my post had offended anyone; honestly that was not my intention.

As of now the conversation seems to be steering into another direction so I would request to all to end it here. It's my humble request not to post on that matter further and give me a chance to head towards the conclusion of my FF.

Your cooperation on this matter would be highly appreciated. Thank you.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry to all... my heart full sorry to salma ,anu and all if my words hurts any and ruined Anu's beautiful FF. Sorry Au u said to stop it here but since I felt I have to say a public sorry to Salma since I hurt her...

Sorry Salma fr any sort of bad words frm me...

I can even start a new post fr this but that can again attract public concern... that is why again ruining ur tread Anu...

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