Ovi cannot tell the truth but she can lie for Arjun?W Pg12,18 - Page 4

Originally posted by: MayurSidma

I don't know if this reply was in reference to me, but I will answer anyways.

If her parents can automatically think the worst of her and disown her after hearing just Purvi's version, then I don't think they even deserved an explanation from her. The dad, aaji and sister who were with her for 20 years would think that she'll have an affair with Arjun when he was married to Purvi. If she were to do so, why would she divorce him in the first place? If after knowing her for her whole life and what she had been through, if they thought she would support infidelity then there is really no reason for having such a pathetic family. Plus, she didn't make Arjun live a lonely life. That was his own choice. He could have kept on trying with Purvi or moved on with someone else. She didn't take theka of fixing their love life. It was his marriage, his lie and his problem. She didn't bother confronting any of them because neither did she need to tell the truth to people who had no faith in her, nor was she responsible for ArVi's marriage. She doesn't unnecessarily meddle in people's married lives like Purvi. If Arjun had asked her to tell the family the truth to spare his 20 years, she might even have done it then. The only reason she is helping Arjun is because he asked for it, more so like a last wish kind of favour. She was also convincing him to fess up to Purvi, so is that part totally ignored? Btw she also had tears in her eyes at this part, so are you now going to say her concern wasn't genuine either? If she never wanted him to be happy with Purvi, why try to convince him to tell Purvi the truth and give her happiness that she could cherish for the rest of her life?

More so, she isn't the only one who lied Arjun did so as well. So if Ovi is blamed, he should be blamed even more as this was his plan and his idea to bring in Ovi, begging her to participate. Plus, the lies were spoken for bhalaayi reasons, is that bad now that Ovi has done it? Isn't Purvi hailed for her bhalayi ke intentions for giving Pari up?

But I agree with you on the fact that Ovi shouldn't have participated in this natak. Not to spare Purvi's feelings or allow ArVi to unite but because neither of these two should hold enough importance in her life after everything for her to even recognize them on the street. She should have stayed away to maintain her own sanity and well being.

Originally posted by: bitasta

Ovi came at Arjun's first call to help Arjun and lie to Purvi-- She is a great friend to Arjun.

Ovi says to Arjun-- " Live 2 months of your life to the fullest with her. After all this is what you have always wanted". -- Oh wow! she understands Arjun's need so much.

Ovi decides not to open her mouth about Pia's truth and let Arjun suffer without Purvi for 20 years--- So what ? Amar Premi's married life is not her business. But hadn't she known all along that being with Purvi was what Arjun had always wanted?

She decides to be shunned by her parents by not saying that one truth-- It is Purvi's fault that she had been shunned by Deshmukhs... GREAT.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

I stated pure facts shown in the serial! If you cannot refute the facts then dont just call these facts fanaticism! How abt a clean debate instead?

Did you really? Ok lets see then. Here's your original post:

Btw, I heard arguments from you several times that purvi swapping the babies wasn't wrong because she had noble intentions. You actually said that she was selfless and sacrificing when she did that. That even the courts recognized it. Why then is Ovi selfish according to you? Why is she not mahaan when she's clearly doing it for someone else while constantly advising arjun to do the right thing. Why is she wrong when she's advocating to arjun for purvi's love and her rights to be with him for his remaining time when purvi hasn't once given a thought to her or Pia? I'd really like to know. Please tell me why and I'll try and correct my opinion about blind fanaticism.

P.S. I earlier said I hoped that purvi would not give up this time without investigation and since she's not, I'll give her the credit. She's doing the right thing by not letting the others know and influence her decision, and by trusting that something's not quite right. See? I am not a blind fanatic even though I openly admit disliking her character immensely. I can give credit where its due even though purvi is still being nasty to Ovi who is my fave character in the show. I gave credit to her when she tried her best to stay away from arjun once he got married to Ovi. I gave her credit when she honestly tried working on her marriage with Onir. I gave her credit when she was trying to balance her marriage and her relationship with her family after marrying arjun. I don't pre-judge her for everything simply because I despise her. Maybe you should give it a try and I will change my opinion on fanaticism.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

If Arjun used Ovi, then Ovi also allowed him to use her! Didnt she?

That girl cannot tell ONE truth to get back her own family but she can tell dozens of lies to Purvi to keep her away from Arjun? Great, isnt she?

Kids being out late and lying to parents isnt the same as a husband lying to his wife that hes at a meeting when hes with his ex-wife and their secret child!

You cannot even compare these situations as husband wife trust when its broken can have serious consequences like it had in ArVi's case!

A wife would expect her husband to tell her the truth, especially abt something as serious abt having a baby with his ex-wife! Purvi had every right to be angry at him and leave him! Ovi caused ArVi separation indirectly and also passively with her silence of 20 yrs!

Originally posted by: MayurSidma

I don't know if this reply was in reference to me, but I will answer anyways.

If her parents can automatically think the worst of her and disown her after hearing just Purvi's version, then I don't think they even deserved an explanation from her. The dad, aaji and sister who were with her for 20 years would think that she'll have an affair with Arjun when he was married to Purvi. If she were to do so, why would she divorce him in the first place? If after knowing her for her whole life and what she had been through, if they thought she would support infidelity then there is really no reason for having such a pathetic family. Plus, she didn't make Arjun live a lonely life. That was his own choice. He could have kept on trying with Purvi or moved on with someone else. She didn't take theka of fixing their love life. It was his marriage, his lie and his problem. She didn't bother confronting any of them because neither did she need to tell the truth to people who had no faith in her, nor was she responsible for ArVi's marriage. She doesn't unnecessarily meddle in people's married lives like Purvi.

More so, she isn't the only one who lied Arjun did so as well. So if Ovi is blamed, he should be blamed even more as this was his plan and his idea to bring in Ovi, begging her to participate. Plus, the lies were spoken for bhalaayi reasons, is that bad now that Ovi has done it? Isn't Purvi hailed for her bhalayi ke intentions for giving Pari up?

But I agree with you on the fact that Ovi shouldn't have participated in this natak. Not to spare Purvi's feelings or allow ArVi to unite but because neither of these two should hold enough importance in her life after everything for her to even recognize them on the street. She should have stayed away to maintain her own sanity and well being.

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Pure facts you say. Do you know she didn't try telling the truth to her family? Did they show or say anything to that effect? Show me the proof and I'll accept it. Otherwise, my dear, it's an assumption NOT fact.

Yes, I heard ArMaan clearly say they didnt know where Ovi was...so if she had called, then they would know where she was living, wouldnt they?

I go by what is shown... not by whats not shown! That is called conjecture!

Since they didnt show Ovi calling or Armaan saying that they received calls from Ovi but ignored her...then it means in terms of PR facts that Ovi didnt call her parents even once in 20 yrs!

Ovi is not arjun's babysitter or guardian. She's not the guardian of arjun and purvi's marriage. She's merely (and foolishly, still) his friend. She is not responsible for making arjun happy. She is NOT responsible for making his marriage work. She is ONLY responsible for Pia.

Now FACT time: She does NOT live in India. She is busy living her own life. She does not meddle in arjuns or purvis affairs. She came now because arjun repeatedly begged her that she was the only one who could help him. She refused when he first asked her. She continued telling him he was wrong and that he should tell purvi the truth. She agreed to go with the charade because he begged her to. It is not her secret to tell, and not her marriage to save. Still, as a friend she is helping him as well as giving him good advice. More than what he deserves. Or purvi deserves. Weren't you the one who updated today?

No I didnt update today, I dont update everyday! I watched the episode today and Ovi's token protests that Arjun shd tell Purvi...but then she still went ahead and did the whole drama with great gusto and enjoyment! She could have still refused or not done it with such conviction. 😉

As a friend,she helped Arjun LIE to Purvi again! But as a friend she couldnt tell that one truth which would have made that friend get his happiness all these years?

WHY HELP HIM NOW?

If just one lie made such a big difference, then the relationship wasn't strong to begin with. Ovi told him to lie because as far as she was concerned, Pia was only her daughter. She did not want or expect arjun to be around as Pia's dad. And she knew arjun wanted the same, to go back to his family. She did not force him to lie and she did not know that purvi was in canada, even that arjun was in canada. When she suggested that he could just go back home and not tell anyone anything, he didn't agree. He said he would tell purvi everything. Purvi had lied plenty to him, betrayed him several times over. That ONE lie made all the difference because purvi chose to handle it that way-- she couldn't handle one lie and ruined hers and others lives over it, without listening to his explanations for it.

Yes, any wife would take it that way if she saw her husband with his ex-wife and their newborn secret child and then that husband lies to her abt it...and then if that wife has a miscarriage from the shock of her husband's deceit, cheating and lies...then any wife would leave her husband!

Ovi did, didnt she leave Arjun because of Pari? Arjun went to bring her back from Canada but she refused.

Love and marriage is based on TRUST! Once trust is broken its very hard to TRUST again!

True dat! Lying is wrong but unfortunately highly rampant. The whole show and every character is based on lies.

Even if Arjun cannot bear to tell Purvi abt his illness, then Ovi shd not have helped him LIE to Purvi either!

She shd have remained neutral and silent and let Purvi make her own judgements abt the situation.

Yeah she should have stayed out.

But she seemed to be enjoying herself watching Purvi cry as she reiterated that she had been living with Arjun as his wife for last 20 yrs! She quite gleefully supported Arjun's disgusting lie that he had been using Purvi to get Ovi back in his life! 🤢

Won't even bother with a response. If she was gleeful though, good for her! She should have been nasty to purvi. Purvi deserves nothing less.

Ovi has deserved lots of nastiness before, but Purvi was never mean to her! Ovi yelled at her, insulted her, threw her out of the house when she was pregnant with Pari...Purvi didnt protest. But still Ovi is supposed to be wonderful! 😆

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Exactly!👏

All this time, Purvi was being blamed for Ovi being shunned by her parents! But now Ovi is risking even greater censure from her parents by proving their 20 yrs of distrust right! But she doesnt care abt her parents!

She cares only abt Arjun, doesnt give a hoot for her parents obviously! She takes a superfast flight at his request and puts up a whole charade, tells so many cruel lies to Purvi...all at his request!

Yet she couldnt tell that all important truth for 20 yrs, which would give him his happiness, Purvi!

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Btw, I heard arguments from you several times that purvi swapping the babies wasn't wrong because she had noble intentions. You actually said that she was selfless and sacrificing when she did that. That even the courts recognized it. Why then is Ovi selfish according to you? Why is she not mahaan when she's clearly doing it for someone else while constantly advising arjun to do the right thing. Why is she wrong when she's advocating to arjun for purvi's love and her rights to be with him for his remaining time when purvi hasn't once given a thought to her or Pia? I'd really like to know. Please tell me why and I'll try and correct my opinion about blind fanaticism.

Because u cannot say Blind Fanaticism, least of all when you all bashed Purvi ALL THE TIME and put the vampish Ovi on a pedestal, even when she was doing the worst things like drinking in pregnancy, behaving horribly etc. So who is the blind FAN here?

At least I had criticized Purvi bitterly when she swapped the baby ...as the stupidest and most wrong thing to do! Though her intentions were still good! 😉

Originally posted by: pallavi25

If Arjun used Ovi, then Ovi also allowed hi to use her! Didnt she

That girl cannot tell ONE truth to get back her own family but she can tell dozens of lies to Purvi to keep her away from Arjun? Great, isnt she?

Kids being out late and lying to parents isnt the same as a husband lying to his wife that hes at a meeting when hes with his ex-wife and their secret child!

You cannot even compare these situations as husband wife trust when its broken can have serious consequences like it had in ArVi's case!

A wife would expect her husband to tell her the truth, especially abt something as serious abt having a baby with his ex-wife! Purvi had every right to be angry at him and leave him! Ovi caused ArVi separation indirectly and also passively with her silence of 20 yrs!