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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: onirfans

@ red:

why is not use for ovi also...as a wife she could expect her husband to tell her the truth, especially as serious abt having a baby with his ex girl-friend and most important about her own child? Ovi had every right to be angry at him and leave him ! purvi caused arovi separation directly and also passively with her silence abt her physical relationship with arjun before arovi marriage and after marriage also when ovi asked about it ready to leave ...
did not she responsible for destroy her child and ovi's child future...

]Ovi did leave Arjun didnt she? When she learned abt Pari? But Purvi was blamed at that time for that breakup! So why cant Ovi be blamed for ArVi separation as she hid Pia's truth from ArVi and asked Arjun to lie to Purvi? Of course Ovi has to be blamed also!




but at that time all told its ovi's fault to left arjun after betrayal then why not its purvi's fault according this logic.

Were u even on the forum back then? Everybody was blaming Purvi for Arjun Ovi breakup...so why cant Ovi be blamed for ArVi breakup? Is she extra-special?

arjun lied purvi before telling ovi and its also first time to purvi ...but arjun always lied to ovi bcz always purvi told him to hide about to ovi and fallowed her word.

Really? First time Arjun lied or hid something from Purvi? What abt the time he didnt tell her that he was getting engaged to Ovi?

but the fact is ovi always gave arjun time for telling the truth and explanation of his truth and so many time she forgave arjun...but purvi concluded at one point...


Ovi gave him chance to talk but didnt forgive him, didnt return to him. So why blame Purvi for doing the same? A wife cannot forgive her husband for having a kid with another woman, can she?
Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: pallavi25


Exactly!šŸ‘
All this time, Purvi was being blamed for Ovi being shunned by her parents! But now Ovi is risking even greater censure from her parents by proving their 20 yrs of distrust right! But she doesnt care abt her parents!
She cares only abt Arjun, doesnt give a hoot for her parents obviously! She takes a superfast flight at his request and puts up a whole charade, tells so many cruel lies to Purvi...all at his request!
Yet she couldnt tell that all important truth for 20 yrs, which would give him his happiness, Purvi!

@ Bold : When she ever had ? Archana and Manav both were for her a means to and end ( i.e. to get Arjun).
@ Blue : Oh does she?.. I doubt it very much, if she really cared about Arjun, she would have told her family and Purvi about Pia's truth. And this is Ovi, isn't it? The REAL one-- the one who shouts, screams, makes her voice heard, is honest and have no SECRETS in here PURE heart? So what happened to that being REAL, not being SECRETIVE and being HONEST?
Let Pia's secret be damned, let Arjun be damned , let Purvi be damned, let the family be damned. And she knows all along that being with Purvi is what Arjun had ALWAYS wanted. And still she cared for Arjun?... ASTOUNDING

Oh yeah she cares too much right?.. She had always cared that Arjun Purvi remained separated. She did a great job every time. And even today she is doing a GREAT job at that.
BTW according to yesterday's episode ( no assumptions and no extrapolations), didn't this great friend always know that being with Purvi was what Arjun always wanted?.. Something she could have given him all along if she had decided to open her mouth.. ... But oh well! she is such a great friend to Arjun.




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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: pallavi25

For 20 years Ovi could not tell the truth to Purvi or the Deshmukhs that she wasnt living with Arjun.

She let them believe the worst of her and Arjun!

Just one phone call to Manav or Savita or Teju would have cleared the matter for ArVi and cleared her own name too!

And ArMaan too deserved to know abt Pia as she had hidden Pia's existence from them from the beginning! From her birth!

So Ovi could not tell ONE truth that really needed to be told 20 yrs ago!

Pallavi try seeing it from Ovi's perspective, there was no way anyone with an ounce of common sense, or just anyone who has had children would ever think that Pia was a result of arjun cheating on purvi during their 2 month marriage. certainly not a mother of 5 archana. I don't think she knew that her parents and purvi presumed she was living with arjun for 20 years. the nature of their misunderstandings were so bizarre, that ovi probably thought purvi left arjun because she was unable to accept Pia. and her family just cut ties with her because they were angry that she had Arjun's baby after the divorce without telling them anything- like they were mad at Purvi for having Pari without telling anyone about her parentage. in that case what explanation could Ovi possibly give? that she wanted arvi to marry, so she hid the kid? how would that have absolved her in this case, when her parents think she had an affair with arjun? thats how any normal person would think. thinking that she had an affair with Arjun and had a baby in 2 months is just bizarre as hell. and y would anyone ever assume that a recently divorced couple were having a relationship with each other post divorce? y wud they have then divorced in the first place?
But Ovi can tell dozens of lies to Purvi to send her away from Arjun's life again! šŸ‘

What exactly are her intentions?
So shes Arjun's "childhood friend" and telling all those lies at his request!! Yeah right!

Then why didnt she see how her "childhood friend" was suffering, spending 20 yrs of life alone? ALL because of ONE LIE he told Purvi at the hospital?? She still couldnt tell the truth for his sake?

That time also Ovi had urged him to lie to Purvi. And that ONE lie made all the difference!

She always supports Arjun's lies but she couldnt tell ONE truth to relieve his suffering?

This whole game of lies and deceit, to hide Arjun's illness, supposedly for Purvi's Bhalayi, is just plain WRONG! Lying can never benefit anyone!

Even if Arjun cannot bear to tell Purvi abt his illness, then Ovi shd not have helped him LIE to Purvi either!
She shd have remained neutral and silent and let Purvi make her own judgements abt the situation.
Yes I fully agree that she should've stayed out of the situation.
But she seemed to be enjoying herself watching Purvi cry as she reiterated that she had been living with Arjun as his wife for last 20 yrs! She quite gleefully supported Arjun's disgusting lie that he had been using Purvi to get Ovi back in his life! 🤢

On the contrary, she was shown today to be very distraught about the whole situation. and the day she told purvi the lies, she was acting. even arjun seemed like he was enjoying himself seeing purvi like that. if they seemed distraught about her situation, it wouldn't convince purvi or make her hate arjun. that was their goal.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam



Only one thing left to say. You really can't stop blaming Ovi for everything, can you? Carry on with your blind fanaticism šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ˜† ā­ļø You can report me if you want, I really don't care 😃


Failed in debate so resorting to name calling? Didnt expect this from you!
Still cannot justify Ovi lying to Purvi at Arjun's behest? šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki1591


i think they believed it bc ovi has a history of doing crazy things. marrying arjun when he was in love w purvi, making the deal with purvi, drinking while pregnant, shes not exactly the most sane person. she does things how she wants and no one can stop her so it's believable that she did this. also purvi stoy would make sense bc if we were in arman shoes, we would think why would our daughter not tell us she had given birth to a child? unless she had something to hide there was no reason to hide it. so if they put 2 and 2 together the story would make sense. and i think their logic was colored not just by hearing purvi version but also ovi betrayel of their trust. imagine finding out that ur daughter was pregnant and had a secret child and she did not tell u. if ovi didnt think her parents were worthy enough to know such a big secret, how can ovi expect them to not think the worst of her after such a huge betrayel of trust


Firstly, Ovi had only done those things because the guy she had loved since her childhood who had promised to marry her and even done the engagement was having an ongoing affair with Purvi. Both of them were lying to her face. Arjun didn't tell the truth until Manav asked him where his feelings lay, at which point he confesses his love for Purvi and then without a second glance at her rushes to unite with Purvi in the rain. Then the two who supposedly cared about Ovi enough to keep her from the truth, decide to get married without giving her time to recover from the shock tey had just given her. Not only that, but also ask her dad to do kanyadaan. Besharmi ki bhi koi had hoti hai. Even after their marriage, he kept daydreaming about Purvi and never gave any emotional support to his wife. I think all this would definitely push anyone's buttons. But ever since Ovi returned to India for Onir's case, has she done anything to prove that she wasn't sane and hadn't recovered from past betrayals? She divorced Arjun which she wouldn't have if she eventually wanted him back. Not to mention, Ovi's marriage was broken due to Purvi's constant meddling. So if Ovi knows how terrible it feels when a spouse has an affair, why would she want to have an adulterous relationship with Arjun? After everything she has been through, why would she support infidelity?


As for ArMan being hurt about hiding the truth about Pia, they may have been. But their feeling of hurt should be greater than their need to find out the validity of the story before disowning their daughter. Purvi too had hid the truth hadn't she? She was about 7 months when they found out that she was not only married but also pregnant. But she is welcomed with open arms and given a chance to explain herself isn't she? When Pari's truth comes out, Purvi is forgiven by Archana in a matter of days but no one tries to get in touch with Ovi for more than 20 years, why? There was a betrayal of trust there too wasnt there? When Pari's truth came out, even then in the hospital room Archana gave Purvi a chance to tell her story, why is Ovi never given the chance? Why these double standards by the parents, shouldn't all children be equal to them. Chalo they didn't trust Ovi, but why not Arjun. The guy had sacrificed just about anything for Purvi right, so why did no one believe that he wouldn't have an affair? Plus even if Purvi didn't do the math, should ArMan as parents have known that if ArVi were only married 2 months there was no way she was a result of an affair rather because of ArOvi's marriage. Saying this I would really doubt the hurt they must be feeling that Ovi hid this. they have always been bad parents to Ovi, as we can see even after knowing the Ovi may have been alone all this time their primary concern still remains to be ArVi's reunion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: pallavi25


Ovi gave him chance to talk but didnt forgive him, didnt return to him. So why blame Purvi for doing the same? A wife cannot forgive her husband for having a kid with another woman, can she?


@ blue yes ovi gave chance but purvi gave chance no she did not ...

according u ovi did not forgave arjun r u joiking if she did not forgave arvi then why she came to attain their marriage and why she told to arjun marry with purvi...why she accept and hug pari with motherly love ...

and about return to back ...may be she wanted when she learn about truth of pregnancy but its too late bcz arvi were close together and she realized she has no place in arjun's life and also her family...all r took advantage of ovi's absence...but she happily accept it and try to smooth with purvi and develop a good relationship with arjun...in between misunderstanding time she always try to contact to arjun...

but what purvi did she left arjun and never gave chance to explain and after leaving she did not care about arjun live or dead ( she herself told arjun dead for her)




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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For your first point, I don't think she expected Arjun to overnight forget his love, she was hurt when she saw her messages in his phone or their constant meetings. He got her pregnant, but still was hung up on Purvi. That I think is not fair to her, he was ready to be physical with her but still think about Purvi all the time? The deal was a mistake, but it was a mistake all three of them made. Arjun knew he was getting married to Ovi, so whatever deal he made he should have atleast stuck by it. Now even if we forget the stuff before pregnancy, even after pregnancy they kept having secret meetings And Arjun who told Ovi that Purvi needed to know the truth about Pia, was ready to hide Pari's truth from Ovi until Punni started blackmailing Purvi. Ovi only made bad decisions when she was disturbed after getting some sort of betrayal, that by no way shows what a person is like. Any person can have a dark period in this past, that doesn't mean their whole future should be judged upon those incidents. And even if outsiders may not want to give such a person a benefit of the doubt, family members should be the first to understand this, and usually are the first to follow this. Ovi would have never given Arjun divorce had she ever wanted to have him back, neither would she have supported the marriage. And if she were like before, she would have gone ballistic knowing about Purvi's second pregnancy. If she were trying to get Arjun back, she would come with the baby and flaunt in their face causing disturbance in the wedding. So if they believed that she was just trying to get in between them, she had a hundred opportunities to do so before and after ArVi marriage but she didn't do so.


It has to be somewhere around 2 months, because even though they don't clarify in the drama as audience we know that Pia was a result of ArOvi marriage, because Ovi and Arjun didn't have any relations after their divorce had been finalized. So the timeline in the story would have matched accordingly and they still should have been smart in guessing when Pia was conceived. Yes, we don't know if Ovi was given a chance to explain, but looking at the kind of dislike they have for her, she probably wasn't looked upon again. Plus ArMan clearly stated, they should have tried finding out the truth but they didn't. So clearly, they hadn't spoken to Ovi or tried finding out. Without talking to her, they just believe the worst of her. She has done wrongs, but she has apologized for them and tried to fix them. But she is not the only one, Arjun and Purvi have wronged too. Purvi's worse one being the baby swap. That was illegal, but still they believe the best for her. She took away a mother's right to mourn for her dead child and conveniently replaced it with hers. I don't know about you, but for me that is wrong on so many levels no matter what her intentions were. Another child can't just be a substitute for your dead baby. As far as trust goes, Purvi has broken it quite a few times as well, but she is always accepted back and no one keeps track of all her wrongdoings but tabs are always kept on Ovi. Why is that? Please don't give me her noble intentions as an excuse. Intentions can only go so far, but it is the outcome of your actions that matters the most. Purvi saw how her repeated mahaanta acts yielded no good, but she always kept on doing them nevertheless.

Arjun has repeatedly broken Ovi's trust, but not so much with Purvi. Infact, the only time he kept Purvi in the dark was when she didn't know he was going to get engaged to Ovi. After that he has almost always been Purvi's lapdog, adhering to any demands and sacrifices asked of him by her. So no, I don't think it is believable that he would have commit adultery with the same girl who he disrespected, left, and then married the girl he loved. He had an ongoing emotional affair with Purvi all the while when he was married to Ovi, and every person in the family knew that. They knew he didn't want/ neither did he ever love Ovi, so to expect that he would ditch Purvi to have an affair with Ovi is absurd. And like I said before, Ovi had countless opportunities to break their wedding even before, hell they didn't even need to give each other divorce if they wanted to be with each other.
Edited by MayurSidma - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Who is purvi for ovi??????????? purvi asked her for sorry??? purvi asked her hows u ovi after 20 year?? ...i can expect this from purvi who can donate her daughter for ovi bhalayi...for once also purvi feel bad for ovi nd pia for separating them from family becoz of her misunderstanding???? for once also she thought that if they are not with arjun than where are they now??? they ever shown us that purvi asked ovi that how can u do this with my husband after our marriage????? if purvi can show that much care dat she can willingly donate her baby ,she can convince arjun for physical relationship for ovi bhalayi than why this basic care i have not seen till now?????
ohhh ya becoz of shocked state ..lol... this is the only way for defensing her...situation,impulsive nature,shock etc etc šŸ˜†

Who is arjun for ovi??????????? childhood companion,father of her daughter nd yaa love too...its her duty to try to convince arjun to inform purvi about truth...which she had done...its up to arjun that what he wants to do after that... if arjun don want to inform purvi about anything than why its ovi's duty to inform purvi???? is there any pavitra rishta between purvi and ovi???? if ovi wants to give preference to her friend over purvi than its her choice ...one can't expect that ovi should do favour for purvi over arjun...

if my friend is on death bed and asking me for favour than its not time for me to think that what is good for his lover...its his duty to think about his lover not mine...my duty is either i say yes for help or no for help ...it is his life nd his lover so he is only person who is having right to decide about his lover . everyone is not love to do nose poking nd thoping our decisions on others type.
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Ovi gave him chance to talk but didnt forgive him, didnt return to him. So why blame Purvi for doing the same? A wife cannot forgive her husband for having a kid with another woman, can she?

@ Bold: Strange isn't it?.. Arjun talks to Ovi, convinces her that Pari is something that had happened between him and Purvi before they were married. Ovi still decides to divorce him. Ovi is glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high..
Now the scenario is reversed. Purvi goes to Canada with big hopes of making amends with her estranged husband, comes to know about Pia's existence, probably miscarries. She is still accused of being so full of herself and not DISTRAUGHT due to probable miscarriage.
She leaves Arjun thinking the worst of him and Arjun doesn't try enough all these years to tell her that " Pia is not the result of marital infidelity" and her distrust continues.
So basically,
Arjun conveys the truth to Ovi but he cannot do the same to Purvi.
It is still Purvi's fault... Oh My !
Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago

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