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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bitasta

@ Bold: Strange isn't it?.. Arjun talks to Ovi, convinces her that Pari is something that had happened between him and Purvi before they were married. Ovi still decides to divorce him. Ovi is glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high..
Now the scenario is reversed. Purvi goes to Canada with big hopes of making amends with her estranged husband, comes to know about Pia's existence, probably miscarries. She is still accused of being so full of herself and not DISTRAUGHT due to probable miscarriage.
She leaves Arjun thinking the worst of him and Arjun doesn't try enough all these years to tell her that " Pia is not the result of marital infidelity" and her distrust continues.
But it is still Purvi's fault ...


Blue :-- i guess you skip major point here... its was not only case of pari's truth ...its was case of betrayal too... purvi donate that lovechild to ovi without informing ovi... ovi was in illusion that baby is her's... when truth come out..she comes to know that baby whom she is claiming to her's is love child of her husband and ex...betrayal from Dr. nd purvi's side regarding baby...if my husband's ex replace my dead baby with her love child than what should i do?? happily accept that love child whose mother do betrayal on me???If that ex requesting me to keep her love child with me than what should i do??? i should keep that love child in my home whose mother do betrayal on me by replacing my dead baby with her lover child...gr8šŸ‘...ovi decided to divorce because her accusation was true regarding pari's truth...

purvi's accusation was ever true that pia conceived after arvi mrg???? purvi can glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high only in misunderstanding because she was never interested in investigation or never willing to know reality.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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It was her duty to tell them the truth. but how do we know she didn't? even if she did, it wouldn't change anything simply because her truth was relatively simple-'mum dad I have a daughter called Pia. she is 2 months old and she is Arjuns daughter. I hid this from you all because I didn't want to involve arjun in all this and wanted him to be happy with purvi.' whereas her parent's misconceptions were much more complicated. they thought she was having an affair with arjun so her explaining that Pia was arjun's daughter, whom she hid for arvi happiness, would only reaffirm that she and arjun were seeing each other behind purvi's back and she hid the baby so that arjun could get away with it.
The only way she could've solved this situation for arvi, was if she had said-'no! i did not have an affair with arjun after our divorce or during arvi wedding, pia was conceived in wedlock'. and the only way she could've said that was if she knew what her parents were thinking. and there was no way she could've guessed at that completely ridiculous thoughts her parents were having.
Food for thought. 😊


We know she didnt tell the truth to ArMaan because they had no idea of what happened 20 yrs ago until Purvi told them abt it after getting the truth from Arjun.
Ovi didnt have to go into such details, she just needed to say Pia is her and Arjun's daughter from their marriage, and most importantly, that she and Arjun were not together, she was living in Canada, Arjun was in India. Thats it! That would have solved all the problems and cleared away all the misconceptions! Just a simple phone call stating she wasnt involved with Arjun anymore.

How would she know what her parents were thinking? Yes, because she never reached out to them, because she didnt care what they thought, she didnt bother to get in touch with them and just let them think what they were thinking.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania


Blue :-- i guess you skip major point here... its was not only case of pari's truth ...its was case of betrayal too... purvi donate that lovechild to ovi without informing ovi... ovi was in illusion that baby is her's... when truth come out..she comes to know that baby whom she is claiming to her's is love child of her husband and ex...betrayal from Dr. nd purvi's side regarding baby...if my husband's ex replace my dead baby with her love child than what should i do?? happily accept that love child whose mother do betrayal on me???If that ex requesting me to keep her love child with me than what should i do??? i should keep that love child in my home whose mother do betrayal on me by replacing my dead baby with her lover child...gr8šŸ‘...ovi decided to divorce because her accusation was true regarding pari's truth...

purvi's accusation was ever true that pia conceived after arvi mrg???? purvi can glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high only in misunderstanding because she was never interested in investigation or never willing to know reality.



What was there to investigate? She asked Arjun where he was and he lied blatantly. She miscarried her baby in shock! She was furious, hurt, felt cheated and betrayed!

If Ovi can be glorified for leaving Arjun after discovering abt Pari, then why cant Purvi be glorified for leaving Arjun after discovering abt Pia? Because Purvi has no right to her dignity?

Pia may have been conceived during Arjun-Ovi marriage but Arjun hid the fact of her birth from Purvi.

Purvi thought he knew all along abt Pia, that he had hidden it from her so he could marry Purvi without any hitches. So basically she thought Arjun had cheated and deceived her!
Whereas Arjun had just learned abt Pia a couple of days ago!

Same as Ovi had thought that Arjun had deceived her abt Pari and that he knew all along that Pari was his and Purvi's child. Whereas Arjun had just learned the truth abt Pari a couple of days ago.

So both situations are basically the same. Its not abt the baby, its abt Arjun! Abt his lying or coming clean abt what he knew when he knew it!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Who is purvi for ovi??????????? purvi asked her for sorry??? purvi asked her hows u ovi after 20 year?? ...i can expect this from purvi who can donate her daughter for ovi bhalayi...for once also purvi feel bad for ovi nd pia for separating them from family becoz of her misunderstanding???? for once also she thought that if they are not with arjun than where are they now??? they ever shown us that purvi asked ovi that how can u do this with my husband after our marriage????? if purvi can show that much care dat she can willingly donate her baby ,she can convince arjun for physical relationship for ovi bhalayi than why this basic care i have not seen till now?????
ohhh ya becoz of shocked state ..lol... this is the only way for defensing her...situation,impulsive nature,shock etc etc šŸ˜†

Who is Purvi for Ovi? Purvi gave up her love for Ovi, didnt she? Why would she ask Ovi how are you when Ovi started taunting and insulting her right away from Arjun's door? Actually Purvi was the one who reminded Archana abt Ovi and Pia? Have u forgotten that or ignoring that fact? Yes, Purvi was shocked after discovering Arjun with Ovi and their secret child! So shocked that she probably lost her baby! Miscarriage is such a funny matter, isnt it?

Who is arjun for ovi??????????? childhood companion,father of her daughter nd yaa love too...its her duty to try to convince arjun to inform purvi about truth...which she had done...its up to arjun that what he wants to do after that... if arjun don want to inform purvi about anything than why its ovi's duty to inform purvi????

Who is Arjun to Ovi? Her obsession, her mania! Its not Ovi's duty to inform Purvi abt Arjun's illness but its her duty to help Arjun in telling blatant and ugly lies to Purvi? NICE! šŸ‘

is there any pavitra rishta between purvi and ovi???? if ovi wants to give preference to her friend over purvi than its her choice ...one can't expect that ovi should do favour for purvi over arjun...

if my friend is on death bed and asking me for favour than its not time for me to think that what is good for his lover...its his duty to think about his lover not mine...my duty is either i say yes for help or no for help ...it is his life nd his lover so he is only person who is having right to decide about his lover . everyone is not love to do nose poking nd thoping our decisions on others type.


[B]Ovi is clearly poking her nose here, she could have refused to help Arjun, she didnt have to hurt Purvi again! She didnt have to lie again, she could have remained silent! Of course we know she wouldnt help Purvi...she hates Purvi so shes always ready to help Arjun hurt Purvi.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Blue :-- i guess you skip major point here... its was not only case of pari's truth ...its was case of betrayal too... purvi donate that lovechild to ovi without informing ovi... ovi was in illusion that baby is her's... when truth come out..she comes to know that baby whom she is claiming to her's is love child of her husband and ex...betrayal from Dr. nd purvi's side regarding baby...if my husband's ex replace my dead baby with her love child than what should i do?? happily accept that love child whose mother do betrayal on me???If that ex requesting me to keep her love child with me than what should i do??? i should keep that love child in my home whose mother do betrayal on me by replacing my dead baby with her lover child...gr8šŸ‘...ovi decided to divorce because her accusation was true regarding pari's truth...

purvi's accusation was ever true that pia conceived after arvi mrg???? purvi can glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high only in misunderstanding because she was never interested in investigation or never willing to know reality.


Rather than jumping into conclusion and trying to twist my words.. it is better for you to first try and see what the other person had wanted to say. My exact post was like the one below:
@ Bold: Strange isn't it?.. Arjun talks to Ovi, convinces her that Pari is something that had happened between him and Purvi before they were married. Ovi still decides to divorce him. Ovi is glorified for walking away from Arjun with her head held high..Now the scenario is reversed. Purvi goes to Canada with big hopes of making amends with her estranged husband, comes to know about Pia's existence, probably miscarries. She is still accused of being so full of herself and not DISTRAUGHT due to probable miscarriage.
She leaves Arjun thinking the worst of him and Arjun doesn't try enough all these years to tell her that " Pia is not the result of marital infidelity" and her distrust continues.
So basically,
Arjun conveys the truth to Ovi but he cannot do the same to Purvi.
It is still Purvi's fault... Oh My !

But what you do? You just don't care to read the underlined line and form your judgement that I was trying to say that Ovi should have accepted her husband's love child. šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
When I was simply saying that in Ovi's case, he had conveyed the truth about Pari. Where have I said she should have accepted that child?
And my next point is Arjun could not convey the truth about Pia to Purvi .
So I was simply saying Arjun could tell the truth to OVi and not to Purvi...
But oh well ! I'm definitely IMPRESSED..


Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


[B]Ovi is clearly poking her nose here, she could have refused to help Arjun, she didnt have to hurt Purvi again! She didnt have to lie again, she could have remained silent! Of course we know she wouldnt help Purvi...she hates Purvi so shes always ready to help Arjun hurt Purvi.


Ovi is clearly poking her nose here
i think u don't know difference between nose poking nd WANTED help ... nose poking means u are jumping to do something without respective person's permission... ovi's baby exchange case or greedy punni's night stand case in example of nose poking... Wanted help means when someone request u/call u or begged you or invite you to do something...

Here Arjun begged ovi to do his help... that was WANTED help by arjun... so its not at all nose poking...

she could have refused to help Arjun

again my point is same who is purvi for her that she should refuse to help arjun...or is it ovi's duty to think about arjun's lover????is there any pavitra rishta between ovi and purvi??? according to you ovi is hating purvi than how can u expect that ovi should refuse to arjun???

its gr8 gesture by arjun that he wants to share his pain with ovi...he informed her about it...he begged her to come back...at his weak time...he remembers that person whom he hurts the most...nd at critical time its gr8 gesture by ovi too that she is with her daughter's father,her love nd her childhood buddy by forgetting everything that happens with her from last 20 years due to arvi's misunderstanding ...its gr8 gesture by ovi that for so called deshmukhs nd purvi's sake she has not refused arjun.

she hates Purvi so shes always ready to help Arjun hurt Purvi.

as u have already decided in your mind that she is helping arjun to hurt purvi than you have already sets limit in your mind ...due to that now its very easy for you ignore every gesture of her... its all looks fake to u...whether its ovi's try to convince arjun or teary precap of ovi... so yeah ovi is hating purvi nd helping arjun.😊
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah it's Ovi's fault now
The bad ovi 😔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania


Ovi is clearly poking her nose here
i think u don't know difference between nose poking nd WANTED help ... nose poking means u are jumping to do something without respective person's permission... ovi's baby exchange case or greedy punni's night stand case in example of nose poking... Wanted help means when someone request u/call u or begged you or invite you to do something...

Here Arjun begged ovi to do his help... that was WANTED help by arjun... so its not at all nose poking...

Baby swap wasnt nose poking, it was Bhalayi, remember? She did it to save Ovi from going crazy at her baby's death. And Onir obviously agreed that Ovi would go crazy otherwise he wouldnt have swapped the baby! So it was a donation done with Good intentions! And Punni's case, dont make me laugh..she stopped Punni from selling herself to an old man. Thats not nose poking, Purvi was looking out for her cousin, stopping her from making bad mistake.I think most of us would do the same if that was our female cousin

she could have refused to help Arjun

again my point is same who is purvi for her that she should refuse to help arjun...or is it ovi's duty to think about arjun's lover????is there any pavitra rishta between ovi and purvi??? according to you ovi is hating purvi than how can u expect that ovi should refuse to arjun???

its gr8 gesture by arjun that he wants to share his pain with ovi...he informed her about it...he begged her to come back...at his weak time...he remembers that person whom he hurts the most...nd at critical time its gr8 gesture by ovi too that she is with her daughter's father,her love nd her childhood buddy by forgetting everything that happens with her from last 20 years due to arvi's misunderstanding ...its gr8 gesture by ovi that for so called deshmukhs nd purvi's sake she has not refused arjun.

Who is Purvi? Purvi is her adoptive sister, Purvi gave up Arjun for her, she gave up her baby for her! There is no pavitra rishta between Ovi and Arjun either...šŸ˜† They are merely childhood friends whose marriage was a complete failure due to her mental condition.Ovi never loved Arjun, she just wanted to possess him. If she had loved him, she would have been ecstatic to be his wife, not so frustrated and crazy!
If Ovi was really Arjun's well-wisher and friend, she wouldnt let him suffer alone for 20 years, she would tell the truth to ArMaan and Purvi and she definitely knows how to make her voice heard! So my main point was...since Ovi cannot do anything good by telling truth, then how is she so ready to lie to cause damage again?
Great gesture, really?šŸ˜† Yes, right, by her great gesture she has hurt Purvi AGAIN, for the 100th time! She has jeopardized her reunion with her parents! Because shes not interested in her family, only in Arjun!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Pallavi:

A good detailed post as usual! Thank you.

I agree with you on many points, but some lingering questions remain. Since I respect your opinion, I am raising the questions.

I agree with you about Punni. Purvi's intervention did help Punni and her parents.

I also agree with you that when Purvi forced Onir to give her baby to Ovi, she was trying to protect her from going crazy. That was an act of bhalaai. Surely that was the case. You support your point further by mentioning that Onir also agreed that if Ovi knew that she had lost her child she would go crazy. Then why was the logic of bhalaai also not applicable to Onir? Why was Onir consistently bashed in post after post for the following the same logic and the same act of bhalaai?

A more relevant point for the current track is your point about Arjun-Ovi relationship and her lying which I quote below in red. My point follows in green.

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she could have refused to help Arjun


again my point is same who is purvi for her that she should refuse to help arjun...or is it ovi's duty to think about arjun's lover????is there any pavitra rishta between ovi and purvi??? according to you ovi is hating purvi than how can u expect that ovi should refuse to arjun???

its gr8 gesture by arjun that he wants to share his pain with ovi...he informed her about it...he begged her to come back...at his weak time...he remembers that person whom he hurts the most...nd at critical time its gr8 gesture by ovi too that she is with her daughter's father,her love nd her childhood buddy by forgetting everything that happens with her from last 20 years due to arvi's misunderstanding ...its gr8 gesture by ovi that for so called deshmukhs nd purvi's sake she has not refused arjun.

Who is Purvi? Purvi is her adoptive sister, Purvi gave up Arjun for her, she gave up her baby for her! There is no pavitra rishta between Ovi and Arjun either...šŸ˜† They are merely childhood friends whose marriage was a complete failure due to her mental condition.Ovi never loved Arjun, she just wanted to possess him. If she had loved him, she would have been ecstatic to be his wife, not so frustrated and crazy!
If Ovi was really Arjun's well-wisher and friend, she wouldnt let him suffer alone for 20 years, she would tell the truth to ArMaan and Purvi and she definitely knows how to make her voice heard! So my main point was...since Ovi cannot do anything good by telling truth, then how is she so ready to lie to cause damage again?
Great gesture, really?šŸ˜† Yes, right, by her great gesture she has hurt Purvi AGAIN, for the 100th time! She has jeopardized her reunion with her parents! Because shes not interested in her family, only in Arjun!

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"merely childhood friends" is an interesting phrase. Childhood friendships are some of the strongest bonds people develop. If people remain in touch, they remain lifelong. So, if Ovi is doing this as a childhood friend of Arjun, that just shows the strength of their bond.

Further, from what perspective is it Ovi's fault now not to have revealed the truth when the two lovers who were spouses by the time the Canada fiasco happened could not clarify things themselves? And Arjun did not tell Purvi multiple lies, it was in singular (what other lie did he tell? I am not sure). Purvi was admittedly stressed out when the fiasco happened, but in comparison to Ovi, she had always been in a more powerful position with Arjun and she knew that. Plus, how do we know that Arjun had not asked Ovi not to contact Purvi then because Ovi's call could have created further complications?

And does Ovi know how to make herself heard? It is true that she screamed irritably in the early tracks, but it was clear that her screaming was not getting anywhere. As Arjun's wife she was screaming because she was perceptive enough to see that her husband was dreaming about someone else (no fault of Purvi here). It could not have been difficult for Ovi to understand that she would not be heard seriously by the D family.

As for any kind of family bonds, if we remember, by the time of the Canada fiasco, Ovi had already moved her own way, alone. She had left India and it was clear that the D clan was not exactly dying to bring her back. They were too busy making wedding plans. Any person with any sense of selfhood would not contact such a family. In the next 20 years, the Ds and Ks presumed that she was alright and happy. But no one cared even to see the grandchild, who, they knew had been terribly sick. Why should she do anything for them or try to re-establish her relations with such an excuse of a family?

From the current track it appears that it was Arjun who asked Ovi to lie to protect Purvi. She is doing it for him. Ovi's love for Arjun was beyond the limits of reason from the beginning. Earlier it was focused on what she wanted, later it developed into a focus on what he wanted. This lie she is telling Purvi appears a part of the path Ovi's feelings for Arjun have taken. She does not owe anything to anybody else; nor does she have the responsibility for clarifying things for people who practically disowned her.

Edited by muse10 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Baby swap wasnt nose poking, it was Bhalayi, Purvi was looking out for her cousin I think most of us would do the same if that was our female cousin.
well you are justifying for purvi never done nose poking...you have not mention new points or new statement regarding your previous statement of ovi is doing nose poking so should i consider that u got my point that its wanted help of arjun not nose poking of ovi ??

Purvi gave up Arjun for her
purvi gave up arjun for archana...not for ovi... u can remember that deal was for archana bhalayi...not for ovi bhalayi...

There is no pavitra rishta between Ovi and Arjun either
There is surely rishta between them...and arjun himself give that important to dat rishta dats why he called ovi for help ...ovi is knowing about arjun's pain... rishta is better than that pavitra rishta where your partner thinks that you are that much emotionally weak that its better to not to inform you... how sad...šŸ˜†

shes not interested in her family, only in Arjun!
agree... she is not interested in family ... its better to help needy friend than biased family... happy that she is not at all interested in deshmukhs...happy dat arjun himself called her nd shared his pain nd begged for help... 😊

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