Some thoughts about Vishnu: in praise of Pranati - Page 4

Originally posted by: poas

after archana ,ovi,tehu now its soham's turn.soham is ready to b shoot😆i think CV should cut role of archana and her biological kids from PR then it will b again no1 show in all channel🤣

IMHO...I don't think we the viewers should differentiate between the biological and adopted kids. Its the parents or characters in the show who is differentiating that is shown to us and thats what the viewers (us) are discussing...

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

I would like to add something to Shyamala's response here, if I may.
It is our tradition that when someone touches your feet, you bless them automatically, even if it is your arch enemy or a stranger. I would expect this from the sanskari Archana. I dont agree to the scene, but I still see why Archana blessed Soham when he touched her feet. So, what was the harm in her blessing Arjun? Granted she is furious at him for her belief that he wronged her daughters, but he is still her best friend, Aashna and DK's son, he has not done any wrong until this, so why couldnt she even bless him even half heartedly. He did say she was like his mother...when you challenge someone, it is also an acceptance of that person in some little way, because there is always a chance that the person might win, a 50 - 50 chance. It was little of her not to give him aashirward. isnt it against all her beliefs and sanskaars that she grew up with?
I know the topic here is not Arjun and Archana, but just wanted to state my point..😊..

Dear Pranati,

You are more than welcome. I liked the point you had made about the genetical inheritance very much, and as that was the core of my post, of course it had to be dedicated to you!

Yes, if Soham had been raised among saintly people, his genetical inheritance would have been suppressed to a large extent, even if not completely. What bothers me, and it is reflected in the post, is the tendency to forgive Vishnu all his crimes just because they loved him as a baby and they have deep affection for his parents. That is not right, especially seeing that his crimes are so serious.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pch76

Hi Shyamala,

Thanks so much for the lovely analysis! I was pleasantly surprised that my comment inspire you intriguing character analysis for Soham. I appreciate that you titled it "in paraise of Pranati".

I have always felt that character/behavior is many times genetically inherited as well like physical characteristics... and the environment conditions under which you are raised can just reinforce it altogether... I am not a medical practitioner, so I just draw this from my own life experiences. 😉

Wonder, if Soham was taken away by Varsha and raised in an Ashram/Monk Sanctuary? he would have been saintly then 😉😉😉

Thanks again for your beautiful post. Much appreciated

Pranati

Completely and wholeheartedly agree with you two lovely ladies!!!

Vishnu/Soham/Lalla/Munna didnt even show his actual face yet and the whole forum erupted with his praise! AND... its mainly due to the sentimentality of him being the young Soham of Archana and Manav and them being his parents and it has nothing to do with HIM as himself!!!!

And Jyothi (forgive me for previously spelling your name as Jyoti), but I completely agree... RD and Asha arent as glamourous as others in the Telly world... but like i said in another post: "RD and Asha got great facial expressions and body language... and now, their tone of voice as well is incredible, it speaks across the universe. As u know, i dont know much Hindi... but the tone alone that they use can speak for them - its universal ☺️" . they appeal to us. And of course, you are right Ms. Shyamala - they come as a package. Its not that we drool over Arjun... it the pure, innocent, loving, fresh romance that has us all hooked.

Anyway, to repeat u girls... to each their own!

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

With you on all this, Shyamala.. @blue: this has been seen from day 1 of soham's appearance..
But, still as you said, each to their own.
One other thing I would like to add in the appeal of Arjun-Purvi is not just their looks, not to lessen it but there are more handsome men and beautiful women in the tellyworld than them, but it is the chemistry, the talent that they both have, and how beautiful they make even the mundane scenes look, and the new age romance they bring forth, is the main reason for the appeal.

Jyoti,

But of course!

It is not their looks alone, for he is only passably goodlooking and she is more fine-boned and elegant than beautiful or even very pretty. It is the freshness and modern approach that they bring to their love story - bar the few weeks of her screeching and him babbling nonsense - plus the tenderness and gentle affection that light up their scenes together. And these scenes are getting more appealing by the day, laced with mischief and an easy mutual understanding of what they mean to each other, and a readiness to voice this without reservations.

I am sure there are a lot of young girls in the forum who go gaga over Arjun for his looks, and there is no harm in that at that age, but people like me, long past the age of such crushes, love them both only for the qualities I have listed. They delight me as no other pairing has done since I started watching TV serials 4 year ago, and it is they, especially now that both have outgrown their earlier, exasperating follies (except Arjun being too much of a do gooder these days!), who keep me with PR regardless of the lunacies of what passes for a script there.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

With you on all this, Shyamala.. @blue: this has been seen from day 1 of soham's appearance..But, still as you said, each to their own.

One other thing I would like to add in the appeal of Arjun-Purvi is not just their looks, not to lessen it but there are more handsome men and beautiful women in the tellyworld than them, but it is the chemistry, the talent that they both have, and how beautiful they make even the mundane scenes look, and the new age romance they bring forth, is the main reason for the appeal.

Dear Ash,

As for the full text of the Arjun Purvi scene today, I have posted it for you in that other thread, so that you could better enjoy the telecast. You might have seen it, but in case it is lost there, here is it again.

Arjun asks her what she has to say for herself now, as he has broken the handi and made what she said was impossible possible. Purvi teases him, saying that it was her baba who had broken the handi, and if he had not saved Arjun from falling, he would surely have broken at least a bone or two ( I would like to add here that I rewatched the top of the pyramid scene once more, moving it frame by frame, and it was Manav who started falling backwards, when his left hand also came away from the handi, but never mind. The CVs now want it to be Manav as Arjun's saviour, and that is ok too, just as it was nice of him when he offered to get Arjun out on bail by contacting the DCP he knows).

Arjun responds that this too would have been fine with him, as he could have lain in a hospital bed while she brought him special meals. Purvi's face starts drooping and she will not look up despite his coaxing her and saying sorry for upsetting her. When he repeatedly asks her what was wrong, she hesitantly voices her deep fear, at the moment when she thought he was going to fall, that something bad would happen to him.

He tries to cheer her up, and says that her coming into his life was the happiest thing that ever happened to him. Now, he could not stay away from her even for an instant - here she looks up at him, her eyes lit up with happiness and pride. His dream now was to spend the rest of his life with her.

Here is when Purvi, her face alight with mischief, asks him that portentous question: What if someone were to try to carry me off under your very eyes? Who would do that? he retorts, adding, with an attempt at reassurance that is not quite convincing, that if anyone made such an attempt, that would be his last.

Why, he continues, what about someone else, even if you, Ms.Purvi Deshmukh, wanted to go away from me, you would not be allowed to do so. Purvi raises her brows in mock exasperation and questioning. Because, he asserts, Arjun Kirloskar is now after you, haath dhoke ( with all the force at his command). Purvi is delighted, and it shows in her eyes.

She pleads with him to let her go, as he is holding her very close, and she is afraid someone might see them, and she has also to go to the Krishna temple for the aarti. No one is holding you back, he teases her, but I need a reward for all the hard work I put in that made it possible for me to break the dahi handi. He points to his cheek, obviously asking for a kiss. She tricks him, asking for her hands to be freed first, and when he lets them go, she pats his cheek and runs away.

That is it, and I hope you find it useful when you watch the scene again.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

Completely and wholeheartedly agree with you two lovely ladies!!!

Vishnu/Soham/Lalla/Munna didnt even show his actual face yet and the whole forum erupted with his praise! AND... its mainly due to the sentimentality of him being the young Soham of Archana and Manav and them being his parents and it has nothing to do with HIM as himself!!!!

And Jyothi (forgive me for previously spelling your name as Jyoti), but I completely agree... RD and Asha arent as glamourous as others in the Telly world... but like i said in another post: "RD and Asha got great facial expressions and body language... and now, their tone of voice as well is incredible, it speaks across the universe. As u know, i dont know much Hindi... but the tone alone that they use can speak for them - its universal ☺️" . they appeal to us. And of course, you are right Ms. Shyamala - they come as a package. Its not that we drool over Arjun... it the pure, innocent, loving, fresh romance that has us all hooked.

Anyway, to repeat u girls... to each their own!

My only reason to forgive Vishnu/Soham for his crimes would be that he was so cruelly manipulated and robbed of his identity...from the day he was born.. tossed around like a tennis ball and and then Varsha stealing him away ... What was his fault in all that...

Read some of the posts here and wanted to post something for the first time.

Dear Pranati,

I quite see that and I can understand it too, but if you had been at the receiving end of one of his kidnappings, I don't think you would feel the same about him. One has to pay for one's sins, whatever one's reason for committing them, and in this case he does not even think that they are crimes.

Did you see the way Varsha is treated by that Balan? And this woman led poor Satish, who idolised her, such a hellish life. She deserves every bit of what she is being subjected to now, above all for what she has done to Soham.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pch76

My only reason to forgive Vishnu/Soham for his crimes would be that he was so cruelly manipulated and robbed of his identity...from the day he was born.. tossed around like a tennis ball and and then Varsha stealing him away ... What was his fault in all that...

Dear Nikita,

I agree with most of what you have set out so sensitively here. But then, the tragedy is that the seriousness of Vishnu's crimes is such that I do not see how there can be the kind of happy ending for him and his parents that so many want. It is simply not possible, unless Balan takes the whole rap for Vishnu, and somehow I do not see that happening.

There is a large component in any person's make up that is decided by the inherited genes, you cannot discount that factor, but I agree that an equally large component is decided by the environment and the nature of the upbringing. I would say 50:50.

It is entirely possible that if , as you say, Vishnu had lived in a nice and loving atmosphere with his real family, then he too would have grown into a nice young man, like Arjun or Purvi. Or perhaps not, for otherwise the son of Sunil Dutt and Nargis would not have turned out as Sanjay Dutt has done, despite the best and most affectionate upbringing possible. That is the genes, a throwback to an earlier generation than that of his parents. There are so many more examples of this kind.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Read some of the posts here and wanted to post something for the first time.

As I have said earlier, I do not really follow the serial these days. But I will admit that my interest has piqued a little ever since Soham made his entry. (That I am disappointed with the way he has been presented is another story)

The reason for this is not that I am another 'sentimental ArMan fan drooling away' or bcos I loved Soham as a baby as some of you assume most to be here, but rather bcos I have followed Soham's story as a baby. And trust me, the child did not have a very happy childhood. He was passed around like a toy between Archana and Varsha, then kidnapped by his psycho aunt Varsha, finally almost given up for adoption by his own parents before they reconsidered their decision and decided not to do it. Not only this, his grandmother too was never his ally, she rather instigated and pushed forward this whole idea of giving Soham up to Varsha, just bcos she was anti-Archana in those days. I can never forget that she even pinched him cruelly in those days.

Soham eventually got separated from his parents and his real family, and lived with a possessive, psychotic mother. We can only imagine what sort of childhood he had.

I have not followed the show very properly, it is not very interesting for me, but I just wanted to say that people are looking forward to this track and to the character of Soham not just bcos of their own sentimental reasons or popularity of Archana and Manav, but ALSO bcos he was a child who was wronged in his childhood, and suffered bcos of the decisions made by them. Who knows, if he had lived in a nice and loving atmosphere with his real family, then he too would have grown into a nice young man, like Arjun or Purvi. It is our ambience, our upbringing that affects us most.

It is bcos of this that people sympathize over him. Of course, it is wrong that all his crimes should be forgiven just cos he is the protagonists's son, I don't even think anyone expects that. What I have gathered from the posts I read, is that people want something to work out and uncover the human being from under Soham, so that he could have a chance to rectify his past, correct his actions and start over a new life, NOT just bcos people love his parents, but rather bcos he was a child who could have been different if placed in a different set of circumstances. And I don't find anything wrong if people are expecting that.

Just my two cents.