Some thoughts about Vishnu: in praise of Pranati

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Pranati,

You are spot on about Soham's genetic inheritance from his
aaji Savita. The way he was reared by Balan Yadav must only have reinforced these inherited traits: the ruthlessness, the total disregard for others when it comes to what you want, and the willingness to crush them if necessary to achieve your desires.

Why then do you add the qualifier that "I am not saying anything against him ..
once he comes back into the fold of his lovely parents - Archana-Manav - he will shed all that negative avatar of his and outsmart his dad in the legitamate world... "? It is simply not possible to have such a fairy tale come true.

I can fully understand the anguish of all the people in the forum - of whom I am one, having followed PR from the beginning - who remember Soham as that heartbreakingly lovely little boy. Many of them want him to go back to a grown up version of that avatar once he has found his real parents. But in this yearning, many of them - of whom I am
not one - forget one cardinal fact that CANNOT be wished away. It is this.

Vishnu/Soham is NOT a misguided little pickpocket or a petty thief whose misdeeds can be condoned once he turns over a new leaf.
He is a confirmed, hard core criminal, who ENJOYS his criminal activities. When Balan tells Varsha that Vishnu has brought him much pride and fame in their dhanda, he means exactly this.

Vishnu is an expert kidnapper who has earned crores for Balan, and though I hope not, we do not know whether he has had to murder anyone in the process of making these crores. Do people think that kidnapping is a nice little game where money is taken only from those who can afford it and nothing nasty happens? They should wake up and smell the coffee, and quickly, and perhaps they should catch up on real life kidnappings turning into nightmares in Crime Patrol.


In what we have seen of him, Vishnu is
not a reluctant recruit to his foster father's gang, he is a willing and eager participant is all the crimes they commit and is proud of his record in this field. Now, as and when he is captured by the police, what do people think will happen: that Archana will weep a few buckets of tears and Manav will make impassioned speeches and Soham/Vishnu will be let off? No way. Not even the CVs of PR can do anything like that. If even one of the umpteen kidnapping cases is proved against him, and assuming that there are no murder charges, he will land a stiff sentence in jail.

So, I do not see why one should assume as soon as they have this grand family
milaap scene, all will be well for all concerned. Soham has a heavy price to pay for all his crimes and he will pay them, unless Balan takes all the blame on himself and exculpates Vishnu totally. That is a remote possibility , but it is the only possibility for Vishnu to get off scot free.

Even should this happen, Vishnu will still remain what he is, a ruthless protagonist who will stop at nothing when he wants to have his way.
He will be a potential danger to society precisely because he is used to breaking the rules with impunity, and this attitude will not change even when he has entered "the legitimate world". He will not be Manav Jr. , but only Vishnu with a coat of white paint.

The key point I am trying to make is this:
Vishnu is NOT a grown up version of the sweet little Soham we all loved. He is an unrepentant and confirmed criminal. That he became one because of circumstances beyond his control is indeed tragic, but if he had not had the seeds of these criminal tendencies already in him not all that Balan tried to teach him would have made him what he is today. Prahlada was also Hiranyakashipu's son, but his father was not able to make a rakshasa of Prahlad despite his best efforts and his threats. Balan, on the contrary, had a willing chela in Vishnu.

Ajay Devgan in Prakash Jha's searing film Apaharan, played a somewhat similar character, but he is pushed into this life of crime in desperation, as he is boxed in by the system and left with no way out. He never enjoys it, he hates what he has become, and in the end, he pays for his sins with his life, and is happy to be free at last.

Vishnu, one the contrary, has no qualms and no hesitation about adopting his present 'career', and no pity for his victims, whom he seems to regards in the way a butcher would look at a sheep to be cut up for the market. Let us see him as he is, and not as we would fondly imagine him to be. We should not glamourise a young criminal just because we fell in love with him as a baby.


Kidnapping (and murder too,maybe) are VERY serious crimes, and let us not trivialise them because the perpetrator is the son of Manav and Archana. Vishnu cannot just shake off a criminal record of this magnitude and simply walk across to 'the legitimate world' where he can then proceed to 'outsmart his dad".


It is a tragedy of monumental proportions for Manav and Archana, and my heart goes out to them, but please, let us not try to airbrush Vishnu and delude ourselves that he can return to the home fold unscathed, like the Prodigal Son, who, the last time I read the Old Testament, had not kidnapped anyone.


Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: pch76

As we await tomorrow's kidnaping I wanted to mention something - I feel, if Soham is able to so well as a gangsman, it could possibly have a genetic advantage 😉...- yes! he probably can plot and manipulate so well because he is "Savita Deshmukh's grandson"... the evil aaji... 😡

Of course, he was raised by the ganster Balan, but, his Savita Deshukh gene in him probably added to him being so successful as a gunda😉
I am not saying anything against him .. once he comes back into the fold of his lovely parents - Archana-Manav - he will shed all that negative avatar of his and outsmart his dad in the legitamate world...
I just wanted to show my anger at savita tai and her evil scheming... 😡

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Posted: 13 years ago
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after archana ,ovi,tehu now its soham's turn.soham is ready to b shoot😆i think CV should cut role of archana and her biological kids from PR then it will b again no1 show in all channel🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Even i m tired of the negativity in PR ...
I agree shyamalaji ki soham's crimes r unforgivable but couldnt the cv's have showed some other career for soham ... arman ke ek bachche ko toh spare kare

Uff too much going on in PR ... it should be named problametic rishta or negative rishta :(
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am afraid I do not understand this at all. Perhaps you meant it as a joke, and if so, please ignore what follows. But in case you don't, I can't see where Archana, Teju and Ovi come into the argument.

Archana may have been criticised by those who do not agree with one or the other decision she took, and Ovi too, but no one can accuse them of any wrongdoing.Teju has always been one of my favourite characters in PR, and I have not changed my views on this.

The whole point of my post is that Vishnu is NOT Soham as he would have become under normal circumstances. Surely no one can argue that all the crimes he has committed, and is about to commit, should be whitewashed and dismissed only because he is Archana and Manav's son?

A story has to have a clear moral for the audience, and serious crimes cannot be shown as going unpunished. This is always taken care of in films - I would cite Deewaar, Shakti and even the old Mother India and Ganga Jamuna. In each of these films, the protagonist turned to crime is desperation, and still paid the ultimate price of his life for it, for the film could not possibly endorse serious crimes no matter what the reason for them.

And yes, as for being shot, while the Indian police is not particularly trigger happy, if a Vishnu style kidnapper had resisted arrest by the NYPD, he would have been shot out of hand, and no questions asked.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: poas

after archana ,ovi,tehu now its soham's turn.soham is ready to b shoot😆i think CV should cut role of archana and her biological kids from PR then it will b again no1 show in all channel🤣

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Kesha,

What you say is absolutely correct. But then the CVs have brought him to this pass, and there is no way we can sugarcoat the kind of person he has become.

It is also interesting that while they showed Archana as refusing to give Arjun her blessings when he sets out to fulfil her challenge, she is shown now as quite ready to bless a complete stranger and wish him the complete fulfillment of all his desires, and this without any idea of what these desires are. It is going to be interesting when she finds out what exactly her new found protege is up to- kidnapping either her husband or her daughter for ransom.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: mjht_ArVi4ever

Even i m tired of the negativity in PR ...
I agree shyamalaji ki soham's crimes r unforgivable but couldnt the cv's have showed some other career for soham ... arman ke ek bachche ko toh spare kare

Uff too much going on in PR ... it should be named problametic rishta or negative rishta :(

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Posted: 13 years ago
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So Archana is supposed to ask Soham first and then decide whether to give her blessing or not?
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Perhaps not, for elders normally bless anyone who asks for their blessings. M comment was about the irony of the blessing being given to someone who was going to seriously harm her nearest and dearest.

But she should have given her aashirwaad to Arjun as well. To pull her feet away when he sought her blessings was unnecessarily harsh and unkind. I also thought then that it was not in line with her character, for she is generally shown as a kind person.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: vishwap

So Archana is supposed to ask Soham first and then decide whether to give her blessing or not?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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How is Archana supposed to be aware of what is going to happen?

As far as Arjun is concerned, was she rude to him before the engagement fiasco? The only time she was rude to him was when he dismissed Purvi from her job. And she apologized to him later because after all, he WAS the boss.

She refused to bless him at that point of time because she KNEW what he wanted was at variance with what she wanted or thought was right.
All I want to gently point out is that while finding faults with what Archana does, it would help to remember times when she supported Purvi too. And Arjun need not necessarily be the reference point everytime.😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
I agree with you completely. I am not a PR-1 person, wasnt following then, but even I can see that this is absolutely the wrong profession to show armaan's son to be brought in as. They are a decent, working people having their own issues for whatever reasons but they are basically good people. If the intent was to reunite them with their son, why couldnt he be someone else ?? A lawyer or businessman that we were all initially speculating. How on earth is it going to be justified showing their son to be a criminal? Even for a tv serial, it cannot be just swept under the rug or blame it on varsha and that leader, and have an happy reunon.
As you rightly said, this boy is Vishnu, and not the child Soham that everyone loved. We have seen a glimpse of the ruthlessness in him already a couple of days ago. Vishnu is not a petty thief that a rehabilitation can be shown easily. Even if he repents kidnapping manav or any of the kids, the fact remains that he is basically a kidnapper who has commited crimes that cannot be overlooked just because we dont want to see him that way.
Putting his acceptability and issues of the other kids be it Ovi, Teju, Purvi or Sachin on the same level is ridiculous. It is not the same. It will be a heartache for achana and manav to see what their son turned out to be. No parent deserves this. I do not see how there can be a happy ending in this. That is the sad part.
But, that is my opinion. The ilustrious cv's may blatantly ignore this basic fact and go about this union like any other long lost son. I will not be surprised as we have seen more ridiculous things shown in the tv world.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Its ok..with out negative characters how can we watch the show...if no soham/savita how they can Elevate Arjun/Archana's character more???...Mass character like Soham/vishnu will give more fun sometimes..Now I am expecting battle between Arjun nd Soham..I am eagerly waiting to watch who will win in the first day of battle Arjun or Soham...

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