Some thoughts about Vishnu: in praise of Pranati - Page 2

I agree with the post... and i know despite whose child he is it will be hard for them to make a criminal into a great man.

Anyway... my point in replying is just to ask/clarify something. Its about Savita. Technically... Soham/Vishnu could not have inherited her genes, Cause, ... well... If i remember correctly, Manav is Damu's son from the 1st marriage... Savita is his 2nd wife and their son was Sachin Sn. That's one of the main reasons she didnt like Soham. Sachin Jr. is her grandchild from her beloved son Sachin Sn.

Of course if I'm wrong I dont mind being corrected... but I think thats what I recalled. So, on a technical note... Savita's genes doesn't flow into Soham.

God: Please forgive me for actually saying something on Savita's behalf !

No, no, you have got me wrong on the Vishnu part. It is not a criticism of her there, not at all, as I had explained earlier.

About the Arjun part , I am afraid I do not agree with your explanation that "She refused to bless him at that point of time because she KNEW what he wanted was at variance with what she wanted or thought was right.".

Now, she challenged him to do that, with the full knowledge that he might win it, right? If she had clearly felt what you attribute to her, she should have refused flat, not offered a challenge.

Having done so, with the implicit assurance of her consent and approval if he did succeed, it was churlish of her not to bless him when he sought her blessings. Dronacharya even blessed Arjun before the Kurukshetra war, knowing full well that he was in the opposite camp to his, in what was to be a do or die battle, simply because Arjun sought his blessings. So why not Archana, when the battle was one of her own choosing?

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: vishwap

How is Archana supposed to be aware of what is going to happen?

As far as Arjun is concerned, was she rude to him before the engagement fiasco? The only time she was rude to him was when he dismissed Purvi from her job. And she apologized to him later because after all, he WAS the boss.

She refused to bless him at that point of time because she KNEW what he wanted was at variance with what she wanted or thought was right.

All I want to gently point out is that while finding faults with what Archana does, it would help to remember times when she supported Purvi too. And Arjun need not necessarily be the reference point everytime.😊

Dear ramki1,

I do see your point about a negative character adding spice to PR, but how negative can he be and get away with it in the end if you want a happy ending? Not if he is such a confirmed criminal.

Kidnapping as a trade? In many kidnappings the victim dies thru an overdose of chloroform, and in other cases, he is killed despite the payment of the ransom because the kidnappers are afraid that he will be able to identify them if he is let off. Have you thought of what a parent whose child has been kidnapped by Vishnu will feel about him? Think of the fear, the agony, the despair this young man causes to innocent people with such unconcern! And all this is to be forgotten just because we love his parents and loved him as a baby? I am sure you would not contemplate this at all.Savita may cause any amount of domestic damage, but she has not committed any crime as yet.

Manav and Archana are very decent people and they definitely did not deserve this, and with their best loved child at that. I do not like this turn of events at all, and I will detest it if all of Vishnu's crimes are brushed aside by the CVs in the end for that photo of the whole family together. What sort of moral lesson would that convey, especially given all the stress that is laid day in and day out on the sanskaars of the denizens of PR?

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: ramki1

Its ok..with out negative characters how can we watch the show...if no soham/savita how they can Elevate Arjun/Archana's character more???...Mass character like Soham/vishnu will give more fun sometimes..Now I am expecting battle between Arjun nd Soham..I am eagerly waiting to watch who will win in the first day of battle Arjun or Soham...

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

I agree with the post... and i know despite whose child he is it will be hard for them to make a criminal into a great man.

Anyway... my point in replying is just to ask/clarify something. Its about Savita. Technically... Soham/Vishnu could not have inherited her genes, Cause, ... well... If i remember correctly, Manav is Damu's son from the 1st marriage... Savita is his 2nd wife and their son was Sachin Sn. That's one of the main reasons she didnt like Soham. Sachin Jr. is her grandchild from her beloved son Sachin Sn.

Of course if I'm wrong I dont mind being corrected... but I think thats what I recalled. So, on a technical note... Savita's genes doesn't flow into Soham.

God: Please forgive me for actually saying something on Savita's behalf !

I didn't know that. I knew in the Tamil version srimathi selvam that was the case but in PR, I was under the impression Manav was her biological son. That would explain to some degree Savita's behavior in regards to breaking up her son's marriage (faking the divorce papers, etc) as no natural mother (hopefully) would ever put her happiness or her possessiveness above her child's happiness.

I would like to add something to Shyamala's response here, if I may.
It is our tradition that when someone touches your feet, you bless them automatically, even if it is your arch enemy or a stranger. I would expect this from the sanskari Archana. I dont agree to the scene, but I still see why Archana blessed Soham when he touched her feet. So, what was the harm in her blessing Arjun? Granted she is furious at him for her belief that he wronged her daughters, but he is still her best friend, Aashna and DK's son, he has not done any wrong until this, so why couldnt she even bless him even half heartedly. He did say she was like his mother...when you challenge someone, it is also an acceptance of that person in some little way, because there is always a chance that the person might win, a 50 - 50 chance. It was little of her not to give him aashirward. isnt it against all her beliefs and sanskaars that she grew up with?
I know the topic here is not Arjun and Archana, but just wanted to state my point..😊..

Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, no, you have got me wrong on the Vishnu part. It is not a criticism of her there, not at all, as I had explained earlier.

About the Arjun part , I am afraid I do not agree with your explanation that "She refused to bless him at that point of time because she KNEW what he wanted was at variance with what she wanted or thought was right.".

Now, she challenged him to do that, with the full knowledge that he might win it, right? If she had clearly felt what you attribute to her, she should have refused flat, not offered a challenge.

Having done so, with the implicit assurance of her consent and approval if he did succeed, it was churlish of her not to bless him when he sought her blessings. Dronacharya even blessed Arjun before the Kurukshetra war, knowing full well that he was in the opposite camp to his, in what was to be a do or die battle, simply because Arjun sought his blessings. So why not Archana, when the battle was one of her own choosing?

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Shyamala, as far as Soham is concerned I do not think the boy is that big of a criminal even if he professes to be. Remember the goondas referring to Lalla being favored by his "dad, the goon" even when he fails in his missions. The goonda man even slaps Soham for having failed with his previous commission. Varsha does not seem to be fully aware of soham's nefarious activities, all these lead me to believe he is a new recruit to organized crime. He may have excelled or have been trained in petty theft but not the likes of the crime he is about to commit. Even the three idiots with him yesterday allude to the fact that he has resorted to dancing when he should be concentrating on the kidnapping job at hand.

Soham makes reference to a rakshas's life being hidden away in a thotha - he credits his maiyi for this. Surely this is sheer immaturity, not the talk of a seasoned criminal a la Don?
The boy is beginning to grow on me, his touching interlude with his mother, his unexplained emotions at her touch seem to indicate all is not lost. At present, I am rooting for Soham, though given the mercurial shifts in story lines and character development by the CVs, that is saying absolutely nothing about anything on PR ever.

Jyothi, beg to differ, my friend, at the fear of incurring the wrath of the loyal PAP 😆. Even though Arjun is my soon to be damaad and I am a tad ticked with Archana for not having blessed him, I can grudgingly see her reasoning behind it. Yes, elders bless youngsters but not if they believe the youngsters are at odds with what the elders believe in and especially not if it is the direct antithesis of something the older person has forbidden. Archana did have just cause, her daughter Ovi had been jilted summarily by Arjun, and she knows not the seriousness of Arjun's intentions as regards to her other daughter, Purvi so not blessing him was understandable. God, cannot believe I am defending Archana against my own ladli!! 🤣 Her not giving Purvi a chance to explain or Arjun the opportunity to redeem himself is still inexcusable.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Jyothi, beg to differ, my friend, at the fear of incurring the wrath of the loyal PAP 😆. Even though Arjun is my soon to be damaad and I am a tad ticked with Archana for not having blessed him, I can grudgingly see her reasoning behind it. Yes, elders bless youngsters but not if they believe the youngsters are at odds with what the elders believe in and especially not if it is the direct antithesis of something the older person has forbidden. Archana did have just cause, her daughter Ovi had been jilted summarily by Arjun, and she knows not the seriousness of Arjun's intentions as regards to her other daughter, Purvi so not blessing him was understandable. God, cannot believe I am defending Archana against my own ladli!! 🤣 Her not giving Purvi a chance to explain or Arjun the opportunity to redeem himself is still inexcusable.

Let us agree to disagree, Jahnvi..because I am still not convinced...😊..

for fun, though, humare bache kaa mood kharab kardi usne us dhin..uska kya jaathaa thaa ek haath badaa dee tho 😃. itna pyaraa saa bacha bhi hain woh 😍..


Stranger things have been happening lately, I have even remotely defended Archana recently, Ash is defending Savita and now you...😃..What is PR driving us to..
BTW, you are very wise to be wary of the PAP !! Albeit small, we definitely are a force to reckon with ..😆

Have fun dissecting this crazy show we are all glued to :) about to take off so will miss the update :( but you can be sure that will be the first thing I will be checking when I land!! Yes, what is this PR driving us to???

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Let us agree to disagree, Jahnvi..because I am still not convinced...😊..

for fun, though, humare bache kaa mood kharab kardi usne us dhin..uska kya jaathaa thaa ek haath badaa dee tho 😃. itna pyaraa saa bacha bhi hain woh 😍..


Stranger things have been happening lately, I have even remotely defended Archana recently, Ash is defending Savita and now you...😃..What is PR driving us to..
BTW, you are very wise to be wary of the PAP !! Albeit small, we definitely are a force to reckon with ..😆

Jyoti,

@ Blue - I have no idea what really u said... My hindi is really bad. english is my 1st, and only language :D. Knowing what Humare, Bacha, and pyaraa means still leaves me with no clue as to what the sentence means :).

And pls... dont charge me with such an immoral crime as to DEFEND Savita. 😆 😉. Was only stating a biological fact. Then again... even the CVs may have forgotten that fact. lol.

I cant believe im glued to this site and this show, anxiously waiting for time to arrive for the update... and its not coming fast enough.

Sorry Jahnvi (I hope u don't mind me using ur name), Soham hasn't grown on me yet. But maybe if they show him feeling sorry for the girl(S), after she/they are kidnapped and maybe helping her/them... then we can reassess the situation. 😛.