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Posted: 14 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

he may still love (that doesn't change)


Actually it DOES change 😆 but thats in real life . In TV serials it does not even if ur financially finished or ur child is dead . I know that all LOVE from my heart wud fly OUT of the window the moment a court case attempting to prove me fraudulent wud have been slapped on me either my my husband or mother . So I get highly entertained by the nonsense they show like climbing Temple steps with trumpets blowing indicating PYAAR .



the way I see it there are two things

being "in love" vs. loving someone

being in love is when the rose coloured blinders are on like glue

loving someone is when a deep instinctive bond is formed with someone due to a long-term relationship with them and you accept them inspite of their visible weaknesses or shortcomings. Hate is the other side of strong love, I feel . When someone you have loved deeply disappoints or hurts you badly your defense mechanism is hate. Does not mean that you don't feel strongly or instinctively for the other person but just that you have your shields up so that you do not get hurt or feel betrayed again. I think this is true even in real life.

People come in all shapes and shades. Some people are unyielding and some are not. Manav does not seem the unyielding type as you can see how many types his best intentions have been swayed with regards to Archana or his family. that is why I said what I did above. I was not talking about "being in love" phase of these two.

Again, these characters are always being manipulated by CVs so even I may be wrong.😆


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Posted: 14 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

As an MIL, I hope I keep the same. I don't know if I will as I have not reached that stage yet.



Thats precisely what Varsha says ...As an MIL she may have done the right thing ...standing by and watching son getting jailed , court cases slapped on him , his finances nil and CONSTANT mental stress and insults due to a histrionic sasuraal , must have NOT been easy for a mom . The son was clearly a simpleton who thought all this nuksaan was the best thing to have happened to him . Maybe she thought its high time she took matters in her hands ? While we don't deny it was intrusive , we certainly don't MIND the intrusion , hai na Varsha ?😃

Going to Canada minus Archana was the BEST thing to have happened to Manav in a longgg time . Sometimes we feel like CHEERING the intrusive monster .😉



Entertainment is what it is all about after all, right Mogga?😃
Keep cheering😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
#83
its sad most people tink all is Archanna fault but believe me wen most of us are place in this similar situaution we would've done the same but that how we r judgemental,In 18 years i tink she did her time for her mistake but Manav surprises me had Archanna raise the twins she would've never let them hate Manav,but thats life and believe those same girls that hate"THAT WOMAN" as they refer to her will love her more than anything soon.I can promise everyone that as for Savita her end would be bad
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Posted: 14 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: karsri



Archana giving her kids to manav is not the same as shravani giving her son to savita. Savita went and cried, there was no threat or no force just fake cry from savita. Savita is not scahu's father, has no legal right on sachu. Shravani( who is rich) gave her kid away to a grand mother who is poor, depends on her son's income for living, who does evil things (sravani herself witnessed it).

In archana's case, Manav is the one who took kids away from her. he told her she is dangers and unfit mother. He said she can go to court , he is ready to fight and will prove her as unfit mother. He told her stay away from him and the kids. He didn't let her say any thing and he didn't want to listen to anything she has to say. She could have reminded/questioned about his decision to give soham legally to varsha to keep his mother and nephew happy. The way i saw it is, she decided to stay away because she thinks manav is the great father (don't know why), didn't want her kids grow up with out him, and didn't want her kids get in between fights. She loves manav and she wanted him to be happy so she did what he wanted. Manav himself told his mother that the reason archana didn't fight for the kids because she loves me. And recently he told his father i separated my kids from their mother by saying i will give them better life and raise them well.

TanyaZ - If I am disagreeing with you sorry. But this is what i have seen and read in written updates. In my opinion Savita is the reason ovi, teju are growing up without the their mother. though manav snatched the kids from their mother he decided to take her to canada but Savita told archana, manav wants divorce, he doesn't want u any where near him or kids, never want u to call him... I think she believed savita because just the day before manav himself told her to stay away... When manav fails as a father archana has every right to question him... Because he (with help of his mother ) separated them from her forcefully, and sad i will raise them better.. Knowing archana's nature she will not question him. She thinks everything is god's will...

Also I have read in the written update, just before manav left for canada he requested vandu to live in his house because he has lot of memories attached to that house and he wants to save those memories. Isn't this the same chawl house, which archana saved from destroying it?

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Posted: 14 years ago
#85
It is really hard for me to put myself in Archana's place, because I would never be the type of wife she was. I could not imagine supporting strangers over him and I "claim to trust him," and know he is a good man. I could not be so hypocritical by touching his feet before walking into court against him. I would never be ungrateful to his boss after he put up 70 lakhs to save my Mother's house in my husband's absence.
I would recognise that it takes TWO to bring a child into this world, so I would respect him not wanting OUR child to be near my sister who wronged US BEFORE. I would not be a Mother of two children and give my child to ANY MAN and I am still alive and well, even if he feels I am the WORSE Mother in the world. I would not take him to court so easily for strangers, yet found it so HARD to take him to court for the children I walked around with in my womb for 9mths and cry a river in pain, when they are coming out of me. NO, I cannot and will NEVER put myself in Archana's place, cause I am NOT that type of Woman.

Savita in my opinion is a selfish and evil woman by default. Yet, she was able to recognise the GOOD in her son and know he could NEVER do wrong by the chawl people. Yet Archana, is "Pure," and it did not take her a second, to condemn Manav, with the hypocrisy of using the word "trust," and touching the man's feet whom she 'trusted,' before calling him "Ambitious," aka FRAUD, in court. Once, again I CANNOT and will NEVER put myself in Archana's place, because
I am Not that type of woman.

Savita in my opinion is interfering by default. However, Manav and Archana does not live alone. This a joint family, and what one member does affects EVERYONE!!! There are a few times when I found her interfering VERY necessary. The most profound one, was when Archana gave the money that Manav asked her to give Vandita, to her sister for "Jewelry." I could 100% understand why Savita was livid!!!! Neither sisters lived in the house, but one would face serious consequences (which she did), if the money was not given to her. The other one did not NEED the money. These types of decisions can ruin a family. I tried to see Archana's point of view with her decision, but every time I see where she puts HER family issues first and did not try to balance things, I realise I CANNOT and will NEVER put myself in Archana's place, because, I am Not that type of woman.


Edited by hillydee - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#86
Loved your post Hilly...Suberb explanation and reasoning...
Why I cant relate to Archana character because "I am not like her" I can never fathom doing and taking decisions as she does..
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Posted: 14 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: --Hope--



Hi prasad:

I don't post on the forum actively anymore in fact today is a distinct one off for me in a long time but am a silent reader and I read threads on this forum every few days.

I hope you don't mind me saying this but I read your threads with some amusement😃. Not sure if you know this or if you write your threads the way you do intentionally or unknowingly but you have a unique talent that is very evident in columnists. express an opinion (rightly or wrongly) in a manner that appears controversial and/ or sensational and people respond inadvertently even if they do not agree or like your opinion. please take this as a compliment it was intended as such and consider writing columns on topics (not related to fictional shows of course) as a hobby. you might find it very enjoyable and even lucrative👍🏼

that being said we might disagree on some things

a) shravani As an adult had pre-marital sex and she decided to take responsibility for her actions and keep the child. That is commendable on her part. It should also be noted that she was not promiscous in nature but had a relationship with her fiance.

b) women during pregnancy suffer bouts of emotional insecurity about the future even with a partner so I can understand her fears considering the society she lived in and the fact that her fiance was dead. This makes her acceptance of Manav's proposal (on the perceived advent of his divorce) understandable. At this point I felt Girish was wrong in his acceptance of the arrangement.

c) manav made a mistake in offering. I can understand his intentions were honourable but he did not have the right to make the offer as he was not unattached when he made it.

d) the promise to shravani however vountarily made was always superceeded by the promise made by archana and manav of holy matrimony in front of the sacred agni. In my opinion, backing out on the second promise to preserve the solemnity and integrity of the first was what Manav and Archana should have done. I find both wrong in this. Manav for making the promise. Archana for not showing him the error of his promise being his other half in front of god.

e) Shravani decided to have the child on her own. She did consider abortion later to ensure that the triangle did not continue but was stalled by Manav. Yet, I do not believe that this forced Manav to forsake his marriage and take on Shravani's child's responsibility as his own. He most definitely had the responsibility to support Shravani in making the child's future as an uncle. the child was his dead brother's legacy. Ia gree with you that Manav had responsibility for his influence in keeping the pregnancy going. I just don't agree that that responsibility was one of a father. An uncle, I think.

f) I cannot say if Shravani made a sacrifice as the reason she gave the child away was never really explained by CVs. public sentiment against pooja pihal was so strong and negative that they just wanted to get rid of shravani in the fastest way possible. I think they botched up her departure as a character.

g) I agree with you that "sacchu was not laawaaris ... his grandpa & mom r more rich than even dk". This is why I cannot reconcile with the fact that Shravani gave away a child she so desired and fought societal pressure and ridicule to keep. She is not the martyr type. From what I saw she had her self interest close at heart.

h) Archana has done many things as a wife and mother I can hardly digest forget abide by but where Sachin's upbringing is considered I am not sure how much fault I can place at her feet. Again, I cannot give an opinion more than this here as I have not watched these epis or kept in touch with the plot and everything that happened on the Savita-Archu-Sachin front.

Hope😃


hiii
well thanks a lot for the bold part ... i really appreciated it a lott ... & sorry for so late reply about it ... i hadnt read it before
thanks again

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