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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ok this is what I feel about the court case :

Since it was proved that Manav did NOT forge the signatures and since the case filed against him was seeking to prove that he was a Fraud who HAD done it ...the moment he was cleared of those blames , He could have SUED Archana for defamation if he had gone to divorce court . He could have told the judge that he was the only earning member , 4 children and two dependent parents on him as responsibility and the wife was seeking to destroy his financial reputation saying it was for a cause when

She was not on ANY commitee of the chawl

Nor was she a social worker

She was merely a home maker , a housewife and NOT earning and was destroying HIS earning capacity too ...this shows she had not even given a thought about HOW the kids wud be raised. The kids wud have to be given up to social services .

There was no knowing that she would NOT get such a whim again . She had flatly said NO NOT IN THIS ASPECT when he had tried to convince her to focus on the children .

These points cud be brought up in court .

Regarding Soham :

Manav cud have told court that he expressly FORBADE her to give kid to Varsha . There were many witnesses .They cud testify . Manav cud even testify that for 3 yrs , Archana had been LENDING the kid to keep her sister happy inspite of him objecting . That she was always inclined towards the sister in the matter of the child .

Here Archana's lawyer cud have pointed out that Manav was himself giving child up to Varsha inspite of kidnapping and that Archana STOPPED the adoption .

Upon which a can wud be opened and Manavs lawyer cud ask Archana these questions

1] WHEN and WHY did Manav who objected so much to Soham being Given to Varsha agree to give baby up for ADOPTION ? WHY such a drastic change ?

Answer : Coz Archana bluntly told him she was NOT efficient enough to look after TWO KIDS .

The lawyer cud then point out that Archana gave SAME answer to Manav after twins were born , in the party that Soham was kidnapped .

He cud then move the court to accept Manavs apology for that . YES Manav apologises for thinking of giving up his kid to that woman , and he CHANGED himself and vowed NEVER To let it happen again .

HAS Archana changed however ?

NO . She was still same ...giving up kid to Varsha by defying advice . Not legally , but many many times without the legality .

Whihch parent shud be given consideration ? The one who makes one mistake and changes for the better or the one who simply refuses to change ?

The lawyer would have ALSO pointed out that Archana initially SUPPORTED the idea of ADOPTION .

She decided to stop it as her MOM told her to , at LAST MINUTE . Personally Archana was fine with it . Sulochana shud have been called to the stand to tell how Archana was arguing with her on Varshas behalf . THIS After acertaining from Archana as to WHY she changed her adoption decision .

This too shud be noted by court , the lawyer wud say and reiterate that Manav Changed , Archana did not . She went on lending kid to Varsha . To top it she was publicly admitting her inefficiency and destroying possibilities of a good raising for them .

She placed her faith in chawl members who LIED about Manav forging the signatures ...Shashank . This fact wud be brot up .

The fact that Archana supported perjury once cud be brot up coz Manav KNEW that Dharmesh was legally married to Madhuri .

Manav's financial condition and accounts cud be checked . WHERE had all his money gone when the children needed it ? To Archana's MOTHER . Of course , by Manav's will too . The court could have reprimanded Manav sharply for listening to his wife and Manavs lawyer cud have asked for at least HALF of the money back saying he was seeking sole custody as he was afraid she wud give children up AGAIN as she showed NO CHANGE .

I do think he had a pretty good chance of winning . Its a pity they did NOT show it , the TRPS wud be very high . I feel that since Archana won that stupid chawl case [ though for the LIFE of me I cannot fathom WHAT service she did to people living there by INSISTING that the construction shud grow more old and more faulty} It would have been fair to show that Manav won this CUSTODY CASE .

And Archana wid have been put in a BETTER LIGHT as she at least CONTESTED for the kids .

This criticism that WE r doing of her wud have dwindled . Right now the sympathy to OVI TEJU is SO MUCH in viewers like me that for Archana only GUSSA comes up . Especially when we see her showering love on Purvi . That deed in itself is noble ...what happened to her daughters ...given up without a mom expressing love for them was wrong . She risked her marraige for Chawl people by fighting Manav and did not bother to fight him for children as she 'LOVED" him ? It simply makes no sense ...its selective and controversial .










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Posted: 14 years ago
#42
Kools Manav had a clear cut open and shut case as far as single and sole custody of kids...and further more ground for divorce...
Archana was negligent parent...Kids were unsafe with her...
Defamation of Manav's character by calling him ambitious..The guy try to provide the best the chawl walas by giving 20+ lakhs rs and a flat...What is wrong in wanting and giving best for the wife & family???
Archana failed him in court and when it came to Soham...
No judge in right mind would give Archana a break...I am pro mother getting the custody in most cases...But in ArMan's case the last two events completely took those rights away from Archana..she single handedly destroyed not only her marriage but their family too...Shame she cared for Karanjkars and faltoo chawlwalas more than her husband and kids...Manav was not doing anything illegal...He was doing the right thing but still got lablelled "Proofs are against you": what a shame..
ADD-EDIT: Archana is not married to Savita...SHe is married to Manav...Manav as a father has nothing to do with Savita...He could raise his kids all by himself w/o Savita's influence if judge gives such verdicct...Not to mix the issue by bringing up Savita...And blame Savita for their marriage to end...No one can break 2 people or their marriage up if they were strong...She Archana let this happen...No sense blaming Savita..
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think she too had a good chance of winning because all she had to do was to bring Shravani and sachin to testify and tell the judge what savita did , everything ...the lies and giving emotional blackmail to the child ..The judge would also have considered how well Archana took care of Sachin , Manav's nephew when she was not under any obligation to do so while Sachin's own grandmother was hurting him and his real mother ...
In such cases the main concern of a judge is about the well being of the child and I think any judge would not have considered Savita a good parent ( because the child would be with savita when Manav would be away at work and this is what the judge would see...about the practical way of who is taking care of the child on daily basis ) ...
Also Savita's age would have been considered ..
Also I don't think Archana would have been in that much trouble financially because had she gone through the proper channel then it would have been manav who would have to pay for Child support for all the children and child support is based on the standard of living of the father and not the mother ...
Not just child support , Manav would have been told to even pay spousal support ...as his father would have given witness how he ran away from home once when Archana had told him that she wanted to work ...also because of taking care of sachin ( Manav's nephew ) Archana was busy at home ...So with the child support and spousal support , Archu would have been pretty well off...
About Soham's case , the whole matter is very subjective and I think the Judge would have seen that the final outcome was that Manav was giving up the child forever , legal adoption ...satish would verify that when he took the decision it was his own decision and he did not even consult his wife then ...he just said yes .
So basing on this and also because of wha t savita had done and how Archana had shown that she was a good person ( in case of her taking care of sachu ) I think she had a very strong case ...
The doctor who gave varsha the all clear certificate and had declared her mentally fit and fine would have definitely got in trouble ...
But its Ok if we have a difference of opinion here ...
Now that I have said all this hypothetical stuff... I will say again that I am glad that manav has the girls as he is a great daddy and the girls are the light of his life ..He keeps seeing Archana in them ...
Archu too is doing well , she was rescued by Purvi ... she has a lovely daughter in Purvi and I hope Purvi takes very good care of her ..Just like Manav is shown spoiling Savita with his money and taking care of her , I want to see Purvi also taking care of her mother and keeping her like a queen ...
If a son can do it, so can a daughter ...
I wan tboth Manav and Archana now to be happy in their own homes and in their own lives and only and only if Manav desperately wants to be back with Archana then only I want her to go back to him othertwise not ...
It's a very very big thing to take one year old babies away from their mothers forever ...only if the woman is declared dangerous and a terrible mother , maybe a drug addict or something like that ...this would happen ...In Archana's case , Manav's own sister and her father , his friends ( Ashna and DK and Satish ) would have testified that she is a wonderful person and they love her a lot ...
Just because she handed Soham to Varsha in the party for a few hours ( after she was declared mentally fit ) , I don't think that would be the reason for a judge to give custody to Manav .
Gosh , I feel like a lawyer ...Bas , enough ...no more from my side ...😆
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44
Varsha Manav got blamed unfairly for simply doing his job .

Its Archana who did not do HER job ...looking out for the best for HER kids .

I wonder WHAT she would have prayed for in AshtVinayak Temple if he had been proved fraudulent due to Shashank's lies . I put my husband in Now u get him out ? Dunno . Its odd to my ears and brain both .

I don't buy the I did this for Manav argument . [ The Giving up the kids I mean } She ALWAYS FIRST destroys Manav , then vys for his emotional control by going to ANY lengths . She first believed Ajit ;s photos and destroyed her marraige by not giving him a chance and then in 3 month stay went to ANY lengths to get his heart back .

Now she first destroyed his reputation and Soham and then tried to win him back at the cost of giving up her other kids . In a sense she USED the kids to try to regain his emotional control [ and DID succeed as Manav did send her the ticket}

I don't like that . But since we r discussing story from another angle I keep quiet today .






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Posted: 14 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Anything goes in PR these days ...

Manav said that Arjun joined the business 2 years ago , that means he was 17 when he joined the business ..That means he has not completed his education ...Now how can that be .a person like DK not allowing his only son to finish his education ?

Tanyaz - In real life there are people like arjun, (at age of 20) who is in the family business and doing well. Both arjun's parents are very smart in doing business... he got their smartness and i am sure he got training from Manav and DK both... I personally know some kids like Arjun. They started travelling with their father on business trips... They start doing it in summer breaks...
These days there are quiet a few girls like purvi. India has changed so much. Many girls are doing really well. Most of the have family support... Since it is a show they exaggerate it little bit more


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Varsha Manav got blamed unfairly for simply doing his job .


Its Archana who did not do HER job ...looking out for the best for HER kids .

I wonder WHAT she would have prayed for in AshtVinayak Temple if he had been proved fraudulent due to Shashank's lies . I put my husband in Now u get him out ? Dunno . Its odd to my ears and brain both .

I don't buy the I did this for Manav argument . [ The Giving up the kids I mean } She ALWAYS FIRST destroys Manav , then vys for his emotional control by going to ANY lengths . She first believed Ajit ;s photos and destroyed her marraige by not giving him a chance and then in 3 month stay went to ANY lengths to get his heart back .

Now she first destroyed his reputation and Soham and then tried to win him back at the cost of giving up her other kids . In a sense she USED the kids to try to regain his emotional control [ and DID succeed as Manav did send her the ticket}

I don't like that . But since we r discussing story from another angle I keep quiet today .

How long have I been saying this about Archana character???? For last almost 2 yrs...
"Passive Agressive Behavior"
I took Archana's side and wrote abt Manav when he volunteered himself to Shrav...Than once they started destroying other people's lives with their stupid mahanta that was the day I saw the truth and been writing abt it...I am not attached to any character...Nor do I look for emotional affair between two while comittment to someone else...Pretending to be mahan but betraying someone whle doing so...I dont care for two faced hypocritical people...I like up and up things...
I do blame Manav for pacifying Archana and Karanjkar's control somehow...He let her controll him and now he has taken control of his life he has made much better decisions...I am not saying dont listen to your wife...Control her...But listen to each other and make sound decisions...One does not destroy their family for their Mayka or random people...Sorry...
Manav and his urge to fit into Karanjkar family and being the damaad they wanted him to be...His constant efforts at meeting-matching upto Karanjkar yard stick of damaad...No matter what he did he finally was still treated like crap by Sulo...All his efforts went in vein...Why could he not be happy and confident in who he was and what he did for his Deshmukh family? Why did he have to be SUlo's Beta...In this he has hurt his own image and respect...😳
We are not talking only abt one crore RS. which Manav has spent on Karanjkars during his 6 yrs marriage to Archu, but lost a brother, unborn child and Soham...Plus defamation of his character in court...Come on give me a break yaar...How cruel can one be and claim they love him..
Love should not hurt this way...If it is destroying than it is not love but it is TOXANTS IMHO.
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: karsri

You know , not just Arjun's parents , even Purvi's parents were really smart ..Because what we know is that they both were from the orphanage and did well for themselves ..They were in a nice car when that horrible accident happened , they had got married and had a daughter so clearly they were smart and had the fighting spirit ... what we can see in Purvi ...

So I guess both Arjun and Purvi are the young achievers , of course as you say ...with some axaggeration 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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This whole Manav and Archana situation that I explained above is a very very hypothetical situation because they both wanted to live with each other and despite of their differences, Manav send her the tickets and Archana wanted to come to Canada with him so much...Only misunderstandinds and manipulations ( From Savita ) messed it up ...In real life , such misunderstanding would have been clear when two people love each other so much ..But this is not real life , just an Ekta kapoor fictional show ...so please do not think that I wanted Manav and Archana to end up in court ...of course not ...
I hope all the misunderstandings get cleared in the end ...Savita's truth comes out and Manav and Archana live happily ever after ...
Despite of all their mistakes , I just can't stop loving both of them 😆
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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btw I say this much ...

Spousal support she wud NOT have got even a penny as it wud be proved in a shot that she took his lifes savings from him ...almost a crore

Infact he cud have demanded AT LEAST half the money back as he was seeking sole custody of kids and they NEEDED that money besides his salary

Child support he wud NOT give as He was seeking SOLE custody

HALF of 70 lacs ...35 lacs wud be considered MORE THAN ENUF for a woman in 6 yr marraige

Savita thing : Savita cud have easily told court that she told the child the TRUTH . As She did NOT believe LIES benefit a child .Shravni indeed was the real mother .

And if Archana tried to prove her lies , She wud have openned a can of worms ...as she had used Savita extensively for babysitting as she needed time to focus on never ending maika prroblems . Remember she was HOMEMAKER not working wife . She wid have a hard time telling court WHY she required Savitas services so much if Savita was that BAD . Same question cud be asked Shravani...if Savita was so bad WHY she left her child with her and went off ?

Both Archana and Shravni wud have stuttered a LOT in court .


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Divorce or Custody case only is valid in court between Husband and WIfe...Not MIL Savita and DIL Archu
Even if Hypothically speaking Judge would rule Savita being bad Grandmother, Give sole custody of kids to Manav on him making sure Grand mother's influence was no where close by...Manav to raise kids himself and not having Savita around...Manav would have to take raising kids as his priority being single father over being a son to Savita...He still could keep those relationships seperate and maintain them well..
Archana can't blame Savita for her mistake and hide behind calling it "Misunderstandings"...Manav is hurt because of the court case and loss of Soham...Marriage broke because of that...Where was Archu's love when Manav needed her to believe and support him? Where was her love, trust, belief and support for Manav when he warned her numerous times not to let Varsha come close to SOham???
Savita did the right thing by not giving tickets to Archu...She saw her son and grand kids safety and happiness...Any judge would see why a mother would do that...Savita showed more concern for her son and grandkids than Archana as a mother...She looked out for and protected her son and his children's best interest...No one can deny that...👏
Judges may be judges in court but they also are human being who can see the truth...
Reality: Child custody suit between Archu & Manav and not Savita - Archu...
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago

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