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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

ovi and Teju were shown attending some university


The stupidity of Arjun and Purvi's age is true . I guess one can assume that Arjun was a super brilliant high IQ child who graduated early , joined his rich dad for work experience by CHOICE and is taking a business degree ONLINE or sumthing

But Purvi one cannot even assume that . India is SO less facility filled as against Canada , and their circumsatnces ..travelling by bus etc do not prove this . Purvi must have gone to some SSC school as Archana ALONE earns for the upkeep of 3 and she is simply a matriculate with a diploma of one year , her job cannot fetch a high salary . If they show that she IS taking a degree online I wud like it . But that wud be with HER salary money .

It kind of points to Purvi's salary being NEEDED for the house ...as against Arjun opting to join Dad early BY CHOICE

Purvi's FD money was DEFO needed

Thanks Kools.
Determining the correct age of characters, or having them doing correct activities for their age, has always been badly dealt with in PR.
According to Ekta, pre this leap, Archana and Manav are supposed to be in their 40's. If we calculate how old they were when the show started, how many leaps there were and the length of these leaps, as well as how long they were married, they are supposed to be in their 50's.
Arjun and the twins are 19 years old. Arjun is shown working with his father in a high management level position, making very major decisions (e.g. which workers should be fired). In the real world, if a 19 year old son of a big business man works for his father, he wouldn't be in such a high level position. However, this is PR where anything goes, so I'm not surprised. This is yet another example of why I no longer watch the show. There are too many inconsistencies and situations that are truly unbelievable, even for a fictional show!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Can someone give me the EXACT verdict of the court case that Archana did on Manav ?


I will then give my POV about Would Archana have won the legal battle for her kids . But I want the EXACT verdict .

Manav's company wanted to demolish the Chawl and put up a building there and Archana and rest of the Chawl people were stopping them to do so ...
Manav had taken signatures fro mthe chawl people which they had said were forged by Manav .Later all the Chawl people and one of them who was Manav's friend took that back as they did not wanted Manav personally to get in trouble ( or else he could have been jailed for forgery ) but it was ruled that as the majority of Chawl resident did not wish to move , the Chawl would not be demolished and no building would be made there ..
At least that is what I understand was said of the verdict ..Dharmesh and Ajit were disappointed that Manav did not go to jail and were angry with Shanshank ( Manav's friend who betrayed them ) but they were happy that manav's company lost the case ...
I am not talking here who was right or who was wrong ...just telling you what the verdict was ...
And one more time I would say that Archu did right by giving up her girls because she could have not given them the lifestyle that they have right now ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hope,
I love your post. Very mature and balanced. I agree with your thoughts on all the characters mentioned. Happy New Year to you and your loved ones.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: karsri

I agree with you .She did this for Manav .She felt that she had hurt him ( unintentionaly ) because of what happened with Soham and did not wish to hurt him again by showing that she did not trust him ..
I am not blaming her for giving the children to Manav at that point her own confidence level as a mother was at a very low , she was constantly told that she had killed her son , at one point she was even believing it ...
I just wish she had tried to ask for photos or called to find out how they were doing ..That is her fault I think and I am disappointed that she did not do that ...
So now if the girls show her a cold shoulder ,I will not blame them ..She put Manav before her children ...now she has to face the consequences of that action ...
You don't have to say sorry for disagreeing , we disagree on a lot of things about Manav ..I am also put off with him as a husband ( particularly in believing that Archu took money instead of kids ) but I stil lthink that he is a very good man .I actually think that both Manav and Archana are not perfect and they both made mistakes by trusting others and not each other ..
I hope one day they will actually say this ...
Like you , I also believe that the main reason why they are seperate is because of the manipulations done by Savita ...though still blame them for giving her this chance .
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suan

Hope,

I love your post. Very mature and balanced. I agree with your thoughts on all the characters mentioned. Happy New Year to you and your loved ones.😊



Thank you Sharon.

A happy new year to you and your family too😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suan

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Arjun and the twins are 19 years old. Arjun is shown working with his father in a high management level position, making very major decisions (e.g. which workers should be fired). In the real world, if a 19 year old son of a big business man works for his father, he wouldn't be in such a high level position. However, this is PR where anything goes, so I'm not surprised. This is yet another example of why I no longer watch the show. There are too many inconsistencies and situations that are truly unbelievable, even for a fictional show!

Anything goes in PR these days ...
Manav said that Arjun joined the business 2 years ago , that means he was 17 when he joined the business ..That means he has not completed his education ...Now how can that be .a person like DK not allowing his only son to finish his education ?
It is a waste of time even thinking about this whole age factor ...they just do what they want ..They want to show Arjun and Purvi's love story at work and that is the only reason why they are working and not studying ..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Anything foes in PR these days ...

Manavsaid that Arjun joined the business 2 years ago , thame means he was 17 when he joined the business ..That means he has not completed his education ...Now how can that be .a person like DK not allowing his only son to finish his education ?
It is a waste of time even thinking about this whole age factor ...they just do what they want ..They want to show Arjun and Purvi's love story at work and that is the only reason why they are working and not studying ..

That's so true Tanya, and this could be one of the reasons why the trps's are low. People need to be able to relate to a show, in order to become attached to it to the level where they will want to watch it every day.
This way the trp's will rise and the show will do well. If, however, the viewer has to constantly rack his brain in order to follow a show, eventually that person will stop watching the show, causing trp's to fall.
I can't understand why Ekta hasn't grasped this concept yet. Seems she's such a stubborn person that she will always do whatever she wants, regardless of the outcome.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sharon , very soon two love stories will be running parallel in the same office .One more mature love story ( intense love hidden under the mask of hate ) that of Manav and Archana and a young love story of the opposites attract case ( of Purvi and Arjun ) ..
The office will become romance ka adda ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Hope--


that being said we might disagree on some things

a) shravani As an adult had pre-marital sex and she decided to take responsibility for her actions and keep the child. That is commendable on her part. It should also be noted that she was not promiscous in nature but had a relationship with her fiance.
Agree

b) women during pregnancy suffer bouts of emotional insecurity about the future even with a partner so I can understand her fears considering the society she lived in and the fact that her fiance was dead. This makes her acceptance of Manav's proposal (on the perceived advent of his divorce) understandable. At this point I felt Girish was wrong in his acceptance of the arrangement.
I said it than and I agree with you now...FIrst of all Girish should have never made the statement "who will marry a pregnant unmarried daughter" which lead Manav to offer...Both were totally wrong...Girish could have supported his daughter and her decision to have a child or not..He was able financially and physically...I would have loved to see Shravni strong and independent single mother..

c) manav made a mistake in offering. I can understand his intentions were honourable but he did not have the right to make the offer as he was not unattached when he made it.
Right on sistah...Manav was not available to offer himself to Shravni...Whether his divorce to happen in 3 mo or not...He still was married to Archu...I blame him completely for making that grave mistake which started the downfall of PR IMHO..

d) the promise to shravani however vountarily made was always superceeded by the promise made by archana and manav of holy matrimony in front of the sacred agni. In my opinion, backing out on the second promise to preserve the solemnity and integrity of the first was what Manav and Archana should have done. I find both wrong in this. Manav for making the promise. Archana for not showing him the error of his promise being his other half in front of god.
Not only were ArMan wrong in that decision but they kept the charade going pretending to keep the promise and pacifying while carrying on their eye contact and goo goo eyes in front of Shrav and Jaywant...ArMan carried on their emotional-mental affair in front of all with besharmi IMHO...Both lead these people and other family members on..Members who have read me I have always kept this stand...I have blamed Manav, Archana both in all the mistakes they have made...

e) Shravani decided to have the child on her own. She did consider abortion later to ensure that the triangle did not continue but was stalled by Manav. Yet, I do not believe that this forced Manav to forsake his marriage and take on Shravani's child's responsibility as his own. He most definitely had the responsibility to support Shravani in making the child's future as an uncle. the child was his dead brother's legacy. Ia gree with you that Manav had responsibility for his influence in keeping the pregnancy going. I just don't agree that that responsibility was one of a father. An uncle, I think.
Agree...Manav did not have to be the daddy to Sachu...He and Archana could have taken and fulfilled Sachu's responsibility as kaka-Kaki...Uncle-Aunt...No need to break his marriage with Archana to give Sachu a father's name by marrying Shrav...Shtav never came between ArMan...It was Manav who put her there...But no one hated Manav for that...it was Shravni or Pooja Pihal took the brunt of all the hate for being in the middle...She tried to get out of this few times but Archana kept promisitng her that ArMan were over...But she said she will always have and will be in Manav's heart...Shrav-Manav rishta would be Samjauteka rishta which Shravni was to have...Hmmm

f) I cannot say if Shravani made a sacrifice as the reason she gave the child away was never really explained by CVs. public sentiment against pooja pihal was so strong and negative that they just wanted to get rid of shravani in the fastest way possible. I think they botched up her departure as a character.
Savita had lost so much that she manipulated Shrav into giving Sachu up to Deshmukhs with her emotional atyachar...I hated what Savita did to shrav...Than expecting Archana to take care of him is unreasonable...Viewers hated Shrav-Pooja Pihal because she was put into berween ArMan by Manav himself and not Shrav forced herself on him...CVs screwed up...Even here yet again I blame Girish for playing very passive fatherly role...He had money...He could have bought all the support system for her daughter and grand child..

g) I agree with you that "sacchu was not laawaaris ... his grandpa & mom r more rich than even dk". This is why I cannot reconcile with the fact that Shravani gave away a child she so desired and fought societal pressure and ridicule to keep. She is not the martyr type. From what I saw she had her self interest close at heart.
Heck Sachu was not Lawaris at all...He had mother, 2 grand fathers, grand mother and uncle-aunt...Way more money than needed to take care of Sachu and provide for the whole darn Deshmukh family...But Manav did not want to take from Girish...His pride was in the way...Fake ego I must say...I so wish Shrav had moved in with her father Girish, raised Sachin as a single mother with support of her father...They had money to provide all that...Agree Shrav was not the Martyr type at all...At the same time deshmukhs can be part of the extended family as they were LT. Sachin's family...A win win situation for both families..But NO CVs had to create this mess and Manav had to be the one to volunteer himself...He lead 2 women on for a looong time...One emotionally and the other verbally..

h) Archana has done many things as a wife and mother I can hardly digest forget abide by but where Sachin's upbringing is considered I am not sure how much fault I can place at her feet. Again, I cannot give an opinion more than this here as I have not watched these epis or kept in touch with the plot and everything that happened on the Savita-Archu-Sachin front.
Hope😃

As far as Sachin's bringing up no one can fault her but once she did take him as her cub-son, she does owe him as much as she owes any of her other children...Its the Q of principals and moral-ethics...Besides for the longest time after ArMan remarried neither even taook care of Sachin, it was Savita who took care of Sachu...Once ArMan moved back into Deshmukhs Archu was a mother like to Sachu...
In short For a lil while Sachu was the luckiest child as he got most love and affection from Archana...More than I can say for Soham, and the Twin girls who were her own flash and blood...As a mother she surely has failed...


Hi Hopester...
Long time no see...So happy to read your posts...Well written...Hope all is well with you and the boys...Happy Holidays and a New Year...Take care dear...🤗
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Arjun was 2 yrs old when twins were born...Purvi is a yr or 18 months young to twins as twins bday was celebrated b4 ArMan's seperation due to kidnapping of Soham..
So if Purvi is 19, twins should be 20+ and Arjun should be 22...and Soham should be 25 -26 and Sachin abt 30 😃

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