Shaan has a right to be upset - Page 5

somone999:

If I wanted to hear Shankar only, I would listen to a concert or a music programme by him and I would enjoy it, I am sure.

It is not against the rules, but I think it was clear that we weren't expecting the "judges" to come down and sing so much. It has been billed as a contest among the winners of other reality shows, with "mentors"...going down to do the job yourself is hardly mentoring.
And some of these poor contestants we have hardly heard at all...just there to warm the seats or something.

When the are picking on sur, and "josh", and what nots, jumping in to defend somebody who did NOT KNOW the song at all is not what it should be about.

Has any judge been awarded less than a 10 on any performance, however good or bad?
So then, to repeat myself, I should say lets leave the contestants to do the backing chorus, all the judges to sing all the rounds, and have a six-way tie!

I would have been as angry as Shaan, but expressed it differently, perhaps...

Originally posted by: bebe nanno

somone999:

If I wanted to hear Shankar only, I would listen to a concert or a music programme by him and I would enjoy it, I am sure.

It is not against the rules, but I think it was clear that we weren't expecting the "judges" to come down and sing so much. It has been billed as a contest among the winners of other reality shows, with "mentors"...going down to do the job yourself is hardly mentoring.
And some of these poor contestants we have hardly heard at all...just there to warm the seats or something.

When the are picking on sur, and "josh", and what nots, jumping in to defend somebody who did NOT KNOW the song at all is not what it should be about.

Has any judge been awarded less than a 10 on any performance, however good or bad?
So then, to repeat myself, I should say lets leave the contestants to do the backing chorus, all the judges to sing all the rounds, and have a six-way tie!

I would have been as angry as Shaan, but expressed it differently, perhaps...

i agree with you, and i think, thats not the fault of shankar that the MKMM incharge have not deviced a set of rule on the amount of time a judge can come.. if they have not set a rule and have allowed the captains to come, thats their fault, not the fault of the captain..
no one has stopped shaan from coming two times, three times.. his team is the strongest, he has singers to back him up, if shankar felt like to come two times, he did that.. he can do that for his team. In a cricket match, the captain can do anything he wants, he can allow himself to come and bowl, or ask his player to come.. its totally up to him and the way he sees the success of him team. this act should not be blown up out of its proportions. "Everything is fair in love and war" and shankar was definitely within the rule book.. so i don't agree with you to blame shankar here.

On the second point, HR supports his team all the time, he shouts, he screams, he tries to manipulate the audience... even Shaan does that too... i think thats the right of the captain, he can defend his team members.. so what if shankar supported his team members?.. he just gave his opinion on the performance..

So, basically i believe that the MKMM team should have devised appropriate rules. The captains hardly use their chupa rustams - just for the reason that they are not stage-trained or popular, so i think the MKMM team should create a rule, that contestants should not be repeated twice in one match, whether its a captain or a member, with the exception of the medley part.

I hope my points are clear. Thanks for sharing your views.

very unfair. judges are so partial to Shaan. I dont expect from shreya to give 9 Rahul. Mika and other judges may be do this because they are jelous. we love Shankarji but in this match we feel he and his team is a cheater.Shaan is Right.

Of course Shaan reacts more but it is for judges only. because they support Shankars cheating. even tnot only they support it but hey give Rahul full points also . this is too reduculous. Shaan has the Best team and he is the Winner for Us. sangeet ka mahamukabla he ye not a stage where you only perform.

Originally posted by: nithyak

Haha! if the rules had been properly framed, what happened last night could'nt have taken place ...they were not made for exactly this to happen . 😊 😆 😆

i agree with you.. i think things have been deliberately made Ambiguous and vague.. so that such 'drama' can take place.. the MKMM team is to blamed definitely..

Somone & nithyak:

i agree that rules are kept deliberately vague.

I live in a part of the world with no direct access to indian tv, so I watch this on the internet, and I have to admit I have seen very little of the fights & arguments & introductions...just skip from song to song; and then when the score flashes up.

Originally posted by: PIPC

Ok..my two cents here...
Shaan was totally justified in making an issue out of it.
Let me just jot down my reasons. You have the right to disagree with me.But, I have the right to express my opinion too.

I have always found Shaan as a very upright, just and a very sensible person. He always came across a very calm and collected person who has his heart and head in the right places.

Shaan always supports what is just. The first verbal disagreement that took place between Shaan and Mr know-it-all Mika Singh was when Shaan supported SHANKAR in the first episode itself. Shaan could have kept quiet like other diplomatic judges and he had nothing to lose. He chose to speak what he felt instead. I started admiring his courage from then on..

Shaan gives equal chance to all his team members to come forward and showcase their talent. He, too could have used the loopholes of the rules of the show and made things totally in his favor. He and Anwesha together could have rocked the show and won hands down. Instead, he grooms each and every contestant, gives equal weightage to them in that faulty format and makes sure that the contestants get noticed.

Shankar is a very talented musician. But, most of the people don't approve of the way he is exploiting the faulty rules of the show to get victory. He only chooses Rahul Vaidya to represent his team. These contestants were very lucky as they were chosen in Shankar's team. If Shankar gave them the chance to sing, found out their faults. groomed their talent and taught them about the nuances of music, they would have cherished and treasured it lifelong.

Shankar's rockstars most certainly wouldn't consider MKMM as a milestone in their musical journey in the present circumstances. Neeti simply comes and sits there as a pretty doll. I can't even remember the name of Shankar's chhupa rustam because he came on stage only twice.
I would like to mention that Sharib was a good singer in the Challenge 2005 days. But, didn't get get to hear him after that. Looks like his singing skills have gone downhill ever since. The dedication, the passion that he had for music got replaced by arrogance, conceit and a 'don't care' attitude.
Sharib alone would have won the competition if it was 'arrogance ka maha muqqabla'. But, he has company. Rahul is giving him a tough competition and it is hard to decide as to who is outdoing whom in terms of arrogance.

In the medley round Shankar and all his singers sing. But, being a stupendous singer that Shankar is, he just overpowers the other team members and 95% of credit for his awesome medley rounds goes to him alone and the rest 5% goes to Mr Vaidya.

Shankar is an asset to the Indian music industry and he has nothing to prove there on the MKMM stage. He should help to bring out the best in his singers, and give them equal chance to prove their mettle on the stage. Shankar as a musician is far more beyond this stage and by competing against the contestants he is defeating the purpose of this competition.

Now, coming to the Neeti forgetting lyrics episode, I fully agree with Shaan that it was 'not being prepared for the song' .
If you watch the episode carefully, Rahul sang the first half of the song and then Neeti took over. She seemed to be very uncomfortable from the beginning and after finishing a single line all by herself, she gestured Rahul with her hand to join her which he did but he stopped in between. Neeti carried on for some more seconds and then totally gave up. Rahul tried to prompt her after a pause and somehow finished the song.

It was fine till then. When Shankar tried to cover up the blunder with a very trite 'presence of mind' phrase and all the judges seemed to agree, Shaan got upset and started expressing disagreement. He was totally right in saying that Shankar need not justify this as he was already leading.
Shaan was totally right about that. Shankar totally got the point and realised that because he supported a wrong thing, shaan was upset. Contd in next post...

. 'Abhi naa jao chhodkar' has both Rafi saab and Lata didi lending their voice equally and that's what makes it a musical treat.

Good post. 😊

Sung by Rafi saab and Asha Tai. 😳